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Old 01-21-2016, 04:49 AM   #1
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Styles is scheduled to be at the Royal Rumble this Sunday in Orlando, Florida as well as this week's Raw and Smackdown tapings in Miami and Tampa, respectively. Styles teased his debut over the weekend in The UK, noting on the mic at a RevPro event that should a Rumble match slot be "open for him", he would take it.

Whether he debuts at the Rumble PPV (and how he debuts) remains to be seen, but AJ Styles will be making his WWE debut very soon.
Hnnnnggggg. I will be watching the Rumble just in case, even thought I think it'll be a snooze fest in general.
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If AJ Styles is in the Royal Rumble, it only really makes sense to have him debut in a big way. What bigger way than making an impact by being the one to eliminate Roman Reigns? Everyone thinks we're getting Triple H vs. Reigns at WrestleMania, but maybe they can come through with The Rock wrestling Triple H. In that case, maybe they run Reigns vs. Styles?
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Old 01-22-2016, 08:02 AM   #3
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If AJ Styles is in the Royal Rumble, it only really makes sense to have him debut in a big way. What bigger way than making an impact by being the one to eliminate Roman Reigns? Everyone thinks we're getting Triple H vs. Reigns at WrestleMania, but maybe they can come through with The Rock wrestling Triple H. In that case, maybe they run Reigns vs. Styles?
AJ Styles/Daniel Bryan feud as Styles comes out and ruins Daniel Bryan's WWe return in the Rumble.
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That could work too. Bryan vs. Styles at WrestleMania would indeed rock.
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For some reason I like the idea of Kevin Owens vs. AJ Styles too. Maybe they don't even really bother with The Bullet Club idea right away, and just have Styles be Styles and keep the Club in the back pocket.
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Effective use of Styles in Florida between Rumble and RAW.

I remain skeptical about him in the long run though. I dont think he brings anything special to the table that WWE doesnt already have.
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Effective use of Styles in Florida between Rumble and RAW.

I remain skeptical about him in the long run though. I dont think he brings anything special to the table that WWE doesnt already have.
As always in total agreement with cynick. Well located state to debut him in. Much less of a pop laat night in miami. For all the hoopla the internet gives this guy, he brings a look and style that wwe has had before and already has. Once the "aj styles" is finally in the wwe sets in and the fans get frustrated that they didnt bring in all his clique right away and make him instachampion,he will be just another guy on the roster the size of tyler breeze with a southern accent
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As always in total agreement with cynick. Well located state to debut him in. Much less of a pop laat night in miami. For all the hoopla the internet gives this guy, he brings a look and style that wwe has had before and already has. Once the "aj styles" is finally in the wwe sets in and the fans get frustrated that they didnt bring in all his clique right away and make him instachampion,he will be just another guy on the roster the size of tyler breeze with a southern accent
Yeah I just don't see his appeal

He's a guy who has spent the majority of his career working in front of crowds that don't pay for tickets who see him as a stud.

Even his match was Jericho was good, but wasn't anywhere close to great. Now granted they haven't worked together to get chemistry, but I just see this guy being exposed now that he's on the big stage.
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Effective use of Styles in Florida between Rumble and RAW.

