Big News: Muhammed Hassan possibly going from WWE Smackdown? - Page 4

**Batsu** · 07-22-2005, 06:41 PM

Excellent post by Corkscrewed.

The removal of Hassan just might end up turning him face.

But no matter how they repackage him, his entrances won't be the same without...

ALAAAAYAAAAAYLEEAAAA
LAAAAAYLEEAAAAAAA
LAAAAYAAYAYAYAYE...

**Volchok** · 07-22-2005, 06:50 PM

This thread has now been Hassan'd...

**vampiro03** · 07-22-2005, 06:53 PM

people were chanting against him because he was a heel. DUH. the "interview" was in charactor. he stayed in character the whole time. people who are pissed because he got booed, HE IS A HEEL. it sucks though. i loved to hate him. wwe needs to set up something with usa to let the hassan charactor on, when they move.

LK · 07-22-2005, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by vampiro03

WWE needs to set up something with usa to let the hassan charactor on, when they move.

That's a good point actually. Aren't they moving Raw from Spike to the USA network in like a month. So Taker beats him and Daivari really badly at GAB and he goes off TV for a month or two. Then he shows up on Raw with a bunch of material about how he was forced off of Smackdown by his co-workers and the media.

**TerranRich** · 07-22-2005, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by EcKo 03 ComPlEX

This thread has now been Hassan'd...

DAMN YOU, HASSAN!!!

**Corkscrewed** · 07-22-2005, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Shadow

Can you be a WWE writer for just one day?

That'd be like a Paul-Heyman-As-Consultant situation.

Anyway, I honestly think they should have him come back, "break kayfabe," and shoot all over this recent media outcry. If he presents himself as not even Arab, I don't they'd be able to call him on anything. This would force the media to defend itself, and the ensuing publicity could be very interesting.

Best case scenario, the WWE ironically becomes a teacher of morals and acceptance to America.

**Bricktop** · 07-22-2005, 08:51 PM

If they were to bring the men that strangled the undertaker and carried off divari, then unmask them to show that they are other wrestlers on the roster and not terrorists, would this reduce heat on Hassan? The masked men could be for example Charlie haas, mark jindrak, luthor reigns, or some other jobbers that the UT has crushed in the last few years. It would make perfect sense that these men wanted revenge on the undertaker.

They could base a whole future smackdown show on who the mystery men are and slowly reveal them one by one, as the show goes on. They could leave the final one to turn out to be randy Orton at GAB, where he costs UT the match.

This would screw up the whole argument that this was a terrorists angle, with the masked men turning out to be white/American wrestlers and not men of Arab descent.

**Danny Electric** · 07-22-2005, 08:53 PM

You just know that he'll come out as corky said but they'll still chant 'usa'

**Loose Cannon** · 07-22-2005, 09:36 PM

I stll can't believe this shit. Just like that. Gone. I seriously hope the WWE is not going to end the whole dam thing. Just keep him off TV for a while and let him come back, even on Raw if they have too. But sending him back to OVW is a slap in the face to the guy and Daivari, who have basically busted thier asses to get both characters over as one of the best two heels going today.

The whole thing is a fucking joke.

**The One** · 07-22-2005, 09:41 PM

Vince: Hi come in Mark...well here's the deal. Good work on getting Hassan over, I mean you single handedly took a somewhat stupid angle and turned it into one of the best heel characters by showing the audience their own stupidity. So since you did so well with the character, everyone is giving you alot of heat, so we're going to move you back down to OVW and you can back in a few months when those fickle fans forget you. Bye.

**Loose Cannon** · 07-22-2005, 09:55 PM

If I was the WWE right now and I had no choice but to end the character, I would turn this whole thing around and make Hassan the a huge babyface and do that by getting the audience to sympahtize with him. Show his other "life" outside of the ring. Not like a real life, but a fake other life, where he's helping children in the hospital, he's partaking in charity events, he's helping the homeless. And then show people being prejudice to him at times and people will start to realize why he is the way he is when he's in the wrestling ring. And you show these "videos" while he's away for a while. Maybe have him start to become more accepting of American society and start to realize he might have been wrong at times too.

