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Old 09-04-2013, 05:51 AM   #121
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Indulge me for a moment if you wheel, look out there, to the future, no not robot maids that's the Jetson's but I dunno, lets say 6 months or so from now, what do you see? Why there's a whole bunch of PPVs, and what's that, Wrestlemania?????? Gee whizz skipper wouldn't that be a wonderful memorable and defining moment if he were to finally get his revenge on the 'grandest stage of them all' after finally overcoming the odds? I mean it's like they planned it from the start, to have him chase the title and build him up as a legit main eventer when he finally wins rather than hot shotting the title on him after a couple of months. I know that's unprecedented, nobody has ever had a program that ran more than 4 weeks in the history of our sport, but gosh darn it I want to dream big.
Now we both know that wont happen. Cena wil return at Royal Rumble and win, he will then proceed to challenge Orton for the title in the main event. Now I love D Bryan, he's my favourite wrestler and I've been following his career for years and years, but this feud is NOT setting up a WM main event, and D Bryan will not headline (unfortunately, in my opinion :/)
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Old 09-04-2013, 06:06 AM   #122
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Not like Cena would want a crack at the Undertaker or anything, or Brock, matches that might not be available next year.
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Old 09-04-2013, 06:52 AM   #123
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Either way, that would be the main event.
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Old 09-04-2013, 07:35 AM   #124
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As they like to point out themselves there is more than one main event match at 'mania.
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Old 09-04-2013, 07:39 AM   #125
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I've been following John Cena's career for years and years and I believe he should headline Wrestlemania.
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Old 09-04-2013, 07:50 AM   #126
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Ryback would have done WAY better
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Old 09-04-2013, 08:41 AM   #127
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As they like to point out themselves there is more than one main event match at 'mania.
The main event will always be the last match on a lot of people's opinions.
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Old 09-04-2013, 04:13 PM   #128
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The whole "multiple main event" thing is just to make the card sound like a bigger deal. Really, if you look at a match and say "There's no WAY it's going on last", then "main event" is just a meaningless term.

Hell, Daniel Bryan and Sheamus opened WrestleMania 28 with an 18 second match that was promoted going in as one of the main events. That's how much meaning the term has in WWE's world.
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Old 09-04-2013, 04:20 PM   #129
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If they do build this all up to Bryan vs Orton for the title at WrestleMania though, I can kinda see the possibility of it actually headlining. If they stretch it out that long and let it keep building somehow (which I have my doubts they can/will) then it would have some massive anticipation.
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Old 09-04-2013, 04:27 PM   #130
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If they do build this all up to Bryan vs Orton for the title at WrestleMania though, I can kinda see the possibility of it actually headlining. If they stretch it out that long and let it keep building somehow (which I have my doubts they can/will) then it would have some massive anticipation.
I too have my doubts about this, but if they do manage to keep it building, I still feel like they'll have to have someone else (Cody maybe?) feud with Orton for the title around the Rumble. Then between January and WM have Bryan feud with HHH/Shield/Corp2.0 over the right to face Orton at WM.
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Old 09-04-2013, 04:40 PM   #131
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If they do build this all up to Bryan vs Orton for the title at WrestleMania though, I can kinda see the possibility of it actually headlining. If they stretch it out that long and let it keep building somehow (which I have my doubts they can/will) then it would have some massive anticipation.
I don't see this feud going passed the Royal Rumble, I think Cena will probably be the one to dethrone Orton whenever he comes back from his injury, and Bryan will probably win the Rumble, and we get Bryan-Cena II at WrestleMania where Bryan finally gets his moment.
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Old 09-04-2013, 07:56 PM   #132
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Am I the only one who doesn't really see Orton as a heel to headline WrestleMania? I don't know what it is about him -- maybe it's because he's been away from the title so long. He'll no doubt do something important, but I just can't see Orton vs. Cena, Orton vs. Punk or Orton vs. Bryan closing WrestleMania.
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Old 09-08-2013, 11:21 AM   #133
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Old 09-08-2013, 11:26 AM   #134
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It's all a matter of opinion, if you disagree with mine, that's fair enough! Considering there's been a number of articles talking about what I've been talking about, I'm clearly not the only one whose mind it has crossed! Having said that, I can see your point too however, it's called a debate!
Let's just see where things go, one show at a time before jumping to any definitive conclusions here. Sound good to you?
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Old 09-08-2013, 02:24 PM   #135
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Sounds good to me! Fingers crossed tomorrow doesn't end with Bryan down on the mat!
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Old 09-08-2013, 03:42 PM   #136
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I predict, to change things up, Raw ends with Bryan down on the mat at the hands of Stephanie.
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Old 09-08-2013, 03:43 PM   #137
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Ryback may have been the biggest "dropped ball" in WWE history. They had to actually put effort into fucking up with him.
Fans wanted nothing to do with him except chanting feed me more. Goldberg chants killed him.
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Old 09-08-2013, 03:50 PM   #138
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Fans wanted nothing to do with him except chanting feed me more. Goldberg chants killed him.
Considering how most folks get NO chants...or reaction... AT ALL.
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Old 09-08-2013, 05:31 PM   #139
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Fans wanted nothing to do with him except chanting feed me more. Goldberg chants killed him.


