MLB 2005-2006 Offseason Thread - Page 4

**The Miz** · 10-31-2005, 03:57 PM

I don't watch NL at all really but I'm sure there's a catcher that hits better than .275/15/70 or whatever

**The Miz** · 10-31-2005, 03:58 PM

A's re-signed Jay Witasick today.

Crappy offseason for them so far

**VonErich Lives** · 10-31-2005, 05:44 PM

Report is Theo Epstein has resigned. Contacts up at midnight and he's cleaning out his desk now.

Money doesn't appear to be the big issue.

The "big issue".

The 2nd bigest "owner" of the Red Sox is the Boston Globe, they ran some stories the past few days that basiclly made Larry Lucchino look good and Theo Look bad.

Good for Theo and great job Larry letting the assistant GM go when you didn't have the current GM locked up.

**YOUR Hero** · 10-31-2005, 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Miz

I don't watch NL at all really but I'm sure there's a catcher that hits better than .275/15/70 or whatever

Not really, in fact not really in the AL either.

Piazza had 19 HRS, but his time at 1B would exclude him (I guess) from winning the award.

If you look at the AL, 20 HRs was about the max (22 for Varitek) and 80 RBIs. There's more depth ( better offensive catchers in the AL right now), but the numbers all around weren't all that impressive.

**Supreme Olajuwon** · 10-31-2005, 09:41 PM

Both Reds catchers put up the same numbers as Barrett in fewer games. Barrett was really the only full timer to have slighty better than mediocre numbers.

**The Miz** · 10-31-2005, 10:21 PM

I wonder who the new Boston GM will be. DePodesta? Dare I say Kevin Towers?

**YOUR Hero** · 10-31-2005, 10:27 PM

Catching is traditionally a weak position offensively. This past year was more the norm than some of the prior years. There's always going to be some guys that do well, and other times, some that do really well.

Not that Yahoo stats are the 'be-all and end-all' of stats, but they are a decent barometer. The top rated catcher this past year (Victor Martinez) was rated #160 overall in terms of offense output at the end of the year.

Name	Action	Opp	O-Rank	Rank	H/AB	R	HR	RBI	SB	AVG	OPS
V. Martínez (Cle - C)	Add		93	160	167/547	73	20	80	0	.305	.853

**BCWWF** · 10-31-2005, 11:36 PM

Joe Mauer is on the way

**Joey Slugs** · 10-31-2005, 11:42 PM

1,300 fans voted in this year's Internet Baseball Awards. Who took home the hardware in the American League? > >

**Joey Slugs** · 10-31-2005, 11:45 PM

here is Victor Martinez's PC over @ BP.com

**VonErich Lives** · 11-01-2005, 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Miz

I wonder who the new Boston GM will be. DePodesta? Dare I say Kevin Towers?

The only name really being mentioned is Towers.

The funny thing would be if Towers came here and then Theo went there.

2 current "schools of thought" on Theo.

1) He really does take a year off, maybe does something private sector, I think he has a Law Degree from Yale (imagine the Sports Agent he could make).

2) He goes for another GM job, the top spot being mentioned is the Dodgers, he'd want to go to a team with money to spend, McCourt is the owner and is also from Brookline (where Theo grew up) and there's Rumors that McCourt has already tried to reach out to him.

I don't blame Theo, I actually pat him on the back for what he did and the reasons why.

**Joey Slugs** · 11-01-2005, 12:39 PM

We wrap up the results of the Internet Baseball Awards with a look at who took home the hardware in the National League. > >

**The Miz** · 11-01-2005, 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joey Slugs

1,300 fans voted in this year's Internet Baseball Awards. Who took home the hardware in the American League? > >

All the winners are correct. LOL @ Macha getting 5th in managing though

**Joey Slugs** · 11-01-2005, 04:01 PM

rumors are flying that Theo Epstien is in LA for a meeting with the Dodgers for their GM opening.

**The Miz** · 11-01-2005, 04:11 PM

Daisuke Matzusaka was not posted, but Kenji Jojima declared free agency and is going to play in MLB. He's a better hitter than any other FA catcher but the language thing is going to be a problem.

