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Old 09-21-2004, 03:49 PM   #121
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Jevon Kearse wasn't blocked at all, the entire game. And he jumped the count every time. Culpepper got scared and dumped it off.

Jermaine Wiggins had like 10 receptions.

The Eagles corners didn't do shit. But against a good, healthy line, and a good back (see: Packers) the Eagles will not win.

That said, I think the Eagles will beat the Lions. In fact, facing the Lions, then the Bears in consecutive weeks? Harsh.

Then they face the Ravens. Hopefully, the Ravens will amass 300 rushing yards, but :dunno:

They better do a better job of gameplanning Owens than they did in preseason. Which is to say, the Ravens have a pass-rush which the Vikes don't have, and the Ravens have better linebackers which will counteract the short pass and the sweep. HOPEFULLY.

*shrug* Eagles had one "tough" game in the first half of the season, and it was at home vs Minnesota.

Thankfully, you can't write the Lions or the Bears off, so maybe one or both will pull an upset.

Thank God for the Eagles they're in the NFC Least so they have 6 games they can't lose, plus going against the NFC North gives them two easy wins, one MNF game at home against a MN team that seems to be ready to fall apart and then the Packers at home.

Looks like the NFL is begging for an Eagles repeat to the NFC Championship game. But thankfully, they will choke again.
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Fuck All You Eagle Haters out there! Everyone thought big old Randy Moss was gonna roll into Philly and steamroll everyone. Haha you hear him practically crying when TO got a touchdown! All I gotta say is:

E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!bitches
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Old 09-21-2004, 04:02 PM   #123
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I dont think people hate the Eagles as much as they hate Eagles fans
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What are you talking about, Moss played pretty good last night. Other than that one catch Owens made (which as has been said, shouldn't have counted anyways since he was out of bounds and had no control), he did absolutely nothing.
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but he plays for the eagles so if he had one catch for 3 yards he's still better then moss
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I'm saying a lot of people predicted they Vikings offense was just going to light up the young Corners of the Eagles and Sheldon Brown, and Lito Sheppard did a PHENOMINAL job on Moss and the Vikings recievers.... And no one can ever say Donovan McNabb is overrated. He practically the same stats as Culpepper but the thing is Mcnabb doesn't turn it over every god damn play! There is NO WAY he is overrated.
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When asked about the challenge, Tice said "that doesn't matter. What matters is that we need our players to make plays, and they didn't. It doesn't matter whether we challenge it or not."

OH MY GOD. I HATE YOU MIKE TICE.

He defended his stupidity in not challenging, by saying it was the players' fault. He will never take any responsibility. He is the worst coach ever.

PS: Mike Rosenthal is out indefinitely, and Wiggins broke his hand. The Vikings are all-but fucked this season. Especially with Tice at the helm.

But think about this: A non-catch was ruled a long bomb TD catch. Winfield was called on a phantom holding call on a play where MN stopped Philly, and Birk was called on a phantom holding call on a play where Pep ran it in for a TD, making it a close game.

Just keep that in mind. That's a 21 point swing based on poor officiating.
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Nobody even said McNabb was over-rated, what the fuck are you talking about? You're making points for arguments that aren't even there.

And again, nobody said that Philadelphia was going to be dominated. Culpepper had over 300 yards passing, I'd say that reflects very poorly on Philly's defense (not that Culpepper is bad or anything, but any time a team gives up 340 yards through the air isn't really a victory for the defense)

And to be honest the corners didn't even do that good of a job. Moss had I think like 11 passes thrown his way, and he caught 8. If Culpepper had time to let plays develop more, Moss would have made you cry.
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Alphabean, you're just making excuses because the Eagles own your Vikings!
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When asked about the challenge, Tice said "that doesn't matter. What matters is that we need our players to make plays, and they didn't. It doesn't matter whether we challenge it or not."

OH MY GOD. I HATE YOU MIKE TICE.

