Official Ring of Honor discussion thread (A few random pics from the doubleshot.) - Page 4

**What Would Kevin Do?** · 08-27-2006, 01:18 AM

2 best of 3 matches, both ending in draws... Is the end of the reign near for the Dragon? Hmmmmm.

**Mr. Monday Morning** · 08-27-2006, 05:15 AM

Unless I'm mistaken next up is Aries, who I'd imagine Dragon would probably beat down quite severely due to his ribs, leading to the tag title change, then 9/16 is KENTA. I honestly can't see them putting it on KENTA but at this point I'm hard pressed to think of any other credible challenger, Joe aside.

**What Would Kevin Do?** · 08-28-2006, 01:15 AM

Holy shit!!! Danielson just gained even more respect from me... Check this out, from the latest Newswire.

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August 27th: About 10 minutes into the Cabana match last night Danielson suffered a separated shoulder. Danielson gutted out the final 50 minutes of the match and wrestled in excruciating pain in what will go down as legendary effort. Danielson went to the emergency room this morning and had his shoulder popped back into place. He will see a specialist this week for a MRI and we will have an update on his condition when we get one.

**Fignuts** · 08-28-2006, 02:34 AM

I can totally see KENTA getting the win. Noah and ROH have been working closer and closer together. As a KENTA fan, i'd love to see it too.

**What Would Kevin Do?** · 08-28-2006, 02:38 AM

You know, it wouldn't be a horrible idea to have KENTA win it, defend it in Japan a little against some guys for a month or two, and then drop it back to someone in ROH.

**redoneja** · 08-28-2006, 02:43 AM

I kinda wanna see Danielson keep it past the year mark.

08-28-2006, 01:41 PM

I am officially sick of Danielson's reign. If I actually bought Ring of Honor DVDs I'd stop till he loses the belt.

**Mr. Monday Morning** · 08-29-2006, 02:15 PM

I'm more excited by Strong-Joe than Bruno

Not that I don't appreciate who he is and what he has done, but I dunno. I would be surprised if they get him to do a shoot actually - although before the announcement I would've been surprised for him to make any kind of appearance at all, so who knows.

08-30-2006, 06:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thecc

I hope ROH starts booking Arik Cannon.

The Kool-Aid Man??

**thecc** · 08-30-2006, 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve The Pirate

The Kool-Aid Man??

OH YEAH!!!

**Mr. Monday Morning** · 08-30-2006, 02:01 PM

I don't think Cannon would work right now tbh

I'd rather have Team FIST

**thecc** · 08-30-2006, 07:15 PM

Theres so many midwest and socal indy talent i'd love to see in ring of honor.

**What Would Kevin Do?** · 09-01-2006, 04:12 AM

Check this video out. It's for the KENTA Vs Roderick Strong match. Awesome stuff.... I had nothing to do with this obviously, it's from Code Red 48 at the ROH message board, and it's on the site www.themvzone.com which should definately be checked out for cool videos.

http://www.themvzone.com/videos/newwave/KENTA_vs_Roderick_FULL.wmv

**Mr. Monday Morning** · 09-01-2006, 07:30 AM

Whitmer finally got his ankle cleaned up and is out 3-4 months

Tough bastard.

Not sure why Nigel is still listed as Pure champ either. The whole situation is a bit of a mess really.

**Destor** · 09-01-2006, 08:39 AM

Sammartino

**What Would Kevin Do?** · 09-01-2006, 08:49 AM

KENTA Vs Danielson and Marufuji Vs McGuiness are going to be badass.

09-01-2006, 04:43 PM

Guaranteed that Kenta vs. Danielson ends in another 60 minute draw.

**blake639raw** · 09-01-2006, 06:38 PM

Mark my words, either KENTA will beat Dragon for the title, or the KoW will take the tag team belts on Glory by Honor weekend.

09-07-2006, 01:19 PM

He won't.

