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Old 01-08-2004, 05:43 PM   #1
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she can harmonise with herself. hitting the proper notes
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she can harmonize with herself?

unless she can sing two notes at the same time (and the human throat isn't capable of such a feat) I don't know how she could harmonize with herself
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Old 01-08-2004, 05:47 PM   #3
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this is quite possible with the right equitment
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you could RECORD yourself harmonizing with yourself (and indeed Tori does on most of the songs in Boys For Pele), but I still fail to see how you could sing more than one note at the same time.
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Old 01-08-2004, 05:49 PM   #5
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vocal processors
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Old 01-08-2004, 06:00 PM   #6
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Except that vocal effects processors are setting up a computer to perform harmonically with you. You're still not singing more than one note at a time.
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I have no idea what you're talking about right now.
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Old 01-08-2004, 05:52 PM   #8
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i dont even sing and ive used one. come on. you dont know what a voice processor is?
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Old 01-08-2004, 06:01 PM   #9
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actually you could be when used right.
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Old 01-08-2004, 06:14 PM   #10
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actually you could be when used right.
No, because your vocal chords only produce one note at a time. You can SIMULATE harmony through recordings or synthesis, but you're only singing one note.

If you're still having trouble with the concept, I can speak slower and with smaller words.
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Old 01-08-2004, 08:28 PM   #11
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please do...jackass.
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you do realize this only goes on because i love being a prick to your bitchass
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Old 01-08-2004, 09:32 PM   #13
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you do realize this only goes on because i love being a prick to your bitchass
More like because you're too stupid to know when to quit.
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Old 01-09-2004, 03:25 AM   #14
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actually thats quite untrue
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actually thats quite untrue
For the sake of the bandwidth of TPWW, please don't start an arguement with Kane Knight. It's like trying to tell a 5 year old there is no Santa.
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Old 01-09-2004, 12:36 PM   #16
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actually thats quite untrue
Yes, I believe you. Simply because you said it's not so, means it's not so.
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kanes a ****ing douche. ive been comming to this messageboard under various names for years...
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The last two posters in this thread are both douches
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The last two posters in this thread are both douches

You know I almost felt sorry for you when people made fun of your chubby little ass.

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Old 01-09-2004, 09:17 AM   #20
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i liked it...
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I know what a vocal processor is. I don't have any idea what that has to do with the inability of the human throat to sing two notes at the same time.

Trying to think of what you COULD mean, I've only been able to come across two ways you could simulate the effect of solo harmonization live.

1) pre-record one vocal track. Bad idea because you could get out of time with yourself. Some people still do it though.
2) artificially raise or lower the pitch of the voice singing, and play the doctored and original vocals at the same time. Usually sounds really horrible. The only time I can think of that I've heard it working really well live was Jarvis Cocker of Pulp performing 'party hard' at Glastonbury 1998.

don't get me wrong, for more than one vocalist, good harmony is essential. However, for a quality solo artist, synthesized harmony sounds bloody awful.
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Old 01-09-2004, 12:47 PM   #22
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I know what a vocal processor is. I don't have any idea what that has to do with the inability of the human throat to sing two notes at the same time.

Trying to think of what you COULD mean, I've only been able to come across two ways you could simulate the effect of solo harmonization live.

1) pre-record one vocal track. Bad idea because you could get out of time with yourself. Some people still do it though.
2) artificially raise or lower the pitch of the voice singing, and play the doctored and original vocals at the same time. Usually sounds really horrible. The only time I can think of that I've heard it working really well live was Jarvis Cocker of Pulp performing 'party hard' at Glastonbury 1998.

don't get me wrong, for more than one vocalist, good harmony is essential. However, for a quality solo artist, synthesized harmony sounds bloody awful.
If you spend enough money, you can get a machine that will harmonize with everything you do, and it'll sound like 4 of you in perfect harmony. In fact, people who know how to sing harmony without a machine dislike the synthetics.

Granted, everyhourdylan's shown that he has no concept of what a good vocalist by giving us a link to his band. It's pretty obvious that he doesn't really understand a vocal processor beyond "It maekz k3w1 n0YZ."

The worst part is that most vocal processors, whether purchased for effects or synthetic harmony, blow. I use bass pedals for my vocal effects, personally. Nothing like Chorus, but I use Fuzz and Flange.

A lot of big groups that do vocal processing live have a couple laptops backstage doing the processing. This includes most form of vocal processing, except the standards, like reverb.

They've got some really cool programs for effectively altering vocals and pitch, but it's still mostly for people who want 4-part vocals and lack an ear for harmony.
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Old 01-09-2004, 01:48 PM   #23
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i know much more than you think i know...hate to break it to you...ive been doing this for years.
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Old 01-09-2004, 01:56 PM   #24
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I'm sure you have. And you're proving how much you know by offering up erroneous, false, and stupid information.

Good plan, chief.

Crying when someone calls you a moron when you demonstrate yourself as one.

All that knowledge of vocal processors, and you can't even use one to make your vocalist sound like he knows how to sing. Good demo.
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Old 01-09-2004, 02:09 PM   #25
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um yeah what ever you say.
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if you've been working with vocal processors for years, then surely you know that a great voice sounds MUCH better unprocessed than processed. You'd also know that all the technical wizardry in the world means nothing if there isn't a voice to work with.

You'd also know that a singer is as much a musician as someone who makes their music with an instrument.
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if you've been working with vocal processors for years, then surely you know that a great voice sounds MUCH better unprocessed than processed. You'd also know that all the technical wizardry in the world means nothing if there isn't a voice to work with.

You'd also know that a singer is as much a musician as someone who makes their music with an instrument.
Oh, but he knows more than you think.
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Of course, it would require he had some understanding of the human voice, and listening to his demos, he's pretty clearly clueless...
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yeah because your always right!
It must be hard to have to pull that card when you're clueless on the subject upon which you speak.
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Okay, im confused. Someone told me Amy and Ben Moody are or were married...true?
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neither. They were engaged at one point, I think. But not even that can be confirmed/denied except by Ben/Amy and maybe their families.
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