I remain skeptical about him in the long run though. I dont think he brings anything special to the table that WWE doesnt already have.
neither did Daniel Bryan and things worked out okay for him. Nobody alive thinks he's the 'saviour' or thinks he's going to be some kind of record setting headline babyface. But the AJ 'attraction' is that bell to bell, he is in the conversation when it comes to the very best wrestlers in the world. And there are only a handful of those guys alive, let alone just WWE. And that's more important to them now more than ever. So I think he brings a little bit of 'special' to the table.
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neither did Daniel Bryan and things worked out okay for him. Nobody alive thinks he's the 'saviour' or thinks he's going to be some kind of record setting headline babyface. But the AJ 'attraction' is that bell to bell, he is in the conversation when it comes to the very best wrestlers in the world. And there are only a handful of those guys alive, let alone just WWE. And that's more important to them now more than ever. So I think he brings a little bit of 'special' to the table.
Yup, and between a couple of the NXT guys, a returning Rollins, Nakamura coming in and maybe one day Daniel Bryan to face AJ, that's one helluva upper mid card/main event picture depending on how the crowd takes to him.
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neither did Daniel Bryan and things worked out okay for him. Nobody alive thinks he's the 'saviour' or thinks he's going to be some kind of record setting headline babyface. But the AJ 'attraction' is that bell to bell, he is in the conversation when it comes to the very best wrestlers in the world. And there are only a handful of those guys alive, let alone just WWE. And that's more important to them now more than ever. So I think he brings a little bit of 'special' to the table.
We'll see. People often forget that the majority of guys in WWE are really good. A lot of guys in NXT are really good.

I hope he does well. I just think he would have been more effective in NXT exclusively.
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We'll see. People often forget that the majority of guys in WWE are really good. A lot of guys in NXT are really good.

I hope he does well. I just think he would have been more effective in NXT exclusively.
WWE definitely has plenty of really good guys, people don't forget that. But there is a big difference between "really good" and "world class".
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I think bringing him in was a great idea and dont think he will have any problems getting Florida isnt the only place he is well known and he will be a good draw for their tours overseas and a big draw when they go back to Japan. lt all depends on how WWE uses him though, which has been pretty goid so far.
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Exposed how? Its not going to be in his in ring abilities as hes probably one of the better wrestlers on the roster. I thought his match with Jericho was pretty goid considering they had never worked together before. I dont think having a southern accent is going to hurt him either, that just sounds ridiculous.
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Biggest problem is his look.... Looks "almost exactly" like Justin Gabriel now, and we were taught not to care about that guy....
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Biggest problem is his look.... Looks "almost exactly" like Justin Gabriel now, and we were taught not to care about that guy....
He looks tiiiiiiiny as well. In good shape though.

In saying that, they dropped quite a bit of money on AJ and I think plan on using him at least for a bit. He will get "WWE"ized as everyone does but I think it will generally go well. He'll be a nice attraction in the upper mid card against the likes of Ambrose and Owens etc.
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Its always "the man's" fault, not the dude in the mirror.

Are you a millennial?
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I dont even know what the fuck a mellennial is. WWE has a track record of giving realky talented workers shit gimmicks and start and stop pushes. Im not shouting at "the man" just telling truths.
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Such as who exactly?

My experience is most guys who didnt reach their potential it was due to their own shortcomings - ie attitude, drugs, lack of charisma, etc etc
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Such as who? My experience is most guys who didn't reach their potential it was due to their own shortcomings - ie attitude, drugs, lack of charisma, etc etc
Wasnt really taling about people that have left the company. Plenty of examples on the main roster.
Ziggler- really over and had main event potential a few years ago after getting rid of the Athority. Really good but used as a mid card gatekeeper in my opinion

Fandango- Dumb gimmick, talented worker. He even got it over before haveing his push stalled

Jack Swagger-Oh my is We the People over and WWE continues to not take advantage of it.

Sandow-Charasmatic as any superstar on the roster and has gotten every gimmick he had over.

Not asking for them to be main event guys but at keast give them somthing to work with thats got some depth.
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Wasnt really taling about people that have left the company. Plenty of examples on the main roster.
Ziggler- really over and had main event potential a few years ago after getting rid of the Athority. Really good but used as a mid card gatekeeper in my opinion

Fandango- Dumb gimmick, talented worker. He even got it over before haveing his push stalled

Jack Swagger-Oh my is We the People over and WWE continues to not take advantage of it.

Sandow-Charasmatic as any superstar on the roster and has gotten every gimmick he had over.