Just do something

**Shadow** · 07-22-2005, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by The One

Vince: Hi come in Mark...well here's the deal. Good work on getting Hassan over, I mean you single handedly took a somewhat stupid angle and turned it into one of the best heel characters by showing the audience their own stupidity. So since you did so well with the character, everyone is giving you alot of heat, so we're going to move you back down to OVW and you can back in a few months when those fickle fans forget you. Bye.

that's probably how that convo went

**loopydate** · 07-22-2005, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by My e-mail to WWE.com

In light of all the recent hoopla surrounding the Muhammad Hassan character, I understand that the company is facing a lot of bad publicity keeping him on the air and that you are considering removing him entirely.

Please don't do this. Please don't give in to the very mindset that the Hassan character was created to oppose. There have to be dozens of ways that you can reach an agreement with UPN to keep the man on the air.

Hassan and Daivari are two of the most entertaining performers in WWE right now, and two of my favorite characters. Please don't take them off the air simply because the moral police in this country misinterpreted his character.

I know that the voice of one fan isn't going to help save Muhammad Hassan, but I'm sincerely hoping that I'm not the only one out here who is writing to you about this.

There are thousands of Hassan admirers in the world, and you can bet that we'll continue to support the product even if you let this "terrorist" (I'm rolling my eyes even as I write that word) remain on the air.

WWE has - for the last decade and a half - made a habit of pushing the envelope with storylines that strike an emotional chord with the audience. You did it in 1991 when Sgt. Slaughter allied himself with the Iraqis. You did it in the late '90s when a beer-swilling redneck rebelled against every conceivable authority.

Muhammad Hassan has the potential to be just as good for business as the Austins, Rocks, Triple Hs, and Foleys of the last five years. People will pay good money to see him get his comeuppance (and just as many will be sitting at home cheering him on from our living rooms).

So, please, don't ruin one of the best things about your on-air product by bowing to corporate censorship.

Free Muhammad Hassan!

**Shadow** · 07-22-2005, 10:33 PM

You better tell us what they say back Loopy.

**Savio** · 07-22-2005, 10:39 PM

They never write back.

**KingofOldSchool** · 07-22-2005, 10:45 PM

They will probably not even read it and just send some generic email back to him.

Maybe they'll send him an autographed 8x10 of Triple H.

**TerranRich** · 07-23-2005, 02:40 AM

Whoops, wrong thread.

**Mr. Nerfect** · 07-23-2005, 03:29 AM

Seriously, get Muhammad Hassan to come out at The Great American Bash, and have a video play of people in his community that have nothing but good things to say about Hassan. Like LC said, show him donating stuff, show playing with his kids, and being proud that they're getting good marks at school. Show people saying that the media is wrong for crucifying him because he is Arab-American.

Have him then come out, and cut a promo where he tears into the media, tears into management (about how they've made him into a "terrorist"), etc. Have him say he supports the troops in Iraq, is proud to have been born in America, to have received an American education, to earn American money, to eat American food, and to perform in a wrestling ring. He is proud of his heritage, and if that makes him a terrorist, it is the media and the fans that are un-American, not him.

**Corkscrewed** · 07-23-2005, 03:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Shadow

You better tell us what they say back Loopy.

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**ddpBANG** · 07-23-2005, 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Corkscrewed

Thank you for your interest in our product. We at the WWE value your opinion and thank you for your support.

I bet you'd get the same response if you told them Undertaker just blew up your house.

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**freerock1.com** · 07-23-2005, 05:03 PM

I had actually thought of the same kind of thing as Alienoid06, making Hassan into a flag-waver. But I've also gotta give props to Corkscrewed's idea.

07-23-2005, 05:21 PM

I agree with whoever it was said keep hassan and daivari off tv until a deal is reached with the network that SD! goes to in fall of 06/spring of 07, and try to get him on the show on a different network...this way it'll give us all just a little bit of time to think about people besides hassan and daivari

**CYCLOPTERSAURUS** · 07-23-2005, 06:37 PM

Corkscrewed is absolutely right about everything. If they have to ditch the character, that storyline idea would be fantastic. All this controversy is just so perfect to feed the character, but to drop him entirely is outrageous.