Listen to that crowd wanting nothing to do with Ryback.
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Old 09-08-2013, 05:34 PM   #140
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One crowd.
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Listen to those two crowds wanting nothing to do with Ryback.
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Considering how most folks get NO chants...or reaction... AT ALL.
Also, this. "People ONLY chanted his catchphrase", even if you do ignore the fact that he was one of the VERY few guys actually getting a reaction at all, is a ridiculous attempt to find ways to deny how over the guy was.
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Old 09-08-2013, 05:46 PM   #143
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Old 09-08-2013, 10:52 PM   #144
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Fan do you think that has more to do with Ryback being over, or people just wanting to see Punk get killed?

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i think ryback was massively over. but i also don't believe that he has the tools to handle a sustained push at the top. at least not now.
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Old 09-09-2013, 12:00 AM   #146
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Fan do you think that has more to do with Ryback being over, people just wanting to see Punk get killed?
Well considering Punk was being praised for getting cheered during the Undertaker feud because he was "such a good heel", I'd say you need to pick one reaction or the other to signify "it's all Punk, fuck the other guy". Plus, I don't think anyone could have just come in and won matches and then face off with Punk anf had the crowd going crazy. It had to be someone who came off as the "next big thing" in wrestling. Which I think Ryback was. Until they jobbed him out to the Shield and Mark Henry, turned him a heel and then jobbed him to Cena.
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Old 09-09-2013, 02:20 AM   #148
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I just thought of this: how different would WWE be right now if Ryback hadn't messed up lifting Tensai on that Raw.
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Old 09-09-2013, 02:23 AM   #149
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They're over. WWE is finally realizing that.
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Crowd pops for them. They never don't say "SO" when they say Us.
This very thread...

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Fans wanted nothing to do with him except chanting feed me more.
... Wait, what?
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Old 09-09-2013, 02:59 AM   #150
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Ryback sucks. Deal with it.
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Old 09-09-2013, 03:02 AM   #151
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Good response to what I posted. I guess we're done here now.
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Old 09-09-2013, 03:47 AM   #152
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Old 09-09-2013, 04:13 AM   #153
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i think ryback was massively over. but i also don't believe that he has the tools to handle a sustained push at the top. at least not now.
This. Ryback was over, but he wasn't "white-hot." It was a combination of him being pushed as a monster, his catchphrase being an easy thing to latch onto and Punk being so hated. I never for a moment thought that Ryback was the right choice to put over Punk, ever, but I do think that there has been some mishandling of his character at times. They never should have put him into the scene with Punk, but given that they did, they probably needed to go another route with him.

When you think about it, the build to WrestleMania probably should have seen Big Show and Ryback cross-paths with Big Show as World Heavyweight Champion. Show and Ryback get into a stare-down and Ryback attacks Show and hits him with Shell-Shocked after he successfully defends the World Title against Sheamus or something. Dolph Ziggler chooses that moment to cash in his briefcase and he becomes the new World Champion. Do this at the Royal Rumble and have Ryback later compete in the Rumble Match, go on a tear, only for Big Show to come out and eliminate him without being a participant himself.

This sets up Dolph Ziggler vs. Chris Jericho for the World Heavyweight Title and Big Show vs. Ryback for Mania. Fandango would have done something else amazing.
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Old 09-09-2013, 10:07 AM   #154
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Old 09-09-2013, 12:38 PM   #155
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What else are they gonna do with the guy. When he was a face, he squashed his jobber for 5 minutes, and that was it. At least as a heel, he can be someone you want to see defeated instead of "oh, he got another win."
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Old 09-09-2013, 04:45 PM   #156
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Yeah I didn't really enjoy Ryback til he went heel.
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Old 09-10-2013, 12:41 PM   #157
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So Bryan came out on top this week, have they pushed him too hard now?
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Old 09-10-2013, 12:42 PM   #158
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