He defended his stupidity in not challenging, by saying it was the players' fault. He will never take any responsibility. He is the worst coach ever.

PS: Mike Rosenthal is out indefinitely, and Wiggins broke his hand. The Vikings are all-but fucked this season. Especially with Tice at the helm.

But think about this: A non-catch was ruled a long bomb TD catch. Winfield was called on a phantom holding call on a play where MN stopped Philly, and Birk was called on a phantom holding call on a play where Pep ran it in for a TD, making it a close game.

Just keep that in mind. That's a 21 point swing based on poor officiating.
Speaking of Mike Tice did anyone hear John Madden tell the story about Miek Tice getting pencil led stuck up his ass? John Madden is a crack up
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Nobody even said McNabb was over-rated, what the fuck are you talking about? You're making points for arguments that aren't even there.

And again, nobody said that Philadelphia was going to be dominated. Culpepper had over 300 yards passing, I'd say that reflects very poorly on Philly's defense (not that Culpepper is bad or anything, but any time a team gives up 340 yards through the air isn't really a victory for the defense)

And to be honest the corners didn't even do that good of a job. Moss had I think like 11 passes thrown his way, and he caught 8. If Culpepper had time to let plays develop more, Moss would have made you cry.
Nah I'm saying in other threads people say the most ridiculous things like someone said Kyle Boller is better than McNabb? And people say McNabb is overrated I'm not directing to anyone man, calm yourself
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The only teams that will compete against the Eagles to win the NFC are the Vikings, Seahawks, and maybe the Packers.
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I'm saying a lot of people predicted they Vikings offense was just going to light up the young Corners of the Eagles and Sheldon Brown, and Lito Sheppard did a PHENOMINAL job on Moss and the Vikings recievers.... And no one can ever say Donovan McNabb is overrated. He practically the same stats as Culpepper but the thing is Mcnabb doesn't turn it over every god damn play! There is NO WAY he is overrated.
He's overrated. Did you see all the wide-open looks he threw poorly?

Culpepper was blitzed on every play and had far better passing stats than McNabb. He even had a rushing TD. Wait no, we can't have that. The best Center in the NFL was called for "holding."

Problem is, Pep fumbled. Why? Because of the pass rush.

Remember the times Pep threw to Moss? Completions. Why? Because he was open. Pass to the end zone? TD. Other pass to the end zone? Overthrown, Moss interfering was smart; it saved an INT. Had Pep thrown it back a little, Moss would have probably had a TD. Moss was open deep on many plays, Madden said it over and over again. The Eagles didn't beat Moss, the Eagles beat Culpepper.

It's like Shaq and Kobe... if you pressure Kobe, he will try to make the plays, and won't give the ball to the star. Culpepper tried to run too much, and dumped it off too much, because he was being pressured. Moss was open. Culpepper wasn't.

The Corners didn't shut Randy down, not at all.

Adam Haayer is rated in the 50s on Madden. Lined up against Kearse. The injuries are too much for MN. Any good rush end (Ogunleye, anyone? KGB?) we face will destroy us. We're pretty much fucked now, without Kleinsasser and without Rosenthal.
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He's overrated. Did you see all the wide-open looks he threw poorly?

Culpepper was blitzed on every play and had far better passing stats than McNabb. He even had a rushing TD. Wait no, we can't have that. The best Center in the NFL was called for "holding."

Problem is, Pep fumbled. Why? Because of the pass rush.

Remember the times Pep threw to Moss? Completions. Why? Because he was open. Pass to the end zone? TD. Other pass to the end zone? Overthrown, Moss interfering was smart; it saved an INT. Had Pep thrown it back a little, Moss would have probably had a TD. Moss was open deep on many plays, Madden said it over and over again. The Eagles didn't beat Moss, the Eagles beat Culpepper.

It's like Shaq and Kobe... if you pressure Kobe, he will try to make the plays, and won't give the ball to the star. Culpepper tried to run too much, and dumped it off too much, because he was being pressured. Moss was open. Culpepper wasn't.

