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Old 03-20-2006, 12:40 PM   #121
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I say don't re-draft. I know not a lot of people made it, but only 1 or 2 people actually said they could not make it, so no one changed the draft time. If more of you would have said something then maybe you could have made the draft, but you didn't so too bad.
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Old 03-20-2006, 05:39 PM   #122
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K, so here's my 25-man team:

C - Michael Barrett
1B - Chad Tracy
2B - Tadahito Iguchi
SS - Jimmy Rollins
3B - Eric Chavez
LF - Jason Bay
CF - Ryan Freel
RF - Bobby Abreu
UTIL - Matt Holliday
BN - J.D. Drew
BN - Brad Wilkerson
BN - Bill Mueller
BN - Matt Murton

Plenty of great fallback OF options........and if need be I can always stick Bay in CF and have Murton or Holliday in LF. Only spots I don't have backups for are C and SS.........obviously a backup C is pointless but I might drop Mueller and pick up a fallback SS option like O-Cab, Uribe, or Vizquel, what do you think?

SP - Dontrelle Willis
SP - Josh Beckett
SP - Brad Radke
SP - Matt Clement
SP - Brad Penny
RP - Brad Lidge
RP - Bobby Jenks
RP - Chad Orvella
RP - Juan Rincon
P - Aaron Heilman
P - Carlos Silva
BN - Rafael Soriano

I love that rotation personally, but that's just me.
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Old 03-21-2006, 11:42 AM   #123
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Yo Roxer, you have Konerko, Giambi, Thome, and Hillenbrand and crappy middle infielders. I have Rollins and Belliard and crappy first basemen. LETS MAKE A DEAL
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Old 03-21-2006, 02:49 PM   #124
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Hero, I have Taveras and Pierre already. I don't need another speed OF, especially Matt Lawton.
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Old 03-22-2006, 12:08 AM   #125
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re-drafting isn't fair for those that made it. I loathe my team, however it's my fault for not A) being there and B) not pre drafting. That's my take on it.


Splichuk, I'm waiting on you man, but it's getting tough as I have another tempting offer.
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Old 03-22-2006, 12:12 AM   #126
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I should get in on all this wheeling and dealing going on. I'd like a few A's if possible. I.E. Chavez, Zito, Harden, Street, and others.
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Old 03-22-2006, 01:18 AM   #127
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Old 03-22-2006, 08:45 AM   #128
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With that team I posted, some guy in my league (the one who didn't make it and got stuck with Clemens) said he'd trade him for pretty much anybody

Should I try offering up my shittiest player and let Clemens stay on the bench until he makes an official decision? If he plays, it'd probably be the ultimate low-risk/high-reward
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Old 03-22-2006, 06:45 PM   #129
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Well Clemens prolly has the same chance of playing as JD Drew so that'd be a fair deal.
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Old 03-22-2006, 06:46 PM   #130
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Yeah, I missed the draft but my team is pretty good. I could use some pitching though, hit me upppppp (Krebstars). Would like to improve at short as well.

C - Rod Barajas
1B - Richie Sexon
2B - Orlando Hudson
SS - Juan Uribe
IF - Chris Shelton
LF - Barry Bonds
CF - Grady Sizemore
RF - Gary Sheffield
OF - Maglio Ordonez
Utl - Rocco Baldelli
Utl - Curtis Granderson
BN - Dimitri Young
BN - Juan Rivera

SP - John Smoltz
SP - C.C. Sabathia
SP - Jake Westbrook
SP - David Wells
SP - Brad Penny
SP - Aaron Heilman
SP - Tomo Ohka
RP - Aaron Small
RP - Joe Nathan
RP - Todd Jones
RP - Joe Borowski

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Old 03-22-2006, 06:53 PM   #131
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PS - how the hell did we not veto Schmidt for Reitsma?
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Old 03-22-2006, 07:15 PM   #132
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So are the pitching catagories gonna stay the same or what's going on
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Old 03-22-2006, 07:26 PM   #133
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I like not having wins and losses. The stats should be things the pitcher can control.
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Old 03-22-2006, 07:28 PM   #134
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PS - how the hell did we not veto Schmidt for Reitsma?
I thought it was an OK trade. Schmidt is one season removed from being a top ten pitcher in the league and Rietsma will be the ATL closer, I dunno seems ok. da spongemonkeys always plays for lots of closers too, so it was pretty predictable he'd make such a move.
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Old 03-22-2006, 07:31 PM   #135
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I like not having wins and losses. The stats should be things the pitcher can control.
I can understand that, but it should be included, it's as much in their control as a double play. I say add wins and drop Games Started, especially since Innings pitched is there. I feel that is a far more balanced set up.
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I agree, and I don't think GIDP should be in there anyway. If you want to award ground-ball pitchers, GO/AO is a better stat.
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Old 03-22-2006, 07:44 PM   #137
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It's a beautiful thing when a reliever wins you the wins pitching catergory with a Sunday win. gotta have wins.
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No way Reitsma is going to close all year.

