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Old 08-10-2006, 10:35 PM   #1
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Yeah you're right they booked him wrong.

I argee 100% on that.
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Old 08-10-2006, 11:03 PM   #2
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Just out of curiosity, can somebody tell me how Cena should have been booked?
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Old 08-11-2006, 12:00 PM   #3
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Just out of curiosity, can somebody tell me how Cena should have been booked?
He was booked fine, I just think he has been champ way too long, or at least a face champ way too long. I'd like to see the heel Cena back.
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Old 08-10-2006, 11:05 PM   #4
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Like the other negroes.
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Old 08-10-2006, 11:14 PM   #6
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It's easy to say in hindsight, but he probably shouldn't have become so whitemeat babyface. He should have had more heels, because feuding with Angle killed him. That's where I think they booked him wrong. They should have kept Kurt away from him like kept Angle on SD. They shouldn't have tried to make Angle Anti-American and this big uber-heel. If they keep Angle away I say the heat for Cena wouldn't have gotten as bad as it did.

Like I said though it's easy to say in hindsight. Also to Cena's credit the booing isn't nearly as bad anymore, and it looks like they did the right thing keeping him face.
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Old 08-10-2006, 11:24 PM   #7
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It's not hard to see, though, without hindsight . People were complaining about it almost instantly when he stopped rapping, started becoming bland babyface boy, etc.

They violated a very simple principle by fucking the way he got over, and trying to make him over instead.
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Old 08-10-2006, 11:42 PM   #8
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My question is why did fans stop booing him? There was a huge crowd backlash at the beginning of the year, but it just sort of stopped, and I can't figure out why. He's still the same old bland babyface that sucks in the ring.
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Old 08-10-2006, 11:51 PM   #9
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My question is why did fans stop booing him? There was a huge crowd backlash at the beginning of the year, but it just sort of stopped, and I can't figure out why. He's still the same old bland babyface that sucks in the ring.
I think people just stopped caring. There's only so long you can give shit attention...
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Old 08-11-2006, 08:49 AM   #10
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I think people just stopped caring. There's only so long you can give shit attention...

I think they realised that by booing him that was still doing Cena a favour because remember when Cena said 'aslong as I get a reaction, I don't care?' And it wasn't working so the only other option was to be silent and let the kids cheer him. Seems to have worked.
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Old 08-10-2006, 11:46 PM   #11
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After the RVD match at ONS they just kinda stopped. It was the pay off. That and I think some people realized they were dicks...
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It's his whole fued with ECW. Cena came out of that looking like gold. Also don't forget Edge. I think Edge has been doing some great heel work, but also he isn't as respected as say Angle is.

Also another reason could be because now WWE reconginzes the boos that Cena gets and now it might be not be as fun to boo Cena. I'm not really sure about the last one, but it might be a small probablity.
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They stopped boing him because he doesnt have the title
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Old 08-11-2006, 12:05 AM   #14
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You know he's getting it back because it's still a spinner title.
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They booed him when he was chasing the title before.
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Old 08-11-2006, 12:06 AM   #16
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I agree with whatever fucktard said the fans just realised they were being dicks. I mean, dammit, why should people boo the guys they don't like? That is so unfair.
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Honestly, I really don't have much of an opinion on Cena either way. Just needs to do a random moveset every match. And maybe shuffle up the moves he uses near the end a bit.

Oh, and the word nepotism? Isn't that a little bit of a big word for our favorite VAC-cum Cleaner to be using? Hmmmm...?



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Allow me to try to say this without being judgmental.
It's part of being a wrestling fan. A lot of people will tell you that one of the greatest performers ever, Ric Flair shouldn't wrestle while other people like these goddamn sheep cheer for Mr. “Hold Everyone Down” himself Hogan. Some people will tell you that a mediocre wrestler like Mick Foley who is still a damn good interview is the greatest person in the ring. At one point in time I would have told you that the man who needs more rest stops during a match than my grandmother needs rest room breaks on a long car ride Randy Orton is the future of the industry until I actually WATCHED one of his matches! Seriously, what the fuck do people see in this asshole!?!?.
I have to deal with people who hate who I like. Ric Flair, The Highlanders I’M ROBBIE!!!!, JBL, Kane, Regal, Steve Austin, Hayabusa, Mongo, CM Punk, and the list goes on… On line, face to face, friends, family, people who I don’t know. I deal with their criticisms on a habitual basis. You just have to put up with it.

 If you’re a Cena fan, then cheer for him and be prepared for people to say you’re an idiot. I take a lot of flack for saying Bret screwed Bret and Ric Flair isn’t to blame for Foley not going anywhere in WCW. Just be a man and stop bitching about the fact that not everyone sees eye to eye with you.

And while you're at it, don't listen to emo.

