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Old 10-23-2005, 10:57 PM   #1
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Old 10-23-2005, 10:57 PM   #2
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Old 10-23-2005, 10:58 PM   #3
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Old 10-23-2005, 10:58 PM   #4
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Team 3D comes in and beats the hell outta Planet Jarrett and Canada. Rhino out of the coffin, cleaning house with everyone.
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Old 10-23-2005, 10:58 PM   #5
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Old 10-23-2005, 10:59 PM   #6
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Nice Face ending. I liked it. The Man-Beast is the champion folks. This has been a RemyRed play by play thread. (c)2005
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Old 10-23-2005, 11:01 PM   #7
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Well not TNA, but thier World Title seen
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Old 10-23-2005, 11:01 PM   #8
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And LC said the Dudleys wouldn't show.
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Old 10-23-2005, 11:06 PM   #9
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And LC said the Dudleys wouldn't show.
that's what Fritz from BTR said He's always the man at kowing things

Anyway, what did that do long term wise? TNA has just switched there World Title 3 times in like 2 months. They "hot shotted" this just to please people watchng the show. Not a good idea. Never works. Now you've wasted a HUGE Title win from one of TNA's young guys, you put the belt on a guy that's not remotely a star at all and you lost a lot of cred to the Belt.

But hey, nobody saw that coming so it's great, right?
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Old 10-23-2005, 11:12 PM   #10
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that's what Fritz from BTR said He's always the man at kowing things

Anyway, what did that do long term wise? TNA has just switched there World Title 3 times in like 2 months. They "hot shotted" this just to please people watchng the show. Not a good idea. Never works. Now you've wasted a HUGE Title win from one of TNA's young guys, you put the belt on a guy that's not remotely a star at all and you lost a lot of cred to the Belt.

But hey, nobody saw that coming so it's great, right?
Rhino's not a star?

When they brought him in they booked him as a star.

His first TNA Pay Per View was the main event.

He just beat 2 guys built as TNA main eventers in Hardy and Abyss.

Not to mention he's a former ECW WORLD Champion.

So how is he not REMOTLEY a star?

I mean I agree with you that Jarrett should have won the match at all, and patch working a championship win isn't a good idea. But let's not go crazy Rhino in the TNA world is a viable World Heavyweight Champion.
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Old 10-23-2005, 11:13 PM   #11
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that's what Fritz from BTR said He's always the man at kowing things

Anyway, what did that do long term wise? TNA has just switched there World Title 3 times in like 2 months. They "hot shotted" this just to please people watchng the show. Not a good idea. Never works. Now you've wasted a HUGE Title win from one of TNA's young guys, you put the belt on a guy that's not remotely a star at all and you lost a lot of cred to the Belt.

But hey, nobody saw that coming so it's great, right?
Why ya bitching at me? I didn't say it was a good thing. The booking has no long term direction, and in the long term TNA will fail just as soon as the new car smell wheres off for the casual viewer.
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Old 10-23-2005, 11:15 PM   #12
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Why ya bitching at me? I didn't say it was a good thing. The booking has no long term direction, and in the long term TNA will fail just as soon as the new car smell wheres off for the casual viewer.
I wasn't bitching at you. I just didn't feel like doing two posts
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Old 10-23-2005, 11:01 PM   #13
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I must say this. When TNA advertises a 3 hour PPV, at least they don't end it 20 minutes early like WWE has had a bad habit of doing. I know it may seem stingy of me, but those 20 minutes could be used to extend each undercard match a few minutes.
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Old 10-23-2005, 11:02 PM   #14
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Old 10-23-2005, 11:02 PM   #15
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That's odd booking there, but I think that goes to show you anyone can win it in TNA. At least Jarrett doesn't have the title.
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Old 10-23-2005, 11:02 PM   #16
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Old 10-23-2005, 11:02 PM   #17
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Old 10-23-2005, 11:04 PM   #18
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Yeah, why would anyone want to bitch about Rhino's title win? It shows that they're at least not THAT dependant on the typical formula.
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Old 10-23-2005, 11:05 PM   #19
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Not complaining but it was obvious this was all patched together with tape at the last minute.
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Old 10-23-2005, 11:08 PM   #20
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Not complaining but it was obvious this was all patched together with tape at the last minute.
well they had too with nass geting hurt again i wonder if jeff was going to job to nash.
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Old 10-23-2005, 11:11 PM   #21
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Wasn't this supposed to be TNA's big WrestleMania-like PPV?