**Mr. Monday Morning** · 09-07-2006, 01:20 PM

Hopefully Aries has had a chance to rest up a bit, cause if they're both good to go Aries-Richards should be

**Mr. Monday Morning** · 09-10-2006, 05:46 AM

Marafuji won the GHC title

Not the Jr title, but the actual, full, heavyweight title

No way in hell Briscoes or Nigel are going over next week

**What Would Kevin Do?** · 09-11-2006, 12:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Monday Morning

Marafuji won the GHC title

Not the Jr title, but the actual, full, heavyweight title

No way in hell Briscoes or Nigel are going over next week

I like Maru, but I didn't want him going over Akiyama.

It WON'T happen... But what if Nigel beat Maru for the title, and KENTA beat Danielson?

Nigel could defend the GHC in ROH as the main champ, and KENTA could defend the ROH belt in NOAH...

It would be huge.

**What Would Kevin Do?** · 09-11-2006, 12:34 AM

Also, if you're keeping score...

This means the current ROH champion has beaten the current NOAH champion.

**Blitz** · 09-11-2006, 02:48 AM

Liking the 2 matches announced for the Detroit show

**Fignuts** · 09-11-2006, 03:04 AM

WTF

In no way is Marufuji ready to take the title. Eventually, for sure, but not now, and not from Akiyama.

Between Rikioh, Taue's hand-me-out reign, and Akiyama's far too short reign, to Marafuji being the one tio beat him for it, They have just rendered Misiwa and Kobashi's reigns, which established major credibility to the title, useless wastes of time.

**What Would Kevin Do?** · 09-11-2006, 04:31 AM

There is a flipside to this though Fig...

In one sense, they may be damning the title's imagine.

In the other sense, they're preparing the New Generation.

If Maru is going to head the new gen, they have to do it now, as they don't have tons of time. A lot of their big names are getting up there. Kobashi and Misawa don't have much left obviously. I've heard talks of Taue being done soon, etc, etc.

Also, Akiyama is on their booking team, so he had a lot of influence over this.

I guess what I'm saying is, the title is worthless if they don't have people to fight over it in the future.

**Mr. Monday Morning** · 09-11-2006, 08:01 AM

I was thinking about the KENTA - Dragon situation earlier...before Maru won the title I think Gabe might have been prepared to put the title on KENTA, but now I can't see it happening. I doubt NOAH would intentionally stab them in the back like New Japan did with the whole Best of American Super Juniors tourny, but they could easily have KENTA ROH champ job out to Maru NOAH champ. Ok there would probably be contactual language there somewhere to prevent that but still...looks like Dragon will still be champ through 16/9 IMO

**What Would Kevin Do?** · 09-11-2006, 08:31 AM

Even if KENTA won the ROH title, and then lost a match to Maru, it wouldn't hurt ROH. A. Exposure is good. B. Danielson still holds a victory over Maru.

**Mr. Monday Morning** · 09-11-2006, 02:26 PM

I was seriously looking into trying to get there on pretty short notice with a friend, but because it's so late it would be stupidly expensive (like £600+ for the flights and 2 nights hotel). Shame, cause it really does seem to be loaded. Still, am going to carry on planning for the inevitable Wrestlemania shows next year.

Oh, and then there's this: New Jimmy Jacobs promo/song (opens in WMP). Smell the emo ~! Wouldn't want to be Cabana. A couple weeks ago I would've wanted to be, but not right now.

**Mr. Monday Morning** · 09-11-2006, 02:32 PM

There was actually something else I was thinking about...is Akiyama vs Joe now more or less likely? I'd think with him no longer being champ there's no real barrier to it happening excepting for the inevitable politics. I guess you could argue Jun is not the draw that Kobashi was/is but I'd still pay to see that match.

**What Would Kevin Do?** · 09-11-2006, 02:35 PM

JIMMY!!!!

COLT MUST DDDDIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEE!!!!!

Jimmy

**What Would Kevin Do?** · 09-11-2006, 02:36 PM

I think it's more likely to happen. Especially since rumor has itKobashi was supposed to come back for a rematch. Having Akiyama come would be the next best thing. In fact, he's probably the biggest name in NOAH who I'd want to see come (honestly, Misawa would have too many issues.)