**Joey Slugs** · 11-01-2005, 04:20 PM

Tuesday, November 1
WHO	INTERESTED	THE SKINNY
Los Angeles		Does Theo love L.A.? Nov 1 - It's unknown whether free-agent GM Theo Epstein has an interest in the Dodgers' GM vacancy or if the Dodgers will pursue Epstein, according to the Los Angeles Times. While owner Frank McCourt is a Boston native who originally tried to buy the Red Sox before the Dodgers, the team has yet to comment on Epstein. Meanwhile, there's speculation that Epstein, 31, will take a year off before searching for another job. The Dodgers have received permission to speak to Pat Gillick, who is also a leading candidate for the Phillies' job. Other probable candidates include former Dodgers ace Orel Hershiser, former Astros GM Gerry Hunsicker, Dodgers assistant GM Kim Ng, former Rangers and Indians GM John Hart, Nationals GM Jim Bowden and White Sox special advisor Dennis Gilbert.
WHO	INTERESTED	THE SKINNY
Boston		From Epstein to Towers? Nov 1 - According to the Boston Globe, one possible successor to Theo Epstein as Red Sox GM could be the Padres' Kevin Towers. In 1995, when Red Sox president Larry Lucchino was running the Padres, he promoted Towers from scouting director to GM, a job he's held ever since. Although Towers has a year left on his contract in San Diego, Towers was recently given permission to interview for the Arizona job, which went to former Red Sox assistant Josh Byrnes. In addition, ESPN's Peter Gammons said Gerry Hunsicker is likely to be a strong candidate.
WHO	INTERESTED	THE SKINNY
Philadelphia		Is it Gillick in Philly? Nov 1 - According to the Philadelphia Inquirer, the Phillies are unlikely to interview Theo Epstein, who resigned as the Red Sox GM on Monday. Apparently, Phillies president David Montgomery has narrowed his search to two candidates -- Pat Gillick and Gerry Hunsicker. Gillick is reportedly considered the front-runner. Sources said Montgomery wants to hire someone outside the organization and wants to have his new hire in place before next week's GM meetings. Gillick, who won two titles in Toronto, is also likely to interview in L.A. Other candidates who've been interviewed for the Phillies' job are Indians assistant GM Chris Antonetti and Phillies assistants Ruben Amaro Jr. and Mike Arbuckle.
WHO	INTERESTED	THE SKINNY
Tampa Bay		Rays' cut-down day Nov 1 - The St. Petersburg Times reported that the Devil Rays appear to be closing in on Gerry Hunsicker as their next GM. Hunsicker, the former Astros GM, is also a candidate for the Phillies' job. They've also apparently cut their managerial candidates to a short list that's expected to include Angels bench coach Joe Maddon, current bench coach John McLaren and former Rangers and Mets manager Bobby Valentine.
WHO	INTERESTED	THE SKINNY
Bengie Molina Angels	Mets	Mets eye Molina Nov 1 - The Mets have already shown interest in free-agent-to-be Bengie Molina as a successor to Mike Piazza, according to the New York Post. Alan Nero, Molina's agent, said he has spoken to Mets GM Omar Minaya. Molina, whose spent his entire career with the Angels, is coming off his best season and is expected to be one of the best-available catchers in free agency. He hit .295 with 15 home runs and 69 RBI and threw out 31 percent of all runners who attempted to steal against him.
WHO	INTERESTED	THE SKINNY
Rafael Furcal Braves	Cubs Mets	Big Apple beckons? Nov 1 - Furcal's agent told the New York Daily News that free agent shortstop would be interested in playing second base for the Mets alongside shortstop Jose Reyes. Kaz Matsui still has one year and $8 million left on his contract, but the Mets are still pursuing second base options. And Furcal has experience playing second base during winter ball. In addition, Furcal's brother and extended family live in the Bronx. Furcal and his agent meet with the Braves on Wednesday, but he may be too pricey to keep. The Cubs are also expected to bid for Furcal.
WHO	INTERESTED	THE SKINNY
Hideki Matsui Yankees		The clock is ticking Nov 1 - Negotiations between the Yankees and Arn Tellem, Matsui's agent, are expected to heat up next week during the GM meetings in Palm Springs, according to the New York Post. If the Yankees can't reach a deal with Matsui before midnight on Nov. 15, he will become a free agent, and the Yankees will be unable to negotiate with him until May. "The GM meetings will be when we get into it," Tellem said. "Obviously, Hideki would like to work something out with the Yankees." Matsui, 31, is coming off a three-year deal worth $21 million. During the three years, Matsui didn't miss a game and hit .297 with 70 home runs and 330 RBI.
WHO	INTERESTED	THE SKINNY
Trevor Hoffman Padres		No closer to deal Nov 1 - According to the San Diego Union-Tribune, Hoffman and the San Diego Padres are far apart in their initial talks regarding a new contract. While the Padres offered a two-year, $10M deal, the veteran closer is expected to counter with a three-year deal worth around $25M. The Padres can negotiate with Hoffman until Nov. 11, when he becomes a free agent. Hoffman, 38, is second on the all-time list of save leaders.
WHO	INTERESTED	THE SKINNY
Colorado		Making their pitch Nov 1 - According to the Denver Post, Rockies GM Dan O'Dowd will aggressively pursue pitching help with around $9 million to spend. Among the pitchers are their short list are Pedro Astacio, Shawn Estes, Jason Johnson, Rick Helling and Elmer Dessens.