This was just one huge massive joke.
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Old 10-23-2005, 11:12 PM   #22
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Old 10-23-2005, 11:13 PM   #23
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Nash didnt belong in this Main Event. He's old and done. Atleast Hogan can draw cheering crowds. Nash is just a peice of crap.
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Old 10-23-2005, 11:14 PM   #24
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LOL, your "He's a Former ECW Champion" line just lost you the argument right there. The company was down the tubes by the time he won the belt anyway

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LOL, you're "He's a Former ECW Champion" line just lost you the argument right there. The company was down the tubes by the time he won the belt anyway

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Yeah, since ECW never meant anything to anybody.
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Old 10-23-2005, 11:26 PM   #26
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Yeah, since ECW never meant anything to anybody.
Oh it did, to a very very very little minority. Were you surprised the buyrate for the One Night Stand got a pretty low number?
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Old 10-23-2005, 11:38 PM   #27
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Oh it did, to a very very very little minority. Were you surprised the buyrate for the One Night Stand got a pretty low number?
Wrestling fans in general are quite a minority in the first place.

The influence ECW had on WWF and WCW back in the late 90's is enough, on it's own, to show the importance of ECW to professional wrestling. Not to mention the immense sales for THE RISE AND FALL OF ECW, nor the contributions of Steve Austin, Rob Van Dam, Eddie Guerrero, Chris Benoit, Rey Mysterio, Dean Malenko, Raven, Chris Jericho, Jerry Lynn, Super Crazy, Tajiri, and the new NWA World Heavyweight Champion, Rhino - all of whom made their names and got their foot in the door through ECW.

Don't underestimate the importance of ECW on the landscape of wrestling today.
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Old 10-23-2005, 11:46 PM   #28
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Wrestling fans in general are quite a minority in the first place.
What does this have to do with anything? We are discussing wrestling fans as a whole. And out of that whole, most people didn't watch nor pay attention to ECW. Especially in 1999, which is what I was arguing in the first place and then you took the arguement to argue the whole ECW

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The influence ECW had on WWF and WCW back in the late 90's is enough, on it's own, to show the importance of ECW to professional wrestling. Not to mention the immense sales for THE RISE AND FALL OF ECW, nor the contributions of Steve Austin, Rob Van Dam, Eddie Guerrero, Chris Benoit, Rey Mysterio, Dean Malenko, Raven, Chris Jericho, Jerry Lynn, Super Crazy, Tajiri, and the new NWA World Heavyweight Champion, Rhino - all of whom made their names and got their foot in the door through ECW.

Don't underestimate the importance of ECW on the landscape of wrestling today.
I never said it wasn't "influential" All I was saying with my comment towards Rhino being an ECW Champion that it's not something to brag about, especially when nobody was even watchng in at the time. But again, you took the arguement to argue ECW as a whole again. When did I talk about ECW and it's contributions to wrestling? I never even went there. I said very few people watched and they did. And spoke about Rhino's title reign.
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Wrestling fans in general are quite a minority in the first place.

The influence ECW had on WWF and WCW back in the late 90's is enough, on it's own, to show the importance of ECW to professional wrestling. Not to mention the immense sales for THE RISE AND FALL OF ECW, nor the contributions of Steve Austin, Rob Van Dam, Eddie Guerrero, Chris Benoit, Rey Mysterio, Dean Malenko, Raven, Chris Jericho, Jerry Lynn, Super Crazy, Tajiri, and the new NWA World Heavyweight Champion, Rhino - all of whom made their names and got their foot in the door through ECW.

Don't underestimate the importance of ECW on the landscape of wrestling today.
Not to sound like a kiss ass, but are you seriously trying to kick knowledge to Loose Cannon?