09-11-2006, 02:47 PM

Well now we know who'll win that match. Card is pretty easy to call. I'm gonna skip actually going to this one.

**Mr. Monday Morning** · 09-11-2006, 03:00 PM

Just watching the Maru title win and a couple things popped up in my mind:

-At one point Jun used Joe's powerbomb-boston crab spot. I'm no regular puro watcher but does anyone know if he does that regularly? Just having talked about the possibility of the two going at it it stood out a bit to me.

-I'm still not really sold on Maru. Granted I've only seen 3-4 of his matches so I can't really judge, and he looked better in this than the last time I saw him, but I dunno, I can't buy into him as a legit champion. And I'm no MOVESET~ freak but it'd be nice to not see a million superkicks and Shiranui attempts in every match.

**What Would Kevin Do?** · 09-11-2006, 04:58 PM

I haven't seen the Akiyama match yet (might watch it tonight), but Maru has been evolving. He's moving away from the superkick machine he once was.

**Fignuts** · 09-12-2006, 01:00 AM

Yeah, I read a lot about why he booked it like this. It seems to be part of an elaborate plan to turn face, and go back to the blue. Which would rule, Butafter Rikioh and Taue's poor reigns it would have been a better idea to have a former cahmp like akiyama take the title on a long reign(not kobashi long, mind you) and build its credibility again before entrusting it to marufuji. Also, I think marufuji should have gotten a clean pin on misiwa one on one before winning the title, instead of after, as they seem to be planning for.

Also, this pisses me off, because the focal point of akiyama's reign was going to be the Kobashi/akiyama ghc rematch. Kobashi's tumor may have postponed it but his recovery isn't going to take so long that they couldn't do it.

Finally, despite the poor booking of the GHC title the last couple years, I still don't consider any ROH wrestler, past or present, worthy of it. Even with the poor booking, i still consider it the most credible and prestigious title in the world right now.(although just barely atm). And I like Nigel McGuiness, but no.

**Mr. Monday Morning** · 09-13-2006, 03:54 AM

September 12th: One more match has been added for this Saturday's event in Midtown Manhattan in the Grand Ballroom of the Manhattan Center. It will be a one fall three-way pitting Christopher Daniels vs. Colt Cabana vs. Jimmy Jacobs with Lacey. What will happen when Jacobs and Cabana are in the same ring with Lacey at ringside this weekend?

FEAR THE POWER OF LOVE, CABANA

**Mr. Monday Morning** · 09-15-2006, 10:55 AM

It starts tonight.

MaruKENTA vs Briscoes

**Innovator** · 09-15-2006, 11:36 AM

Roderick vs. Joe

**Mr. Monday Morning** · 09-15-2006, 01:34 PM

Everything

08-27-2006, 01:18 AM	#121
What Would Kevin Do? Ninja Mod, Esquire Posts: 12,676	2 best of 3 matches, both ending in draws... Is the end of the reign near for the Dragon? Hmmmmm.

08-27-2006, 05:15 AM	#122
Mr. Monday Morning All Part Of The Plan Posts: 12,125	Unless I'm mistaken next up is Aries, who I'd imagine Dragon would probably beat down quite severely due to his ribs, leading to the tag title change, then 9/16 is KENTA. I honestly can't see them putting it on KENTA but at this point I'm hard pressed to think of any other credible challenger, Joe aside.

08-28-2006, 01:15 AM	#123
What Would Kevin Do? Ninja Mod, Esquire Posts: 12,676	Holy shit!!! Danielson just gained even more respect from me... Check this out, from the latest Newswire. ------------------------------------ August 27th: About 10 minutes into the Cabana match last night Danielson suffered a separated shoulder. Danielson gutted out the final 50 minutes of the match and wrestled in excruciating pain in what will go down as legendary effort. Danielson went to the emergency room this morning and had his shoulder popped back into place. He will see a specialist this week for a MRI and we will have an update on his condition when we get one.

08-28-2006, 02:34 AM	#124
Fignuts Hey Mister! Posts: 54,952	I can totally see KENTA getting the win. Noah and ROH have been working closer and closer together. As a KENTA fan, i'd love to see it too.

