Kennedy gives his 2 cents on the media coverage lately - Page 4

**Kane Knight** · 07-19-2007, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by DarthTedious

I don't think anyone is saying that, I think there is a challenge being made to Mero's "OMG EVERYONES IS ON TEH DRUGS ALL THE TIMEZ WE NEEDS TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE" spiel.

Except it's widely admitted that drugs are widespread backstage. Everyone ignores it, because while they seem to hate WWE, they seem unable to COMPREHEND the notion that WWE isn't looking out for the best interests of its wrestlers....But it's there.

**Theo Dious** · 07-19-2007, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Loose Cannon

Kennedy got on Mero's case for not being in a WWE lockeroom today, so he should not talk.

Kennedy is talking about guys in the 80's as if he were there.

It's common knowledge drugs, drinking, pills go on today and have went on back then. If you don't believe this, you have your head under a rock.

Yeah, I'm saying none of that goes on today.

Even after Eddie Gurrerro and several others because of them, Angle lost his mind and went to TNA amidst a cloud of them, Benoit was found to be using them, several people have been wrist-slapped for violating a joke of a drug policy, and a WWE champion had the belt taken off him for doing drugs. I'm just a big ol' ostrich.

**Loose Cannon** · 07-19-2007, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by DarthTedious

Yeah, I'm saying none of that goes on today.

well at least you're admitting your ignorance. I'll give you that.

**Kane Knight** · 07-19-2007, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by DarthTedious

Yeah, I'm saying none of that goes on today.

Even after Eddie Gurrerro and several others because of them, Angle lost his mind and went to TNA amidst a cloud of them, Benoit was found to be using them, several people have been wrist-slapped for violating a joke of a drug policy, and a WWE champion had the belt taken off him for doing drugs. I'm just a big ol' ostrich.

And thank you for proving the opposition's point.

**KingofOldSchool** · 07-19-2007, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by DarthTedious

Yeah, I'm saying none of that goes on today.

Even after Eddie Gurrerro and several others because of them, Angle lost his mind and went to TNA amidst a cloud of them, Benoit was found to be using them, several people have been wrist-slapped for violating a joke of a drug policy, and a WWE champion had the belt taken off him for doing drugs. I'm just a big ol' ostrich.

Actually RVD had the belt taken off of him because he was CAUGHT BY THE POLICE doing them.

I mean if anyone backstage in WWE did NOT know that RVD was a pothead BEFORE that incident, well then they are even dumber than I thought.

**KingofOldSchool** · 07-19-2007, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by DarthTedious

Just to be perfectly clear: if Mero has current WWE contacts who are saying this, then yeah, they are doing the same thing. But I haven't heard him say anything along the lines of "I know guys in WWE today who tell me this" (and even if he did, I'd like some names.) I'm surprised we don't even have a bunch of TNA guys coming out to slander WWE over this, they seem to do it so well otherwise.

So if Mero says "I know guys in WWE who tell me this" then that makes him a credible source? And on top of that you'd expect him to drop names just like that?

GIMME A BREAK.

**Loose Cannon** · 07-19-2007, 09:48 AM

I have a feeling I'll be referencing that quote a lot in the coming months.

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Originally Posted by DarthTedious

Yeah, I'm saying none of that goes on today.

**Kane Knight** · 07-19-2007, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by KingofOldSchool

Actually RVD had the belt taken off of him because he was CAUGHT BY THE POLICE doing them.

I mean if anyone backstage in WWE did NOT know that RVD was a pothead BEFORE that incident, well then they are even dumber than I thought.

That's one of the things that bugs me about WWE's response to Benoit. Their argument is "He must have just started because we give out drug tests and if he was still with the company, it means he passed!"

A line which Kennedy and Cena have toed.

But what about RVD? And Sabu. You gonna tell me they both passed and suddenly decided to smoke up? Fuck that.

But, he will be fellated, because he is MISTERRRRRRRR...

...Go fuck yourself.

**Theo Dious** · 07-19-2007, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by KingofOldSchool

So if Mero says "I know guys in WWE who tell me this" then that makes him a credible source? And on top of that you'd expect him to drop names just like that?