This has nothing to do with ECW or its contribution to the evolution of professional wrestling. This has to do with the fact that Rhino (who got over in ECW while it was on its very last days and should never even be mentioned in the same sentence as guys like Shane Douglas, Taz, Sabu, RVD, etc) wasn;t that over in the WWE, came over and got "OMG! WE STOLE A GUY FROM VINCE" pops for a month or so, and is now getting very lukewarm responses from TNA crowds. Two weeks ago on Impact, when all four Monsters Ball competitors were in the ring, Rhino was getting the l;east response.

Taking the belt was a bad move, and to comound it they picked the least over 'main eventer' they have in the company. (this could of course have been another brilliant plott by JJ to somehow show the bookers how much they need to keep the belt on him at all times)
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Exactly what would you have done to make the situation any better?

The main eventer facing the World Champion is injured two days before the show. Kevin Nash, as a former WCW and WWF World Champion, was apparently credible enough to win the belt, but without him, TNA had no choice but to make some kind of a decision.

If not Rhino, who else? There is no one else with enough credibility to even be called the World Champion at this juncture in TNA's arrival to the main stream - Raven is being set up for a run down the road, AJ Styles is the X Division champion, Jeff Hardy couldn't carry the belt, and Monty Brown and Lance Hoyt just aren't over enough yet.

The only other route they could have taken was to allow Jeff Jarrett to walk out of Bound For Glory with the World Title intact. That would be like Hulk Hogan and Mr.T jobbing for Roddy Piper and Paul Orndorff at WrestleMania - they're trying to start a reputation for BFG as their own biggest show of the year - and they needed a happy ending.

Like I said, what would you have done differently?
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Exactly what would you have done to make the situation any better?

The main eventer facing the World Champion is injured two days before the show. Kevin Nash, as a former WCW and WWF World Champion, was apparently credible enough to win the belt, but without him, TNA had no choice but to make some kind of a decision.

If not Rhino, who else? There is no one else with enough credibility to even be called the World Champion at this juncture in TNA's arrival to the main stream - Raven is being set up for a run down the road, AJ Styles is the X Division champion, Jeff Hardy couldn't carry the belt, and Monty Brown and Lance Hoyt just aren't over enough yet.

The only other route they could have taken was to allow Jeff Jarrett to walk out of Bound For Glory with the World Title intact. That would be like Hulk Hogan and Mr.T jobbing for Roddy Piper and Paul Orndorff at WrestleMania - they're trying to start a reputation for BFG as their own biggest show of the year - and they needed a happy ending.

Like I said, what would you have done differently?
Monty Brown was the one to put it on tonight.
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Monty Brown was the one to put it on tonight.
Oh yeah, I know I want a guy who fucking sniffs people to be my champion. Fuck that. He needs to drop some of the more animalistic traits to his gimmick if you ask me. Brown is not credible enough yet.
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Oh yeah, I know I want a guy who fucking sniffs people to be my champion. Fuck that. He needs to drop some of the more animalistic traits to his gimmick if you ask me. Brown is not credible enough yet.
Didn't I tell you before to stop looking at wrestling through "YOUR EYES" Monty is an ex pro football player, is known by people outside wrestling, has charisma to cut a promo, is over with the crowd and not just the smarks and has looked rather strong in TNA; The Only place he's BEEN. He's one of the few guys that's over that's a homegrown talent.
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Didn't I tell you before to stop looking at wrestling through "YOUR EYES" Monty is an ex pro football player, is known by people outside wrestling, has charisma to cut a promo, is over with the crowd and not just the smarks and has looked rather strong in TNA; The Only place he's BEEN. He's one of the few guys that's over that's a homegrown talent.
Simply put: Rhino is more over.
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Exactly what would you have done to make the situation any better?

The main eventer facing the World Champion is injured two days before the show. Kevin Nash, as a former WCW and WWF World Champion, was apparently credible enough to win the belt, but without him, TNA had no choice but to make some kind of a decision.

If not Rhino, who else? There is no one else with enough credibility to even be called the World Champion at this juncture in TNA's arrival to the main stream - Raven is being set up for a run down the road, AJ Styles is the X Division champion, Jeff Hardy couldn't carry the belt, and Monty Brown and Lance Hoyt just aren't over enough yet.