**The Miz** · 11-01-2005, 06:32 PM

AL gold gloves

P Kenny Rogers
C Jason Varitek
1B Mark Teixiera
2B Orlando Hudson
3B Eric Chavez
SS Derek Jeter

OF Ichiro
OF Vernon Wells
OF Torii Hunter

SS and OF is fucked up. The best outfielder in baseball is still yet to win one.

**Evil Vito** · 11-01-2005, 09:45 PM

WTF Jeter

**BCWWF** · 11-01-2005, 10:44 PM

Are you referring to Vlad?

**YOUR Hero** · 11-02-2005, 09:52 AM

Vlad?

LoL, no.

As much as I love the guy, he's a bit of a liability. Great speed and a great arm, but sometimes he's not all together with it.

He could be. But he isn't.

**Supreme Olajuwon** · 11-02-2005, 11:30 AM

Catalanotto should've won a gold glove over Hunter but I dunno if that's who the Miz is referring to or not.

Vernon deserves it more than anyone

**VonErich Lives** · 11-02-2005, 12:42 PM

Good to see Teck finally get one.

**VonErich Lives** · 11-02-2005, 12:46 PM

So, latest Manny rumor.

3 way deal.

Manny goes to the Angels.

Red Sox get Glaus, Erstad and a prospect or two.

I don't know the rest of the details of this "rumor".

get a prospect, fill a hole at 1B and 3B, not s huge power drop from Manny to Glaus, free's up a little money and hopefully allows Damon to be resigned.

**The Miz** · 11-02-2005, 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Miz

The best outfielder in baseball is still yet to win one.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/k/kotsama01.shtml

**The Miz** · 11-02-2005, 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YOUR Hero

Vlad?

LoL, no.

As much as I love the guy, he's a bit of a liability. Great speed and a great arm, but sometimes he's not all together with it.

He could be. But he isn't.

Vlad's fundementals are down there with Manny. It's a shame cuz he has one of the top 5 strongest arms in baseball but costs the Angels tons of runs throwing to the wrong base and overthrwoing

**The Miz** · 11-02-2005, 03:37 PM

Aaaaand Matt lawton tests + for roids. It's a dissapointment if this is the AL playoff outfielder they were talking about.

**Evil Vito** · 11-02-2005, 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Miz

Aaaaand Matt lawton tests + for roids. It's a dissapointment if this is the AL playoff outfielder they were talking about.

Nah, I don't think he even was on the Yanks roster come playoffs

It still has the potential to be a disappointment though if it's Crosby or something

**BCWWF** · 11-02-2005, 03:47 PM

I thought Lawton was on the Indians...or the Pirates...or one of those places?

**Joey Slugs** · 11-02-2005, 04:02 PM

Torii plays a little over half a season and still gets a gold glove? Fuck. Rowand got screwed. Ask the Yankees if he deserves one.

**Joey Slugs** · 11-02-2005, 04:06 PM

ESPN.com - MLB - Epstein explains exit, says he's OK with Lucchino

**The Miz** · 11-02-2005, 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BCWWF

I thought Lawton was on the Indians...or the Pirates...or one of those places?