GIMME A BREAK.

So yeah, the man has no sources. Kennedy could list a ton of names that have come out and talked about the rampant coke-and-pill culture that went on in the 80s. Mero has nothing.

**Theo Dious** · 07-19-2007, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Loose Cannon

I have a feeling I'll be referencing that quote a lot in the coming months.

So you actually teach "Out of Context 101" then?

**Loose Cannon** · 07-19-2007, 09:52 AM

he seems to be not paying attention to our recent examples. do you have selective eye sight?

**KingofOldSchool** · 07-19-2007, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by DarthTedious

So yeah, the man has no sources. Kennedy could list a ton of names that have come out and talked about the rampant coke-and-pill culture that went on in the 80s. Mero has nothing.

Kurt Angle.
Chris Benoit.
Randy Orton.
Joey Mercury.
Eddie Guerrero.
Rey Mysterio.
X-Pac.
Grandmaster Sexay.

Those are guys off the top of my head that have had problems with some kind of drug (painkillers, weed, cocaine, steroids, etc.). I know there are shitloads more that have had those kind of problems within the last 7 years.

**KingofOldSchool** · 07-19-2007, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Kane Knight

That's one of the things that bugs me about WWE's response to Benoit. Their argument is "He must have just started because we give out drug tests and if he was still with the company, it means he passed!"

A line which Kennedy and Cena have toed.

But what about RVD? And Sabu. You gonna tell me they both passed and suddenly decided to smoke up? Fuck that.

But, he will be fellated, because he is MISTERRRRRRRR...

...Go fuck yourself.

OMG KENNEDY IS THE MAN!111! HE JUST CALLED ME A STUPID JEW ASS NIGGER, RAPED MY MOM, DEFLOWERED MY SISTER, AND THEN LIED ABOUT WWE'S DRUG POLICY.

BUT IT'S OKAY BECAUSE HE'S, MIIIISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSTTTEEERRRRRRR

DOOOOUUUUCCCHEEEBBBAAAAAAAG!

**Theo Dious** · 07-19-2007, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by KingofOldSchool

Kurt Angle.
Chris Benoit.
Randy Orton.
Joey Mercury.
Eddie Guerrero.
Rey Mysterio.
X-Pac.
Grandmaster Sexay.

Those are guys off the top of my head that have had problems with some kind of drug (painkillers, weed, cocaine, steroids, etc.). I know there are shitloads more that have had those kind of problems within the last 7 years.

You should probably add Scott Hall to that list. The idea that people seem to think I don't think there are drugs in WWE is freaking retarded. All I was alluding to was the validity of someone commenting based on facts that have been known and testified to for two decades vs that of someone speculating on what EVERYONE is doing at this very moment.

**Theo Dious** · 07-19-2007, 10:00 AM

Oh you also forgot about Masters. And Test.

**KingofOldSchool** · 07-19-2007, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by DarthTedious

You should probably add Scott Hall to that list. The idea that people seem to think I don't think there are drugs in WWE is freaking retarded. All I was alluding to was the validity of someone commenting based on facts that have been known and testified to for two decades vs that of someone speculating on what EVERYONE is doing at this very moment.

So you're basically contradicting yourself?

**Loose Cannon** · 07-19-2007, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by DarthTedious

You should probably add Scott Hall to that list. The idea that people seem to think I don't think there are drugs in WWE is freaking retarded. All I was alluding to was the validity of someone commenting based on facts that have been known and testified to for two decades vs that of someone speculating on what EVERYONE is doing at this very moment.

IT'S kind of hard for anyone to know what is going on at this very moment. are you retarted? Can we at least say 1-2 years ago is current? jesus christ.

**Theo Dious** · 07-19-2007, 10:07 AM

I also eat kitten. It's delicious.

**Loose Cannon** · 07-19-2007, 10:07 AM

Dark Kane award for forum Douche of 2007: DarthTedious

**Theo Dious** · 07-19-2007, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Loose Cannon

IT'S kind of hard for anyone to know what is going on at this very moment. are you retarted? Can we at least say 1-2 years ago is current? jesus christ.