The only other route they could have taken was to allow Jeff Jarrett to walk out of Bound For Glory with the World Title intact. That would be like Hulk Hogan and Mr.T jobbing for Roddy Piper and Paul Orndorff at WrestleMania - they're trying to start a reputation for BFG as their own biggest show of the year - and they needed a happy ending.

Like I said, what would you have done differently?

Let's not compare Wrestlemania to a TNA PPV. Cause I'm sure nobody other then hardcore TNA fans would of realized this was BIG DEAL.

I'm almost positive JJ would of retained here setting up JJ/Raven at the next PPV, you know, the storyline they've actually been pushing. But that's all fucked now.

Meltzer is saying what I was saying about them not wanting to shit on the fans that ordered and came to the show because of Nash not being able to wrestle, so they did a surprise ending. I get that, but 'hot shotting" shit never works. And if they were putting the Title on somebody, why in the fuck didn't it go on Raven. It goes to Rhino, a guy who's remebered by most fans for.....well nothing really. He jobbed a lot on WWE TV I guess.

They had Styles, They had Joe, They had Monty. But it goes on Rhino. Yea, he'll sure put people in seats.

Like I said, stupid short term move for TNA and I swear if JJ wins it back real quick, I'm just gonna LMAO at this.
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Let's not compare Wrestlemania to a TNA PPV. Cause I'm sure nobody other then hardcore TNA fans would of realized this was BIG DEAL.

I'm almost positive JJ would of retained here setting up JJ/Raven at the next PPV, you know, the storyline they've actually been pushing. But that's all fucked now.

Meltzer is saying what I was saying about them not wanting to shit on the fans that ordered and came to the show because of Nash not being able to wrestle, so they did a surprise ending. I get that, but 'hot shotting" shit never works. And if they were putting the Title on somebody, why in the fuck didn't it go on Raven. It goes to Rhino, a guy who's remebered by most fans for.....well nothing really. He jobbed a lot on WWE TV I guess.

They had Styles, They had Joe, They had Monty. But it goes on Rhino. Yea, he'll sure put people in seats.

Like I said, stupid short term move for TNA and I swear if JJ wins it back real quick, I'm just gonna LMAO at this.
lmao @ hardcore TNA fan

Seriously, go to TNAWrestling.com right now...all their fans will talk about how it's the greatest PPV ever and smokes anything WWE has ever done.
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Let's not compare Wrestlemania to a TNA PPV. Cause I'm sure nobody other then hardcore TNA fans would of realized this was BIG DEAL.

I'm almost positive JJ would of retained here setting up JJ/Raven at the next PPV, you know, the storyline they've actually been pushing. But that's all fucked now.

Meltzer is saying what I was saying about them not wanting to shit on the fans that ordered and came to the show because of Nash not being able to wrestle, so they did a surprise ending. I get that, but 'hot shotting" shit never works. And if they were putting the Title on somebody, why in the fuck didn't it go on Raven. It goes to Rhino, a guy who's remebered by most fans for.....well nothing really. He jobbed a lot on WWE TV I guess.

They had Styles, They had Joe, They had Monty. But it goes on Rhino. Yea, he'll sure put people in seats.

Like I said, stupid short term move for TNA and I swear if JJ wins it back real quick, I'm just gonna LMAO at this.
Anyone who has watched an episode of Impact, or even anyone who ordered the PPV and heard the words "this is the super bowl of TNA" could have figured out it was the "BIG DEAL" PPV. They've made it pretty clear that this is the show they want to push the most - you don't need to be a "Hardcore TNA fan," as you put it, to understand that. You merely need ears and a working brain.

Actually, the primary angle they've recently been pushing is the arrival of Team 3D against Jarrett and AMW. In fact, I don't believe Raven has even been on Impact since the inception on Spike TV. But why scrutinize?

I agree, a Raven/Jarrett rematch is definitely in the works down the road, which is why it would have killed everything they've got going for them to have Raven/Jarrett in such a rushed fashion. I suppose they could have had the match, had Raven lose, done the whole coffin bit and had the same ending with 3D, but it would have made Raven look weak, thus, hurting the idea of a Raven/Jarrett match in the near future.

You didn't answer my question. What would you have done differently?
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Yea, he'll sure put people in seats.
Let's not forget what happened the last time those words were said regarding a title change.