Schmidt could easily strike out 200 guys and post a sub 3.00 ERA. Reitsma isn't even a second tier closer, he sucked in the role last year and will probably lose the job to Devine eventually. No way they're even close.
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I kind of like not having wins too. It's almost an offensive stat as much as it is a pitching stat.
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It's a beautiful thing when a reliever wins you the wins pitching catergory with a Sunday win. gotta have wins.
While that may be a good feeling, it isn't fair.
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Old 03-22-2006, 07:58 PM   #141
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If my rotation is

Dontrelle Willis (FLA)
Scott Kazmir (TB)
Felix Hernandez (SEA)
Aaron Harang (CIN)

, and yours is

Mike Mussina (NYY)
John Thomson (ATL)
Matt Morris (SF)
Jason Johnson (CLE)

, you are going to kill me in wins despite the fact that I have 4 great pitchers and you have 4 ok ones
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Old 03-22-2006, 08:17 PM   #142
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Well drafting guys that are good in ERA, wins, strikeouts is important strategy. It's no different like in hockey when you draft goalies. Sure it's a no brainer to go after the Brodeur's but you've got to think about what the categories are that your league is set up for and pick guys that will help you win the categories. It's not so much about picking the best talent that's there, it's about picking guys that get the job done.

I know for a fact, wins are something people were expecting to see as a pitching stat.
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I agree, which is why I think you should never change the categories after the draft has already taken place. The people who showed up for it, if they were smart, knew that wins wasn't a category and drafted accordingly. If you are against re-drafting because it's unfair to the people who showed up, I don't see how you can be for changing the categories after the draft, its just as unfair to those people.
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I can appreciate that, but the difference is, most people assumed it was there, anyway... I'm for wins, just as I was for holds and how saves is included.



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I am in need of an ace pitcher and am willing to deal offense and relievers.

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I was looking at him on your roster. I was thining (before I traded him) of offereing you Clemens for him. Tell me, would you have made that deal?
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I was looking at him on your roster. I was thining (before I traded him) of offereing you Clemens for him. Tell me, would you have made that deal?
Sounds like a pretty good deal to me, both of them will pitch well for half a season.
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I was looking at him on your roster. I was thining (before I traded him) of offereing you Clemens for him. Tell me, would you have made that deal?
Absolutely. I believe Clemens is going to sign with the Astros on May 1 anyway, and even though Wood is scheduled to come back the same time, I don't trust him to stay healthy.

Who did you trade Clemens to? Maybe I'll offer him Wood.
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Old 03-23-2006, 03:40 PM   #151
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Just got this crazy-ass trade proposal:

I give: Jason Bay, Matt Holliday, Dontrelle Willis
I get: Manny Ramirez, Torii Hunter, Pedro Martinez

Ridiculous, but I'm more than likely not gonna take it. Manny is probably slightly better than Bay at best, Holliday is gonna be a beast. Pedro's gonna have more wins than Willis, but the toe makes him a question mark.

Besides, my main weakness is pitching....and I might be close to acquiring Carlos Zambrano for the price of Eric Chavez (the guy is loaded at pitching but no offense outside of Pujols....plus he has a love affair with Chavez)
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Who did you trade Clemens to? Maybe I'll offer him Wood.
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I wish I had seen that wins wasn't a category before the draft. I wouldn't have taken Mark Buehrle and Cliff Lee as my first 2 starters.
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Made some more moves today:

-Dropped Rafael Soriano for Neal Cotts because Cotts may be closing instead of Jenks

-Also dropped Bill Mueller and picked up Mike Lowell. I don't think Lowell's gonna suck as bad as he did last year, especially not in Fenway with the lineup he's in. If the proposed Chavez deal works out, this would be my likely starting lineup:

C - Barrett
1B - Tracy
2B - Iguchi
SS - Rollins
3B - Lowell
LF - Bay
CF - Freel/Drew/Wilkerson.....really not sure who to start yet. I'm also considering starting Matt Murton in LF and shifting Bay here.
RF - Abreu
UTIL - Holliday

And if Lowell were to falter, Tracy should get 3B eligibility after a few days and then I can move him there with Freel or Wilky manning 1B
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Freel isn't a starter bud
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Even if Freel does start he'll probably get hurt or something.
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That's why I didn't take him when I had the chance.
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Had another draft today. 8 teams, 26 guy rosters....and most guys are starting because the commish doesnt like to have too many bench guys. So almost everybody earns points:

C - Hernandez
1B - Tex
2B - Belliard
SS - Rollins
3B - Ensberg
CI - General
MI - Garciaparra
IF - Berkman
LF - Matsui
CF - Hunter
RF - Tracy
OF - Floyd
OF - Holliday
Util - Huff

P - Unit
SP - Zambrano
SP - Lackey
RP - Mo
RP - C. Cordero
RP - Valverde
P - K. Escobar (available in either SP or RP)
P - Todd Jones
P - Kazmir
P - M. Gonzalez
BN - Rincon
BN - Timlin

I really like this team. Its loaded but every team is in this league. Now I just have to hope that 2 of Lackey/Escobar/Zambrano don't start Opening Day so I'll be able to slide both Rincon and Timlin in.
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For missing Dave's draft, I'm satisfied with my team. I wouldn't mind striking up a deal for a cloer though (Danbury Mets?)
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