Not asking for them to be main event guys but at keast give them somthing to work with thats got some depth.
Yeah not trying to dismiss you here, but I don't think any of those had more potential than what they got. Fandango and Sandow are both Curtain jerkers. Fun curtain jerkers, but never had the IT factor.

Ziggler was and is a semi main event hand. He's a guy you can stick in there with other guys and give you a good little match. Up until the last 6 or 12 months I would say he's been pushed really hard. Always at or near the top of the card. But then he stated to run his mouth publically and ventured into other forms of entertainment. Hard to put the machine behind someone who has one foot out the door.
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Yeah not trying to dismiss you here, but I don't think any of those had more potential than what they got. Fandango and Sandow are both Curtain jerkers. Fun curtain jerkers, but never had the IT factor.

Ziggler was and is a semi main event hand. He's a guy you can stick in there with other guys and give you a good little match. Up until the last 6 or 12 months I would say he's been pushed really hard. Always at or near the top of the card. But then he stated to run his mouth publically and ventured into other forms of entertainment. Hard to put the machine behind someone who has one foot out the door.
I mean do you just think of dumb stuff to say. Their top guy (Cena) has his feet in so many doors an octopus would struggle to keep up. Ziggler having a comedy act shouldnt hurt his position with the company. Ziggler just resigned withh WWE last year, if he had one foot out the door he would have left then.
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Yeah not trying to dismiss you here, but I don't think any of those had more potential than what they got. Fandango and Sandow are both Curtain jerkers. Fun curtain jerkers, but never had the IT factor.

Ziggler was and is a semi main event hand. He's a guy you can stick in there with other guys and give you a good little match. Up until the last 6 or 12 months I would say he's been pushed really hard. Always at or near the top of the card. But then he stated to run his mouth publically and ventured into other forms of entertainment. Hard to put the machine behind someone who has one foot out the door.
... unless that's what WWE plans for you, you mean.

No bones have been made about this exact thing being the endgame for being behind Roman from the get go. But someone other than pre-picked people wanting to try their hand at other shit? Preposterous!

And Zigs has never truly been consistently pushed. He is one of those start/stop victims.

One of the biggest problems with WWE booking is exactly what you said about Sandow and Fandango: the idea that certain people are "fun curtain jerkers" and nothing more. If they get presented that way all the time, people will ultimately think just that. WWE themselves have the ability to change ghat perception for a good majority of their roster. They just don't.

Right now, you have AJ Styles. The major knock I've read in this thread is how he doesn't have anything others on the roster don't. I disagree. He has his name. In spite of the WWE idea of "TNA doesn't exist", people who watch wrestling know who the fucking guy is. He got a good pop at the Rumble simply from the word "phenomenal" appearing on a screen. His match with Jericho, while nothing earth-shaking, was pretty damn decent considering they haven't crossed paths. In-ring, it was back and forth enough to give AJ footing to show a WWE crowd (kayfabe wise) he "can hang with a big name". He also is a decent wrestler. The teasing of the heel turn by Chris also opens a door for a feud, which would give AJ something to do on TV to help those unfamiliar give a shit. There announce team did something they rarely seemed to do since the departure of JR: put over in-ring talent that isn't Cena being "freakishly strong" or something to blow smoke over everyone about Roman. (Although, to be fair, it *is* getting better... but it is slow going, and likely out of neccessity with the whole plague of injuries issue- they HAVE to try to put people over in the booth).

And they did it to the guy who was, for quite awhile, the FRANCHISE of that wrestling show that doesn't exist. They could have just as easily planted the usual "who is this goof?" Or "He doesn't belong here!" types of ear worms that don't shine decent light on up-and-coming talent. The only remaining obstacle is if, after the assumed feud with Jericho is over, he gets demoted to Main Event duty and is not seen for like 6-8 months on a show people actually watch.

