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Old 12-17-2005, 01:17 AM   #121
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You just said that the easiest group to get out of would have been the one with Mexico as number one seeds.
I replied back with the loss to Iran in the 98 World Cup.
I still don't get it. The US wasn't supposed to get out of that group to begin with, with Germany and Yugoslavia. But I don't see how that's relavent? The US national team as a whole has grown considerably since then, to the point where they are actually favored to beat some people. Unfortunately not the Czechs and Italians.
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Old 12-17-2005, 12:24 PM   #123
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I still don't get it. The US wasn't supposed to get out of that group to begin with, with Germany and Yugoslavia. But I don't see how that's relavent? The US national team as a whole has grown considerably since then, to the point where they are actually favored to beat some people. Unfortunately not the Czechs and Italians.
I know that you weren't favoured to get out of that group.
I'm just saying that although your team has grown better with the growth of Major League Soccer, you would find it just as difficult to get out of the Mexico group.
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So you'r whole point is that it is just as hard to beat Mexico, Angola, Iran, and Portugal as it is to beat Italy, Ghana, and Czech Republic?

While I understand your point that no group is easy to get out of, it's obvious that some are easier then others.
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Old 12-20-2005, 10:35 AM   #125
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The USA does have a very tough group. I can see them finishing bottom.

It'd be funny if Freddy Adu did go and play for Ghana. Won't happen, though, it'd murder his commercial value and he's more of a commodity at this point than an actual person or footballer. Nike probably make his decisions for him.
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Old 12-20-2005, 11:03 AM   #126
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Definitely the most difficult group in the draw. Worse part for them is I believe anyone who escapes that group ends up with a date with Brazil soon afterwards.
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Brazil and Italy will probably top the groups and avoid each other then.
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The Czech Republic is ranked 2nd in the world. Are you telling me you think they are overated and will falter in the tournament? I don't know many of the players as I only follow during Euro and World cup, but I thought FIFA was somewhat realiable when it came to rankings. Just trying to get clued in as to what to expect this summer.
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The Czech Republic is ranked 2nd in the world. Are you telling me you think they are overated and will falter in the tournament? I don't know many of the players as I only follow during Euro and World cup, but I thought FIFA was somewhat realiable when it came to rankings. Just trying to get clued in as to what to expect this summer.
The Czech's being ranked 2nd in the world is a joke. Besides, there is no need for rankings. We may just as well call Brazil #1 and everyone else #2. I have a sneaky suspicion that @ the World Cup, we'll find this out
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The FIFA World rankings are flawed, the Czechs aren't bad but they're not the 2nd best team in the world.

The Czechs could do well, they have some very good players although Nedved and Koller are getting on a bit now. Milan Baros is ridiculously inconsistant but had a very good Euro 2004. Rosicky and Cech are both young and good though.

Personally I doubt they'll win it but they're a good team.
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Everyone is jocking the Czechs, it'll be funny if the U.S beats them.
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Well at least FIFA got the number one ranking correct.

Thanks for the info CSL, Although not part of my heritage I cheer for the Italians so I was wondering what their chances were in the group. The Americans being ranked in the top 10 seems too strange. Perhaps I don't give enough credit to US soccer....
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Brazil and Italy will probably top the groups and avoid each other then.
Let's not forget that Italy may be the most underperforming team at recent major championships when you consider the talent they have.
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Well at least FIFA got the number one ranking correct.

Thanks for the info CSL, Although not part of my heritage I cheer for the Italians so I was wondering what their chances were in the group. The Americans being ranked in the top 10 seems too strange. Perhaps I don't give enough credit to US soccer....
I wouldn't personally call America one of the top 10 teams in the world (Top 20 is about right) but they are a solid team with talent (Beasley, Donovan, Adu maybe, McBride, solid defence, 3 good keepers) who can be hard to beat. If Italy play the way they should (ditto to the Czech's), then the group will be all about those 2.

But don't be suprised if the US qualify 2nd and Italy crash out with all of Italy crying like bitches again. They don't have the heart to do well I don't think
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Let's not forget that Italy may be the most underperforming team at recent major championships when you consider the talent they have.
Not really. That accolade goes to Spain, without doubt. Holland would be behind them.

Only one team can win these tournaments, after all. Italy got to the Euro 2000 final and were screwed over in 2002. Their defence is the best around, but until recently their midfield and attack has been lacking compared to teams of the past.

Argentina need a big display at this tournament too after their efforts last time around.
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LOL England in the final?

Typical Pom talk before a tournament...
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England have one of the strongest teams on paper (strong defence and midfield, supreme goalscorer in Michael Owen up-front and they have a world class match winner in Wayne Rooney). For once they do genuinely have a legitimate claim to being one of the hot favourites.
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And yet they'll still crash out in the quarter finals.
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Didn't you keep going on about that during the ashes?
Probably was Y2C with his usual rantings about 'Straya's dominance in sports that hardly any others give a shit about.

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Nah the media tends to say it's our time before the thing starts and then get all over the players for not winning every game 5-0
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