EDIT: It'd be great if somebody had that Hassan speech from WWE.com on one of those download services or something. Streaming video from WWE.com doesn't work for me for some reason.

**Gouda** · 07-23-2005, 10:28 PM

I don't know if this has been posted here or not, I'm too lazy to look. From a Muslim website:

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At first, WWE defended the show. In a comical yet valiant effort that would have made any Public Relations veteran proud, WWE spokesperson Gary Davis tried to portray the segment as pro-Arab:

Mr. Hassan, he explained, is not a terrorist, but an angry, disillusioned Arab-American, embracing his roots after experiencing racism from other Americans since the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.

Nice try.

"Nice try"? If they actually watched the show they would know that that was exactly what his character was.

Source: http://www.muslimwakeup.com/blog/arc...wrestler_o.php

**shawn112233** · 07-23-2005, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by CYCLOPTERSAURUS

Corkscrewed is absolutely right about everything. If they have to ditch the character, that storyline idea would be fantastic. All this controversy is just so perfect to feed the character, but to drop him entirely is outrageous.

EDIT: It'd be great if somebody had that Hassan speech from WWE.com on one of those download services or something. Streaming video from WWE.com doesn't work for me for some reason.

I posted the video in the video thread a little while ago. Anyways, here are the links:

http://rapidshare.de/files/3056368/h...ds300.wmv.html
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=281F4JGC

**Savio** · 07-24-2005, 02:47 AM

cut off at the highest point of his career.

**Savio** · 07-24-2005, 02:54 AM

Wow if it happend on a day earlier or a day later he could have gotten off.....Fuck Terrorists. WWE should have just cut the post match out and the little Promo right before the match

07-23-2005, 02:40 AM	#137
TerranRich Herp a derp, and so on Posts: 8,830	Whoops, wrong thread. Last edited by TerranRich; 07-23-2005 at 03:38 AM.

07-23-2005, 06:37 PM	#144
CYCLOPTERSAURUS devastationstudios.com Posts: 2,362	Corkscrewed is absolutely right about everything. If they have to ditch the character, that storyline idea would be fantastic. All this controversy is just so perfect to feed the character, but to drop him entirely is outrageous. EDIT: It'd be great if somebody had that Hassan speech from WWE.com on one of those download services or something. Streaming video from WWE.com doesn't work for me for some reason. Last edited by CYCLOPTERSAURUS; 07-23-2005 at 07:33 PM.

07-22-2005, 06:41 PM	#121
Batsu Capcom's Corporate Champ Posts: 2,571	Excellent post by Corkscrewed. The removal of Hassan just might end up turning him face. But no matter how they repackage him, his entrances won't be the same without... ALAAAAYAAAAAYLEEAAAA LAAAAAYLEEAAAAAAA LAAAAYAAYAYAYAYE...

07-22-2005, 06:50 PM	#122
Volchok L.G. Fuad Posts: 4,834	This thread has now been Hassan'd...

07-22-2005, 06:53 PM	#123
vampiro03 nothin's for sure Posts: 615	people were chanting against him because he was a heel. DUH. the "interview" was in charactor. he stayed in character the whole time. people who are pissed because he got booed, HE IS A HEEL. it sucks though. i loved to hate him. wwe needs to set up something with usa to let the hassan charactor on, when they move.

07-22-2005, 08:51 PM	#127
Bricktop your nemesis Posts: 2,023	If they were to bring the men that strangled the undertaker and carried off divari, then unmask them to show that they are other wrestlers on the roster and not terrorists, would this reduce heat on Hassan? The masked men could be for example Charlie haas, mark jindrak, luthor reigns, or some other jobbers that the UT has crushed in the last few years. It would make perfect sense that these men wanted revenge on the undertaker. They could base a whole future smackdown show on who the mystery men are and slowly reveal them one by one, as the show goes on. They could leave the final one to turn out to be randy Orton at GAB, where he costs UT the match. This would screw up the whole argument that this was a terrorists angle, with the masked men turning out to be white/American wrestlers and not men of Arab descent.