It is a good start in presentation. His only flaw might be his promo ability (I don't mean his accent), and Jeff Hardy became a goddamn megastar years ago with less ability on the stick than AJ. And this shouldn't have to be prefaced (but of course it does), I'm not suggesting AJ gets a rocket up his ass and he headlines WrestleMania for the championship, but not automatically pigeonhole him into a curtain-jerking position just because he isn't tall like Strowman or fondly remembered from WCW like Sting, either.
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Of course it was always their fault somehow. Because otherwise, you'd have to admit WWE's ability to book stars nowadays is less than stellar. And that would make the CyNickWWEBOOKING#1 bot malfunction.
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Sandow pretty meh. Was horrified when he won Money in the Bank and I thought that they were actually going to put the title on him.
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Didnt like him winning MITB either but that was another by product having 2 World titles.
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He probably wasn't a world title guy at the time. He definitely wasn't a world title guy during the Mizdow gimmick. But he was always talented as fuck and he got over. The fact that he's spent so much time just doing nothing now is retarded.
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He probably wasn't a world title guy at the time. He definitely wasn't a world title guy during the Mizdow gimmick. But he was always talented as fuck and he got over. The fact that he's spent so much time just doing nothing now is retarded.
Do you think Santino had main event potential? Not sure how old you are, but what about Hacksaw Jim Duggan? Some guys can be super over with crowds, but it's due to comedy. It's fine to do that to get your foot in the door, but eventually you have to pivot to bring able to be more than comedy. None of those guys were effective at doing that. Sandow for my money is in the same boat.

There's no conspiracy holding these guys back.
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Do you think Santino had main event potential?
How many times are you gonna reply to people saying "This guy is super talented and over. It's silly that WWE doesn't feature him somewhere on the show." with the "You think this guy should be a main eventer!? lol" response? I've seriously said this AT LEAST 3 times by now and you refuse to grasp this simple fucking point. You really do struggle with comprehending points to a mentally challenged level. Either that or you're so desperate to avoid shit that fucks up your narrative that you don't care how incredibly stupid you sound.
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AJ Styles will be upper midcard nothing more.
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I don't think anybody is expecting him to be a headliner barring something unforeseen/a huge stroke of luck/something unexpected catching on and the WWE machine doing it's thing, he doesn't have all "the tools" on his own
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I don't think anybody is expecting him to be a headliner barring something unforeseen/a huge stroke of luck/something unexpected catching on and the WWE machine doing it's thing, he doesn't have all "the tools" on his own
Yeah, the idea of bringing him and Nakamura in is for an exciting midcard with some of the NXT guys I believe. Have some solid matches and programs to keep thethe hardcore coming back that they've lost with the current product so they try to appease a few audiences at once.
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Went ahead and watched Jericho/Styles. Was pretty good. Not quite as good as I was expecting but I suspect they may have been holding some things off for a PPV match at Fastlane. Could also just be that Jericho's just needed to slow his style down a tad now he's in his mid-40s whereas if this match had been done in the early 2000s it would have been a lot different.

Speaking of which, I think Jericho vs. Styles was the very first feud I booked in EWR way back in like 2003. Pretty cool to see that match finally happen for real.
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Gonna just quote the same response I had last time CyNick gave the same braindead response.

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Just realizing that CyNick's inability to understand that there's a huge world to take advantage of between "nothing" and "main event" is the same problem WWE seems to have. Things are making sense.

I can actually see some writer pitching an idea for Damien Sandow for a good, entertaining mid to upper-midcard story that is showcased somewhere in the middle of Raw every week and Vince responding with "Fuck that, he's not a main eventer!"
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I bet The CyNick has nightmares about getting brutally beat down like a girly man by The Macho Mandow OOOOOOOOOOHHHH YEEEEEAAAHHHHHH
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Fandango has the size, the look, the charisma, the in-ring skills... Take away the comedy gimmick and he's face of the company material. There's literally nothing he doesn't have. Push him hard, make him the champ eventually and then throw him out on media appearances and he makes the company look like a million bucks.
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