Started the year with Pirates (traded by Cle for Arthur Rhodes in offseason)
Traded to Cubs for Jody Gerut
Traded to Yankees for prospects

**BCWWF** · 11-02-2005, 04:42 PM

Besides being consistant, the plays Torii makes are plays that only Torii can make. He can go any direction, and even in his short season robbed a few home runs. I understand it not being fair because he only played half a year, but he is definately the top outfielder defensively in the AL, if not in the whole game.

**Loose Cannon** · 11-02-2005, 05:42 PM

LOL @ Lawton.

**Evil Vito** · 11-02-2005, 08:10 PM

NL Gold Gloves:

P - Greg Maddux
C - Mike Matheny
1B - Derrek Lee
2B - Luis Castillo
SS - Omar Vizquel
3B - Mike Lowell
OF - Andruw Jones
OF - Jim Edmonds
OF - Bobby Abreu

**RoXer** · 11-02-2005, 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VonErich Lives

Red Sox get Glaus

So then what do the D-Backs get?

**OssMan** · 11-02-2005, 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Vito 22

NL Gold Gloves:

P - Greg Maddux
C - Mike Matheny
1B - Derrek Lee
2B - Luis Castillo
SS - Omar Vizquel
3B - Mike Lowell
OF - Andruw Jones
OF - Jim Edmonds
OF - Bobby Abreu

lol

11-03-2005, 12:14 AM

good to see O-Dog finally get his due. Jays are probably gonna trade him now though

**VonErich Lives** · 11-03-2005, 04:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joey RoXer

So then what do the D-Backs get?

Quote:

Originally Posted by VonErich Lives

I don't know the rest of the details of this "rumor".

My assumption is that Manny goes to the Angels.

Also, there was talk about their being 2 prospects going to boston.

But yes, I've yet to hear a mention of what the D-backs are getting.

I'd guess prospects, or lower priced players since payroll tends to be an issue for them.

**YOUR Hero** · 11-03-2005, 10:04 AM

Manny, I believe, will be traded for less than market value. If he's traded. Red Sox aren't in a strong bargaining position here.

**Supreme Olajuwon** · 11-03-2005, 11:11 AM

Carl Lindner is selling his ownership of the Reds. WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

10-31-2005, 11:42 PM	#129
Joey Slugs Second City Saint Posts: 5,806	Internet Baseball Awards (AL) @ Baseball Prospectus.com 1,300 fans voted in this year's Internet Baseball Awards. Who took home the hardware in the American League? > > Last edited by Joey Slugs; 11-01-2005 at 12:01 AM.

11-01-2005, 12:39 PM	#132
Joey Slugs Second City Saint Posts: 5,806	Internet Baseball Awards (NL) @ Baseball Prospectus.com We wrap up the results of the Internet Baseball Awards with a look at who took home the hardware in the National League. > >

11-02-2005, 09:52 AM	#140
YOUR Hero Adminstigator Posts: 102,491	Vlad? LoL, no. As much as I love the guy, he's a bit of a liability. Great speed and a great arm, but sometimes he's not all together with it. He could be. But he isn't. Last edited by YOUR Hero; 11-02-2005 at 10:06 AM.

10-31-2005, 03:57 PM	#121
The Miz Clutch Poster Posts: 11,997	I don't watch NL at all really but I'm sure there's a catcher that hits better than .275/15/70 or whatever

10-31-2005, 03:58 PM	#122
The Miz Clutch Poster Posts: 11,997	A's re-signed Jay Witasick today. Crappy offseason for them so far

10-31-2005, 05:44 PM	#123
VonErich Lives WTF do you want? Posts: 14,760	Report is Theo Epstein has resigned. Contacts up at midnight and he's cleaning out his desk now. Money doesn't appear to be the big issue. The "big issue". The 2nd bigest "owner" of the Red Sox is the Boston Globe, they ran some stories the past few days that basiclly made Larry Lucchino look good and Theo Look bad. Good for Theo and great job Larry letting the assistant GM go when you didn't have the current GM locked up.

10-31-2005, 09:41 PM	#125
Supreme Olajuwon You know that�s right Posts: 52,759	Both Reds catchers put up the same numbers as Barrett in fewer games. Barrett was really the only full timer to have slighty better than mediocre numbers.