The Corners didn't shut Randy down, not at all.

Adam Haayer is rated in the 50s on Madden. Lined up against Kearse. The injuries are too much for MN. Any good rush end (Ogunleye, anyone? KGB?) we face will destroy us. We're pretty much fucked now, without Kleinsasser and without Rosenthal.
One question. Who Won?
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Alphabean, you're just making excuses because the Eagles own your Vikings!
A million things went wrong, and it hurts. It hurts real bad. Because I have to face facts... Tice is the worst coach in the NFL.
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Nah I'm saying in other threads people say the most ridiculous things like someone said Kyle Boller is better than McNabb? And people say McNabb is overrated I'm not directing to anyone man, calm yourself
That post was obviously heavy sarcasm, making fun of the whole Rush Limbeau incident. I know you're an Eagles fan, but c'mon, you should be able to figure at least that much out.
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Way to read my post and acknowledge my points.
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That post was obviously heavy sarcasm, making fun of the whole Rush Limbeau incident. I know you're an Eagles fan, but c'mon, you should be able to figure at least that much out.
McNabb is overrated. Not because he's black, but because he's on the Eagles. Pep is way, way better than McNabb, except that he fumbles.

Like I said, if the Vikings had anything resembling a pass rush, McNabb wouldn't have done nearly as good as Pep.

Remember... the Vikings got like NO pressure and McNabb still dumped the ball off to his checkdown receivers. Pep still found his receivers despite constant pressure.

but boy, did he ever suck shit in the red zone. Wow.
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C'mon. Chicago's like entire secondary is out for the season. There is no way Minnesota can lose.
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I bet the Packers thought the same thing.

MN is still without a RT, and the Bears still have Ogunleye.

And MN still has Culpepper's girlishly small hands. And the Bears still have Urlacher.

MN's defense is still 26th in the NFL, and the Bears were able to march on the Packers.

And I can't get the taste out of my mouth from this game. We didn't lose, we just got destroyed. Their defense, their playcalling, they got all the calls, we made the most IDIOTIC play-calls in the history of the world in the red zone, we could have won it. We should have won it. I wish I knew what Tice was thinking. This makes me feel like the Cards loss.
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Onterrio just isn't good enough though. As a #3 guy he can be a huge threat but he isn't good enough to do it all by himself. They should have used Mewelde more (pun)
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Onterrio, like Bennett and Moe, will be far, far less effective without Kleinsasser.

And without Rosenthal? We ran the ball well early on, well enough I guess, but we lack the run blocking that we had all of last season.

Onterrio has the skills to be elite, but right now he's thinking about his suspension, his focus isn't what it should be. That hurts us. And a star HB with good solid skills is perfect for a better rushing team. If we had Moe, we could pound the ball and keep the defense honest. With Bennett, we could utilize his speed to split the defense. Onterrio is in between. On a system like the Packers, he'd get 2k yards.

That is, if he wasn't being suspended, and is acting like he's anticipating it.
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So what, you should still go to the game. The Bears are still awful, just because they didn't lose to the Packers for the 800th time in a row doesn't make them a playoff team
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But wwf#1fan said they're the next Dallas Panthers. I'm afraid. That Quincy Delhomme is a beast. And Laroi Jenkins is the best DT in the league. :scared:
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If both teams choke, they should pull a Duante/Donovan swap
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If Daunte stops running draws, or learns how to hold onto the ball, he's the best QB in the NFL.

McNabb can run, but wants to believe he's a pocket QB, but you can tell by his throws, he's half the QB Pep is. His throws more often than not hit the dirt, or soar overhead. Pep's throws are insane, even while getting tackled he chucked one that looked like a McNabb normal pass, to Burleson, for a first down.
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Are you a Packers fan? WTF aren't you also a Braves and Red Wings fan or something too?
The Red Wings can die. I hate them.

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Yes it does god dammit, we've discussed this!
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