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Old 11-06-2015, 08:00 AM   #121
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Man, this is a killer. Just laying out the current situation, we have:

Brock Lesnar - not around
John Cena - not around
Daniel Bryan - injured
Randy Orton - injured
Sting - assumed injured
Rusev - injured
Undertaker - occupied
Kane - occupied
Bray Wyatt - occupied
Luke Harper - occupied
Erick Rowan - occupied
Braun Strowman - occupied
The New Day - probably occupied
Lucha Dragons - probably occupied

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Possible Survivor Series field:

Roman Reigns
Dean Ambrose
Sheamus
King Barrett
Alberto Del Rio
Jack Swagger
Dolph Ziggler
Kevin Owens
Ryback
Cesaro
R-Truth
Tyler Breeze
Usos

Fuck me. I don't want to come off negative, but that looks like such a weak field. Hopefully they inject some life into it, but going back to Sheamus or Del Rio as top heels to carry things after the last 5 years of strong pushes and miserable failures really doesn't feel like the way to go at a time when ratings and house shows are already below par.




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Old 11-06-2015, 08:00 AM   #122
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Considering all those rumors that keep going around about Vince wanting Ambrose to go with a more "Vegas" style character wouldn't he fit in better as the new Corporate Champ?
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Old 11-06-2015, 08:02 AM   #123
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I hadn't heard that about a vegas character...could be interesting.

Perhaps this whole deal explains the Tatanka signing.




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Old 11-06-2015, 08:04 AM   #124
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OMFG! TATANKA WWE CHAMP!

How were we so blind!?
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Old 11-06-2015, 08:07 AM   #125
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OMFG! TATANKA WWE CHAMP!

How were we so blind!?
Precisely what I was thinking.

TATANKA YOTANKA HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION OF THE WOOOOOOOOOOOOORLD
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Old 11-06-2015, 09:07 AM   #126
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hb2k, you're forgetting ALEX RILEY is rehabbing right now
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Old 11-06-2015, 09:28 AM   #127
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Old 11-06-2015, 09:41 AM   #128
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Considering all those rumors that keep going around about Vince wanting Ambrose to go with a more "Vegas" style character wouldn't he fit in better as the new Corporate Champ?
well there is sumoa joe and james storm put them in or maby wwe can get aj styles for a surprise
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Old 11-06-2015, 09:54 AM   #129
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Shit, good catch. I should also update it to include the Cosmic Wasteland.
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Old 11-06-2015, 10:03 AM   #130
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I'd support a Stardust WHC run.
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Old 11-06-2015, 10:08 AM   #131
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Old 11-06-2015, 01:37 PM   #132
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Samoa Joe and Finn Balor should be in the tournament as surprise entrants.
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Old 11-06-2015, 01:38 PM   #133
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Not a bad choice. He really has nothin to do right now and like I said earlier in the thread, they need a face champion of some sort considering all the others are heels.
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Old 11-06-2015, 02:06 PM   #134
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Not going to happen, but can you imagine how insane the crowd would go for


Wish there were an actual chance of that, but hey, a guy can dream.
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Is this the first time Vacant is both Florida Heavyweight and WWE World Heavyweight Champions?
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Old 11-06-2015, 02:38 PM   #136
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All depends how many guys they want in the tournament.

Im assuming it's an 8 man tournament at the event.

Reigns
Big E
Del Rio
Cesaro
Ambrose
Wyatt
Ziggler
Owens

That would be my field assuming no outsiders. Would be cool if they could get some other guys like Jericho or Rock, but I'm assuming that's not happening.

If Reigns was meant to turn heel, this would be perfect way to do it. Have it come down to Reigns v Ambrose and Ambrose gets screwed. Ambrose v Reigns have a program culminating prior to Mania.

Brock wins Rumble and sets up the match with Reigns.
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Old 11-06-2015, 02:57 PM   #137
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Then Sheamus cashes in and brough kicks Reigns to win the WWE WHC.
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Can someone clarify something for me. This whole tournament business, does that mean the elimination tag match between the Wyatts and Taker and Kane has now been shelved?

I mean how can you have a tournament to crown a champion and not include Wyatt in there and for that matter Taker given the whole event is being billed as his 25th anniversary?


I for one wouldn't mind seeing Taker (or Sting) lifting the belt come the end of the night. Sure it would make no fucking sense given the beating he just took from Lesnar but didn't Austin win the belt off The Rock after a beating from Triple H at the previous PPV?

I think the whole event should be tournament matches and the obligatory WWE title match.

I for one would tune into that from start to finish with intrigue as opposed to just playing it in the background and tuning in as and when my main match is on.
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Then Sheamus cashes in and brough kicks Reigns to win the WWE WHC.
Hopefully that's not the plan
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Can someone clarify something for me. This whole tournament business, does that mean the elimination tag match between the Wyatts and Taker and Kane has now been shelved?

I mean how can you have a tournament to crown a champion and not include Wyatt in there and for that matter Taker given the whole event is being billed as his 25th anniversary?