08-28-2006, 02:38 AM	#125
What Would Kevin Do? Ninja Mod, Esquire Posts: 12,676	You know, it wouldn't be a horrible idea to have KENTA win it, defend it in Japan a little against some guys for a month or two, and then drop it back to someone in ROH.

08-28-2006, 02:43 AM	#126
redoneja Posts: 5,629	I kinda wanna see Danielson keep it past the year mark.

08-28-2006, 01:41 PM	#127
Steve The Pirate Guest Posts: n/a	I am officially sick of Danielson's reign. If I actually bought Ring of Honor DVDs I'd stop till he loses the belt.

08-29-2006, 02:15 PM	#128
Mr. Monday Morning All Part Of The Plan Posts: 12,125	I'm more excited by Strong-Joe than Bruno Not that I don't appreciate who he is and what he has done, but I dunno. I would be surprised if they get him to do a shoot actually - although before the announcement I would've been surprised for him to make any kind of appearance at all, so who knows.

08-30-2006, 02:01 PM	#131
Mr. Monday Morning All Part Of The Plan Posts: 12,125	I don't think Cannon would work right now tbh I'd rather have Team FIST

08-30-2006, 07:15 PM	#132
thecc Polyam cult member #420 Posts: 2,966	Theres so many midwest and socal indy talent i'd love to see in ring of honor.

09-01-2006, 08:39 AM	#135
Destor I am the cheese Posts: 51,442	Sammartino

09-01-2006, 04:12 AM	#133
What Would Kevin Do? Ninja Mod, Esquire Posts: 12,676	Check this video out. It's for the KENTA Vs Roderick Strong match. Awesome stuff.... I had nothing to do with this obviously, it's from Code Red 48 at the ROH message board, and it's on the site www.themvzone.com which should definately be checked out for cool videos. http://www.themvzone.com/videos/newwave/KENTA_vs_Roderick_FULL.wmv

09-01-2006, 07:30 AM	#134
Mr. Monday Morning All Part Of The Plan Posts: 12,125	Whitmer finally got his ankle cleaned up and is out 3-4 months Tough bastard. Not sure why Nigel is still listed as Pure champ either. The whole situation is a bit of a mess really.

09-01-2006, 08:49 AM	#136
What Would Kevin Do? Ninja Mod, Esquire Posts: 12,676	KENTA Vs Danielson and Marufuji Vs McGuiness are going to be badass.

09-01-2006, 04:43 PM	#137
Steve The Pirate Guest Posts: n/a	Guaranteed that Kenta vs. Danielson ends in another 60 minute draw.

09-01-2006, 06:38 PM	#138
blake639raw The Iconoclast Posts: 2,897	Mark my words, either KENTA will beat Dragon for the title, or the KoW will take the tag team belts on Glory by Honor weekend.

09-07-2006, 01:19 PM	#139
Steve The Pirate Guest Posts: n/a	He won't.

09-07-2006, 01:20 PM	#140
Mr. Monday Morning All Part Of The Plan Posts: 12,125	Hopefully Aries has had a chance to rest up a bit, cause if they're both good to go Aries-Richards should be

09-10-2006, 05:46 AM	#141
Mr. Monday Morning All Part Of The Plan Posts: 12,125	Marafuji won the GHC title Not the Jr title, but the actual, full, heavyweight title No way in hell Briscoes or Nigel are going over next week

09-11-2006, 12:34 AM	#143
What Would Kevin Do? Ninja Mod, Esquire Posts: 12,676	Also, if you're keeping score... This means the current ROH champion has beaten the current NOAH champion.

09-11-2006, 02:48 AM	#144
Blitz Angel Headed Hipster Posts: 37,942	Liking the 2 matches announced for the Detroit show

09-11-2006, 03:04 AM	#145
Fignuts Hey Mister! Posts: 54,952	WTF In no way is Marufuji ready to take the title. Eventually, for sure, but not now, and not from Akiyama. Between Rikioh, Taue's hand-me-out reign, and Akiyama's far too short reign, to Marafuji being the one tio beat him for it, They have just rendered Misiwa and Kobashi's reigns, which established major credibility to the title, useless wastes of time.