07-22-2005, 08:53 PM	#128
Danny Electric dirty irani Posts: 11,956	You just know that he'll come out as corky said but they'll still chant 'usa'

07-22-2005, 09:36 PM	#129
Loose Cannon I'm all there is Posts: 31,811	I stll can't believe this shit. Just like that. Gone. I seriously hope the WWE is not going to end the whole dam thing. Just keep him off TV for a while and let him come back, even on Raw if they have too. But sending him back to OVW is a slap in the face to the guy and Daivari, who have basically busted thier asses to get both characters over as one of the best two heels going today. The whole thing is a fucking joke.

07-22-2005, 09:41 PM	#130
The One Boss Posts: 17,611	Vince: Hi come in Mark...well here's the deal. Good work on getting Hassan over, I mean you single handedly took a somewhat stupid angle and turned it into one of the best heel characters by showing the audience their own stupidity. So since you did so well with the character, everyone is giving you alot of heat, so we're going to move you back down to OVW and you can back in a few months when those fickle fans forget you. Bye.

07-22-2005, 09:55 PM	#131
Loose Cannon I'm all there is Posts: 31,811	If I was the WWE right now and I had no choice but to end the character, I would turn this whole thing around and make Hassan the a huge babyface and do that by getting the audience to sympahtize with him. Show his other "life" outside of the ring. Not like a real life, but a fake other life, where he's helping children in the hospital, he's partaking in charity events, he's helping the homeless. And then show people being prejudice to him at times and people will start to realize why he is the way he is when he's in the wrestling ring. And you show these "videos" while he's away for a while. Maybe have him start to become more accepting of American society and start to realize he might have been wrong at times too. Just do something

07-22-2005, 10:33 PM	#134
Shadow Shadow Conspircy leader Posts: 18,582	You better tell us what they say back Loopy.

07-22-2005, 10:39 PM	#135
Savio Spammy Certified Posts: 46,132	They never write back.

07-22-2005, 10:45 PM	#136
KingofOldSchool ...IN HD!!!! Posts: 23,327	They will probably not even read it and just send some generic email back to him. Maybe they'll send him an autographed 8x10 of Triple H.

07-23-2005, 03:29 AM	#138
Mr. Nerfect Posts: 61,634	Seriously, get Muhammad Hassan to come out at The Great American Bash, and have a video play of people in his community that have nothing but good things to say about Hassan. Like LC said, show him donating stuff, show playing with his kids, and being proud that they're getting good marks at school. Show people saying that the media is wrong for crucifying him because he is Arab-American. Have him then come out, and cut a promo where he tears into the media, tears into management (about how they've made him into a "terrorist"), etc. Have him say he supports the troops in Iraq, is proud to have been born in America, to have received an American education, to earn American money, to eat American food, and to perform in a wrestling ring. He is proud of his heritage, and if that makes him a terrorist, it is the media and the fans that are un-American, not him.

07-23-2005, 05:03 PM	#142
freerock1.com Frequent Lurker Posts: 30	I had actually thought of the same kind of thing as Alienoid06, making Hassan into a flag-waver. But I've also gotta give props to Corkscrewed's idea.

07-23-2005, 05:21 PM	#143
DominateR Guest Posts: n/a	I agree with whoever it was said keep hassan and daivari off tv until a deal is reached with the network that SD! goes to in fall of 06/spring of 07, and try to get him on the show on a different network...this way it'll give us all just a little bit of time to think about people besides hassan and daivari

07-24-2005, 02:47 AM	#147
Savio Spammy Certified Posts: 46,132	cut off at the highest point of his career.

07-24-2005, 02:54 AM	#148
Savio Spammy Certified Posts: 46,132	Wow if it happend on a day earlier or a day later he could have gotten off.....Fuck Terrorists. WWE should have just cut the post match out and the little Promo right before the match