I for one wouldn't mind seeing Taker (or Sting) lifting the belt come the end of the night. Sure it would make no fucking sense given the beating he just took from Lesnar but didn't Austin win the belt off The Rock after a beating from Triple H at the previous PPV?

I think the whole event should be tournament matches and the obligatory WWE title match.

I for one would tune into that from start to finish with intrigue as opposed to just playing it in the background and tuning in as and when my main match is on.
Your average Network Special has 7-8 matches.

So that would mean an 8 person tournament if it was only tournament matches. They did a 14 person tourny back in 98, but that was in the era of 4 minute matches. Don't see that today.

My guess is WWE will start with 8 guys on RAW, but have the Final 4 on the Network Special. That allows them to have other matches like a tag title match, a Divas title match, and whatever they had planned for the Wyatts to make it a more compete show. I guess they could always make it a 4 hour show. But don't know if that's possible with such short notice.
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If the tournament wasn't the plan could do a regular survivor series elimination match without teams. Sole survivor wins the WWE title.
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Old 11-06-2015, 05:31 PM   #142
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Is there any viability to pushing the Undertaker into the title picture given the list of absentees?

What about Sting?

And the likelihood Cena and Lesnar would be returning in time?
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Wouldn't mind Taker if Bray was the one to beat him for the title, but rewriting the Wyatt situation at the moment would be rough. That was about the only storyline going that I was actually interested in.
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Only one way to determine how to do this................

Put the entire roster in a Royal Rumble sim match on WWE 2k16 and see how it plays out. Then creative can take it from there.
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Put the entire roster in a Royal Rumble sim match on WWE 2k16 and see how it plays out. Then creative can take it from there.
Isn't how they booked the last 3 Rumbles?
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Man, this is a killer. Just laying out the current situation, we have:

Brock Lesnar - not around
John Cena - not around
Daniel Bryan - injured
Randy Orton - injured
Sting - assumed injured
Rusev - injured
Undertaker - occupied
Kane - occupied
Bray Wyatt - occupied
Luke Harper - occupied
Erick Rowan - occupied
Braun Strowman - occupied
The New Day - probably occupied
Lucha Dragons - probably occupied

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Possible Survivor Series field:

Roman Reigns
Dean Ambrose
Sheamus
King Barrett
Alberto Del Rio
Jack Swagger
Dolph Ziggler
Kevin Owens
Ryback
Cesaro
R-Truth
Tyler Breeze
Usos

Fuck me. I don't want to come off negative, but that looks like such a weak field. Hopefully they inject some life into it, but going back to Sheamus or Del Rio as top heels to carry things after the last 5 years of strong pushes and miserable failures really doesn't feel like the way to go at a time when ratings and house shows are already below par.
Their own fault. The whole "I'm bored now" thing has hampered pushing newer talent to the realm of credible threats. Some of that list on the bottom (and frankly, some of that top list as well :coughBRAYWYATTchough: )shouldn't be viewed as weak as they currently are.
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Holy fucking shit...

So basically Jay Lethal is the top wrestling champion in the world?
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Not going to happen, but can you imagine how insane the crowd would go for


Wish there were an actual chance of that, but hey, a guy can dream.
Wrestling fans who weren't even watching at the time would cum in their pants.

That would be a great way to open the show. Advertise a "mystery entrant" to give a nod to how the Undertaker came in. Then similar to how the Rock's intro as the guest host for WM went, you dim the lights and play some incidental music for about 15 seconds then very slowly bring up a whole shitload of red, white, and blue lighting, hit a BOOM BOOM BOOM with the pyro, five seconds of silence and dark, cue music. Angle wins the title at the end of the night and all true beleiving wrestling fans are taken in the Rapture.
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Just the Semis on PPV would be so weak. This should be massive news and the focus of the whole night. Everything should revolve around this tournament now.

They should build up having to win 3 matches in one night and focus on that

Taker and Bray can still have their match and you can have Divas on the pre-show.

That is still only 8 matches on the main card, less if someone gets a bye because of shenanigans
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Isn't how they booked the last 3 Rumbles?
Nah. That's ESPN's method of determining things. Running Super Bowl outcomes through Madden and such.
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Ambrose battles through a harder draw (Del Rio, then Kevin Owens) after getting injured by the armbreaker in his first match.

Reigns looks fresh against a bandaged up and exhausted Ambrose in the final. Spear sends ref sprawling, Ambrose looks like he will get the win after dirty deeds, HHH appears with chair, Reigns beats Ambrose down, ref comes to for the 3.

You make Reigns the top heel and Ambrose gets all the sympathy in the world for his struggles on the night.

To give it that epic feel it all needs to happen on the one night.
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WWE and ESPN are awful cheeky these days.
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Not going to happen, but can you imagine how insane the crowd would go for


Wish there were an actual chance of that, but hey, a guy can dream.
Could only be topped by
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That wouldn't top Kurt. No way.
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That wouldn't top Kurt. No way.
I think it would. Everyone sees Kurt getting back in the WWE in some way, shape or form. If Cult of Personality hit though...
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Not by a longshot.
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