09-11-2006, 04:31 AM	#146
What Would Kevin Do? Ninja Mod, Esquire Posts: 12,676	There is a flipside to this though Fig... In one sense, they may be damning the title's imagine. In the other sense, they're preparing the New Generation. If Maru is going to head the new gen, they have to do it now, as they don't have tons of time. A lot of their big names are getting up there. Kobashi and Misawa don't have much left obviously. I've heard talks of Taue being done soon, etc, etc. Also, Akiyama is on their booking team, so he had a lot of influence over this. I guess what I'm saying is, the title is worthless if they don't have people to fight over it in the future.

09-11-2006, 08:01 AM	#147
Mr. Monday Morning All Part Of The Plan Posts: 12,125	I was thinking about the KENTA - Dragon situation earlier...before Maru won the title I think Gabe might have been prepared to put the title on KENTA, but now I can't see it happening. I doubt NOAH would intentionally stab them in the back like New Japan did with the whole Best of American Super Juniors tourny, but they could easily have KENTA ROH champ job out to Maru NOAH champ. Ok there would probably be contactual language there somewhere to prevent that but still...looks like Dragon will still be champ through 16/9 IMO

09-11-2006, 08:31 AM	#148
What Would Kevin Do? Ninja Mod, Esquire Posts: 12,676	Even if KENTA won the ROH title, and then lost a match to Maru, it wouldn't hurt ROH. A. Exposure is good. B. Danielson still holds a victory over Maru.

09-11-2006, 02:26 PM	#149
Mr. Monday Morning All Part Of The Plan Posts: 12,125	I was seriously looking into trying to get there on pretty short notice with a friend, but because it's so late it would be stupidly expensive (like £600+ for the flights and 2 nights hotel). Shame, cause it really does seem to be loaded. Still, am going to carry on planning for the inevitable Wrestlemania shows next year. Oh, and then there's this: New Jimmy Jacobs promo/song (opens in WMP). Smell the emo ~! Wouldn't want to be Cabana. A couple weeks ago I would've wanted to be, but not right now.

09-11-2006, 02:32 PM	#150
Mr. Monday Morning All Part Of The Plan Posts: 12,125	There was actually something else I was thinking about...is Akiyama vs Joe now more or less likely? I'd think with him no longer being champ there's no real barrier to it happening excepting for the inevitable politics. I guess you could argue Jun is not the draw that Kobashi was/is but I'd still pay to see that match.

09-11-2006, 02:35 PM	#151
What Would Kevin Do? Ninja Mod, Esquire Posts: 12,676	JIMMY!!!! COLT MUST DDDDIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEE!!!!! Jimmy

09-11-2006, 02:36 PM	#152
What Would Kevin Do? Ninja Mod, Esquire Posts: 12,676	I think it's more likely to happen. Especially since rumor has itKobashi was supposed to come back for a rematch. Having Akiyama come would be the next best thing. In fact, he's probably the biggest name in NOAH who I'd want to see come (honestly, Misawa would have too many issues.)

09-11-2006, 02:47 PM	#153
Steve The Pirate Guest Posts: n/a	Well now we know who'll win that match. Card is pretty easy to call. I'm gonna skip actually going to this one.

09-11-2006, 03:00 PM	#154
Mr. Monday Morning All Part Of The Plan Posts: 12,125	Just watching the Maru title win and a couple things popped up in my mind: -At one point Jun used Joe's powerbomb-boston crab spot. I'm no regular puro watcher but does anyone know if he does that regularly? Just having talked about the possibility of the two going at it it stood out a bit to me. -I'm still not really sold on Maru. Granted I've only seen 3-4 of his matches so I can't really judge, and he looked better in this than the last time I saw him, but I dunno, I can't buy into him as a legit champion. And I'm no MOVESET~ freak but it'd be nice to not see a million superkicks and Shiranui attempts in every match.