Edit- I haven't read the whole thread because I'm sure most of this drek isn't worth my time so sorry if I said what someone else has already said.
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Allow me to try to say this without being judgmental.
It's part of being a wrestling fan. A lot of people will tell you that one of the greatest performers ever, Ric Flair shouldn't wrestle while other people like these goddamn sheep cheer for Mr. “Hold Everyone Down” himself Hogan. Some people will tell you that a mediocre wrestler like Mick Foley who is still a damn good interview is the greatest person in the ring. At one point in time I would have told you that the man who needs more rest stops during a match than my grandmother needs rest room breaks on a long car ride Randy Orton is the future of the industry until I actually WATCHED one of his matches! Seriously, what the fuck do people see in this asshole!?!?.
I have to deal with people who hate who I like. Ric Flair, The Highlanders I’M ROBBIE!!!!, JBL, Kane, Regal, Steve Austin, Hayabusa, Mongo, CM Punk, and the list goes on… On line, face to face, friends, family, people who I don’t know. I deal with their criticisms on a habitual basis. You just have to put up with it.

 If you’re a Cena fan, then cheer for him and be prepared for people to say you’re an idiot. I take a lot of flack for saying Bret screwed Bret and Ric Flair isn’t to blame for Foley not going anywhere in WCW. Just be a man and stop bitching about the fact that not everyone sees eye to eye with you.

And while you're at it, don't listen to emo.

Edit- I haven't read the whole thread because I'm sure most of this drek isn't worth my time so sorry if I said what someone else has already said.
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Old 08-11-2006, 03:22 PM   #29
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See just john, you actually made a point there. However, I wouldn't take Cena v. Big Show as a prime example. When you're wrestling somebody that big, you HAVE to pull out different moves. He can't just toss the Big Show around like nothing, and it wouldn't look right for Show to be floored by a clothesline. During Cena's championship tenure, I think he was mostly just repetitive on Raw, but his PPV matches were as good as they'd ever been from him.
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I kinda meant the end, considering Cena wasn't as over then as he is now, just an FU would ruin the match, no one would buy that, but the part with the brass knucks and the chain distraction was pretty damn innovative, at least when he isnt expected to win all the time you can see some pretty cool shit on his behalf, I just think Cena needs to step down and heel it up, he needs the equivilent of Hogans' nWo turn.
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The major problem I have with Cena's character is that they haven't booked him to lose clean in so long, I actually can't remember the last time that occured. Let's look at some of his opponents within the last year or so:

Chris Jericho
Kurt Angle
Edge
HHH
RVD

All of these are arguably Hall of Fame wrestlers/superstars. Cena's character is booked as "unorthodoxed", "not technically sound", "street fighter", etc. Would it really kill him to lose a fucking match and, oh...I don't know, admittedly learn something from these ring veterans? The fact that he's booked OVER and OVER again in superman fashion over these calibur opponents is bullshit. All the opponents I have mentioned have lost clean within the time frame Cena moved to Raw, why can't he? That would make him more human and give his matches a hint of realism that he's sorely missing IMO. "Same old shit" sums it up perfectly.
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Old 08-11-2006, 03:46 PM   #32
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Yeah, sometimes I hate smarks, they complain about wrestling but dont do anything, at least marks are buying shit, which keeps WWE alive.

I think WWE tried to appeal to the smarks when they thought "Hmm, smarks like technical wrestlers, lets give him a submission hold to use alot" when really, it just doesnt fit Cena.

If Cena was such a brawler that he's made out to be he should use it alot more, people would still cheer him, and it would make his character seem more real. Cena fighting dirty doesnt automatically make him a heel.
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He can't have that now, though. When Hogan did it, EVERYBODY was a Hogan fan. Now if he turned heel, he'd probably get the same mixed reaction, only the people that booed before might start to cheer and vice versa.
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If Cena would've turned heel as SOON as he won the title, I would've loved that.
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Yeah, he needs a fued with someone the marks and possibly 'smarks' detest, then just snap it up and get them to join forces in some kinda plot twist.
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I really don't think there's anybody who could do that for him at press time.
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I really don't think there's anybody who could do that for him at press time.
Big Vis? He could be the white sexual chocolate.
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Actually, you know that Vis thing got me thinking, You know he wears that big PVC coat thing, is that even allowed? I mean, there is restrictions on attire, guys like the hardy boyz and the undertaker have bypassed it because it helps their image, but Vis doesnt really have an image, and if he does, is it important enough to be allowed to wear it?
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I was actually quite impressed with the Cena/Viscera match on Monday.
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I was actually quite impressed with the Cena/Viscera match on Monday.
It wasn't nearly as bad I thought it was gonna be, I'll give you that.

The more I think about it, all Cena would have to do is kick the shit out of Lilian for the heel turn and team up with Vis/Haas. "Yo, quit dissin' my niggaz Mexitease!"

Then after Lita costs Edge his title, he could beat the botch out of her and join with Vis, Haas and Cena. They could be a wife beater faction.

See, this is practically writing itself!

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