10-31-2005, 10:21 PM	#126
The Miz Clutch Poster Posts: 11,997	I wonder who the new Boston GM will be. DePodesta? Dare I say Kevin Towers?

10-31-2005, 11:36 PM	#128
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	Joe Mauer is on the way

10-31-2005, 11:45 PM	#130
Joey Slugs Second City Saint Posts: 5,806	here is Victor Martinez's PC over @ BP.com

11-01-2005, 04:01 PM	#134
Joey Slugs Second City Saint Posts: 5,806	rumors are flying that Theo Epstien is in LA for a meeting with the Dodgers for their GM opening.

11-01-2005, 04:11 PM	#135
The Miz Clutch Poster Posts: 11,997	Daisuke Matzusaka was not posted, but Kenji Jojima declared free agency and is going to play in MLB. He's a better hitter than any other FA catcher but the language thing is going to be a problem.

11-01-2005, 06:32 PM	#137
The Miz Clutch Poster Posts: 11,997	AL gold gloves P Kenny Rogers C Jason Varitek 1B Mark Teixiera 2B Orlando Hudson 3B Eric Chavez SS Derek Jeter OF Ichiro OF Vernon Wells OF Torii Hunter SS and OF is fucked up. The best outfielder in baseball is still yet to win one.

11-01-2005, 09:45 PM	#138
Evil Vito President of Freedonia Posts: 58,329	WTF Jeter

11-01-2005, 10:44 PM	#139
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	Are you referring to Vlad?

11-02-2005, 11:30 AM	#141
Supreme Olajuwon You know that�s right Posts: 52,759	Catalanotto should've won a gold glove over Hunter but I dunno if that's who the Miz is referring to or not. Vernon deserves it more than anyone

11-02-2005, 12:42 PM	#142
VonErich Lives WTF do you want? Posts: 14,760	Good to see Teck finally get one.

11-02-2005, 12:46 PM	#143
VonErich Lives WTF do you want? Posts: 14,760	So, latest Manny rumor. 3 way deal. Manny goes to the Angels. Red Sox get Glaus, Erstad and a prospect or two. I don't know the rest of the details of this "rumor". get a prospect, fill a hole at 1B and 3B, not s huge power drop from Manny to Glaus, free's up a little money and hopefully allows Damon to be resigned.

11-02-2005, 03:37 PM	#146
The Miz Clutch Poster Posts: 11,997	Aaaaand Matt lawton tests + for roids. It's a dissapointment if this is the AL playoff outfielder they were talking about.

11-02-2005, 03:47 PM	#148
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	I thought Lawton was on the Indians...or the Pirates...or one of those places?

11-02-2005, 04:02 PM	#149
Joey Slugs Second City Saint Posts: 5,806	Torii plays a little over half a season and still gets a gold glove? Fuck. Rowand got screwed. Ask the Yankees if he deserves one.

11-02-2005, 04:06 PM	#150
Joey Slugs Second City Saint Posts: 5,806	ESPN.com - MLB - Epstein explains exit, says he's OK with Lucchino

11-02-2005, 04:42 PM	#152
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	Besides being consistant, the plays Torii makes are plays that only Torii can make. He can go any direction, and even in his short season robbed a few home runs. I understand it not being fair because he only played half a year, but he is definately the top outfielder defensively in the AL, if not in the whole game.

11-02-2005, 05:42 PM	#153
Loose Cannon I'm all there is Posts: 31,811	LOL @ Lawton.

11-02-2005, 08:10 PM	#154
Evil Vito President of Freedonia Posts: 58,329	NL Gold Gloves: P - Greg Maddux C - Mike Matheny 1B - Derrek Lee 2B - Luis Castillo SS - Omar Vizquel 3B - Mike Lowell OF - Andruw Jones OF - Jim Edmonds OF - Bobby Abreu

11-03-2005, 12:14 AM	#157
Gertner Guest Posts: n/a	good to see O-Dog finally get his due. Jays are probably gonna trade him now though

11-03-2005, 10:04 AM	#159
YOUR Hero Adminstigator Posts: 102,491	Manny, I believe, will be traded for less than market value. If he's traded. Red Sox aren't in a strong bargaining position here.

11-03-2005, 11:11 AM	#160
Supreme Olajuwon You know that�s right Posts: 52,759	Carl Lindner is selling his ownership of the Reds. WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO