TPWW Forums  

Go Back   TPWW Forums > w r e s t l i n g > wrestling forum
Reload this Page NXT 2.0 "Definitely not a Takeover" WAUGH GAMES
Register Members List

Reply
Page 4 of 4 123 4
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 12-06-2021, 01:35 PM   #1
Mr. Nerfect
 
Posts: 61,634
Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fignuts View Post
There are times where he gets in strike exchanges and it's like "okay guy, stick to what you know", but he still deserves a mention for making his main repertoire of moves work on bigger guys.
Don’t disagree with that at all. His actual execution of submission holds, as you point out, is fine. It’s his overall psychology that zones me out, lol.
Mr. Nerfect is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-06-2021, 01:48 PM   #2
Fignuts
Hey Mister!
 
Fignuts's Avatar
 
Posts: 54,952
Fignuts makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Fignuts makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Fignuts makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Fignuts makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Fignuts makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Fignuts makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Fignuts makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Fignuts makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Fignuts makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Fignuts makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Fignuts makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Fignuts makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Fignuts makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
He's around the same height as Will Hobbs, Jeff Cobb, and Miro, and nobody calls those guys vanilla midgets.
Fignuts is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-06-2021, 02:31 PM   #3
slik
Trickster Demon
 
slik's Avatar
 
Posts: 59,823
slik makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)slik makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)slik makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)slik makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)slik makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)slik makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)slik makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)slik makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)slik makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)slik makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)slik makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)slik makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)slik makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
I probably ranted too much about this when I was tired last night, so apologies to DrA and Vastardikai if I seemed rude. I'll probably have a totally different opinion on what I was talking about in six months because that's just how I am.

Cheers!
slik is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-07-2021, 01:04 AM   #4
Vastardikai
Taller than Adam Cole
 
Vastardikai's Avatar
 
Posts: 10,876
Vastardikai makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Vastardikai makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Vastardikai makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Vastardikai makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Vastardikai makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Vastardikai makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Vastardikai makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Vastardikai makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Vastardikai makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Vastardikai makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Vastardikai makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Vastardikai makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Vastardikai makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
There are a few things to note: 1. I was not comparing Bronn Breaker to Goldberg. I said that A. Goldberg has more than the 2 moves everyone bitched about. He actually had more. and B. One of those moves Goldberg did is the move Breaker is currently using as a finish.



2. While I don't necessarily agree with all of his terminology, Destor kind of explained my point a bit better than I did.

3. There are multiple schools of thought as to what is Professional Wrestling. At it's most successful, The school used was primarily "Wrestling as Morality Play." "Wrestling as a Sport" is a close second. "Wrestling as a Comedy routine" or "Wrestling as an Athletic Exhibition" are a bit more niche presentations.

I have said this before, and I am not in the minority here. I do want to see folks who I believe can whip my ass in a fight. It's not a hard and fast thing. I respect what the Miz does, as he fills his role to perfection. He is obnoxious and you want to punch him in the face. But he doesn't try to be cool and he isn't winking at the crowd while he's doing what he does. The occasional athletic exhibition can be really fun. But it has to be occasional. Ricochet doing his tumbling routine with Ospreay that one time, I don't care for it, but I understand what is going on. Ricochet doing his tumbling routine with Cesaro, ok I buy that because Cesaro is an atheletic freak. Ricochet doing his tumbling routine with the Viking, he can fuck right off. In order for that whole routine to work, he has to establish that there are people who can't keep up with him. The Viking, as agile as he is, should be able to keep up with him. He should be trying to blast him out of the sky or getting winded trying.

I'm tired of "work rate" circle jerks. It's just a different version of the John Laurinitis paradox. If everyone's a giant, no one's a giant. (we actually agree on this). If everyone's a phenomenal wrestler, no one's a phenomenal wrestler. I don't want just different sized dudes having the same kind of match. I want different sized dudes doing different things. For a long time, NXT was too into the "smaller" work rate guys with minimal personality. And now we are seeing the more personality based guys that look like they have spent time in the weight room.
Vastardikai is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-07-2021, 02:05 PM   #5
Mr. Nerfect
 
Posts: 61,634
Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vastardikai View Post
There are a few things to note: 1. I was not comparing Bronn Breaker to Goldberg. I said that A. Goldberg has more than the 2 moves everyone bitched about. He actually had more. and B. One of those moves Goldberg did is the move Breaker is currently using as a finish.



2. While I don't necessarily agree with all of his terminology, Destor kind of explained my point a bit better than I did.

3. There are multiple schools of thought as to what is Professional Wrestling. At it's most successful, The school used was primarily "Wrestling as Morality Play." "Wrestling as a Sport" is a close second. "Wrestling as a Comedy routine" or "Wrestling as an Athletic Exhibition" are a bit more niche presentations.

I have said this before, and I am not in the minority here. I do want to see folks who I believe can whip my ass in a fight. It's not a hard and fast thing. I respect what the Miz does, as he fills his role to perfection. He is obnoxious and you want to punch him in the face. But he doesn't try to be cool and he isn't winking at the crowd while he's doing what he does. The occasional athletic exhibition can be really fun. But it has to be occasional. Ricochet doing his tumbling routine with Ospreay that one time, I don't care for it, but I understand what is going on. Ricochet doing his tumbling routine with Cesaro, ok I buy that because Cesaro is an atheletic freak. Ricochet doing his tumbling routine with the Viking, he can fuck right off. In order for that whole routine to work, he has to establish that there are people who can't keep up with him. The Viking, as agile as he is, should be able to keep up with him. He should be trying to blast him out of the sky or getting winded trying.

I'm tired of "work rate" circle jerks. It's just a different version of the John Laurinitis paradox. If everyone's a giant, no one's a giant. (we actually agree on this). If everyone's a phenomenal wrestler, no one's a phenomenal wrestler. I don't want just different sized dudes having the same kind of match. I want different sized dudes doing different things. For a long time, NXT was too into the "smaller" work rate guys with minimal personality. And now we are seeing the more personality based guys that look like they have spent time in the weight room.
Fantastic fucking post.
Mr. Nerfect is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-07-2021, 02:19 PM   #6
Mr. Nerfect
 
Posts: 61,634
Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
The whole goal of what this is supposed to be has changed.
Mr. Nerfect is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply
Page 4 of 4 123 4

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:04 AM.

Forums Home - TPWW - Archive - Top

Powered by vBulletin®