Honestly, though, putting it on Rhino made some sense to me. We all know Jarrett won't be allowed to be without the gold for long, so he'll win it back at whatever-their-next-PPV-is. But a surprise title change will get people talking.

Any casual fan who didn't order tonight's PPV after thinking long and hard about it will be thinking "I didn't order the show because I didn't really care about Diesel and J-E-double-F J-A-double-R-E-double-T. Wait...who won the title? Huh. Kinda wish I'd seen that."

Rhino put on a good show tonight from what I've heard. The Monster's Ball match was put together well and got an awesome reaction from the crowd. The guy who wins that match is going to come off looking like a million bucks. Any one of those guys would have been a viable #1 contender in those fans' eyes, and he's the one who beat 'em all in the most brutal match TNA has. He beat Abyss twice tonight!

Yes, he jobbed in WWE. But, honestly, who hasn't (besides UT, Hogan, Austin, and HHH)? They could have brought in Chris Jericho, and we'd all be going nuts. But Jericho was jobbed just as bad as Rhino, and he did it in a much more high-profile manner.

Now Raven has even more to complain about. Not only was he screwed by AMW at the BCW show, now the Championship Committee doesn't even put him in the gauntlet? I don't think it has to be Raven vs. Jarrett for this storyline to continue. It's Raven vs. Zybysko. It's Raven vs. TNA. It's Raven vs. the world. What about Raven, right?

I, for one, can't wait until Impact to see how this all plays out.
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Let's not forget what happened the last time those words were said regarding a title change.

Honestly, though, putting it on Rhino made some sense to me. We all know Jarrett won't be allowed to be without the gold for long, so he'll win it back at whatever-their-next-PPV-is. But a surprise title change will get people talking.

Any casual fan who didn't order tonight's PPV after thinking long and hard about it will be thinking "I didn't order the show because I didn't really care about Diesel and J-E-double-F J-A-double-R-E-double-T. Wait...who won the title? Huh. Kinda wish I'd seen that."

Rhino put on a good show tonight from what I've heard. The Monster's Ball match was put together well and got an awesome reaction from the crowd. The guy who wins that match is going to come off looking like a million bucks. Any one of those guys would have been a viable #1 contender in those fans' eyes, and he's the one who beat 'em all in the most brutal match TNA has. He beat Abyss twice tonight!

Yes, he jobbed in WWE. But, honestly, who hasn't (besides UT, Hogan, Austin, and HHH)? They could have brought in Chris Jericho, and we'd all be going nuts. But Jericho was jobbed just as bad as Rhino, and he did it in a much more high-profile manner.

Now Raven has even more to complain about. Not only was he screwed by AMW at the BCW show, now the Championship Committee doesn't even put him in the gauntlet? I don't think it has to be Raven vs. Jarrett for this storyline to continue. It's Raven vs. Zybysko. It's Raven vs. TNA. It's Raven vs. the world. What about Raven, right?

I, for one, can't wait until Impact to see how this all plays out.

In that way, I can see the positives. And I don't really watch Impact for the World Title scene anyway, So I agree that I want to see how it plays out.

And Fox's point about the possibility of a title change on the 2 Hour Special is a valid one.

And I love the idea that loopy put out about Raven vs The World and I hope TNA picks up on it.

I think I mainly totally reject the idea that JJ retaining would've sent the viewers and ticket buyers home unhappy. I still believe the best decision would've been to leave the belt on JJ and to go from there.
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I think TNA needs to handle this new situation very delicately. This is how I would set it up.

I suggest 'claiming' that Rhino has reinjured his broken neck and will be unable to defend his title. They should build up his THREE big wins, and start setting up that he is the MAN and how he won the title with a broken neck or whatever. Then have Rhino should cut an classy emotional promo, and tell everyone in the back that he is setting up a tournament to crown the new champion.

Set up a big tournament for the NWA World Heavyweight Championship with obviously Jeff Jarrett V. Raven being in the finals match with Raven winning cleanly. This way, it makes the title the focus and also brings together the big Jarrett-Raven II match.

The downside is having to keep Rhino off the show, but still, it creates a ready made storyline when he "recovers" from his injuries.
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It won't happen but I believe it is the best, and most intriging way to do it from this point.
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