Yeah, it's hard to know for sure what is going on at the moment.

It's easier to know what went on 20-30 years ago.

Which has been my whole point for the past hour.

**Theo Dious** · 07-19-2007, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Loose Cannon

Dark Kane award for forum Douche of 2007: DarthTedious

It's an honor just to be nominated.

**Kane Knight** · 07-19-2007, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by KingofOldSchool

So if Mero says "I know guys in WWE who tell me this" then that makes him a credible source? And on top of that you'd expect him to drop names just like that?

GIMME A BREAK.

And it's not like Keneddy dropped names.

**Loose Cannon** · 07-19-2007, 10:11 AM

wtf? why would you even comment on what is going on exactly right now? nobody is Professor X here.

We have current vs past. current, by my watch, is at least 5 years ago till now. I'll even take 1-2 years ago if I had to. Current wrestlers have all benn caught, admited, whatever..to taking drugs, pills etc... Same with past superstars.

**KingofOldSchool** · 07-19-2007, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by DarthTedious

Yeah, it's hard to know for sure what is going on at the moment.

It's easier to know what went on 20-30 years ago.

Which has been my whole point for the past hour.

So it's okay to talk about it as long as it doesn't involve current WWE wrestlers?

**Kane Knight** · 07-19-2007, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by KingofOldSchool

Kurt Angle.
Chris Benoit.
Randy Orton.
Joey Mercury.
Eddie Guerrero.
Rey Mysterio.
X-Pac.
Grandmaster Sexay.

Those are guys off the top of my head that have had problems with some kind of drug (painkillers, weed, cocaine, steroids, etc.). I know there are shitloads more that have had those kind of problems within the last 7 years.

Sabu.
RVD.
Road Dogg
K-Kwik.
Scot Hall.
Test.
Masters.

Oh, and Edge got his steroids scrip from the same guy who was giving out bogus scrips to MLB players.

People downplay that because Edge, like Kennedy, is an abusive douchebag, and thefore, the man.

**Kane Knight** · 07-19-2007, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by KingofOldSchool

OMG KENNEDY IS THE MAN!111! HE JUST CALLED ME A STUPID JEW ASS NIGGER, RAPED MY MOM, DEFLOWERED MY SISTER, AND THEN LIED ABOUT WWE'S DRUG POLICY.

BUT IT'S OKAY BECAUSE HE'S, MIIIISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSTTTEEERRRRRRR

DOOOOUUUUCCCHEEEBBBAAAAAAAG!

The more abusive towards the smarks you are, the more the man you are.

**Theo Dious** · 07-19-2007, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by KingofOldSchool

So it's okay to talk about it as long as it doesn't involve current WWE wrestlers?

I'd really like to see some non-current guys who don't fall into the "chip-on-shoulder," "bat-shit-insane," or "keeping-the-door-open-for-a-return categories say a thing or two. So far I haven't seen anyone like that make a comment on this.

**KingofOldSchool** · 07-19-2007, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Loose Cannon

wtf? why would you even comment on what is going on exactly right now? nobody is Professor X here.

We have current vs past. current, by my watch, is at least 5 years ago till now. I'll even take 1-2 years ago if I had to. Current wrestlers have all benn caught, admited, whatever..to taking drugs, pills etc... Same with past superstars.

Yeah even Kurt Angle named a laundry list of pills he was taking, ALL AT THE SAME TIME.

Now if he's still doing it, only he knows (well possibly).

**KingofOldSchool** · 07-19-2007, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by DarthTedious

I'd really like to see some non-current guys who don't fall into the "chip-on-shoulder," "bat-shit-insane," or "keeping-the-door-open-for-a-return categories say a thing or two. So far I haven't seen anyone like that make a comment on this.

So who would that be?

Pro wrestlers not employed by WWE usually have one of those three, if not ALL three of those same traits.

**Theo Dious** · 07-19-2007, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by KingofOldSchool

So who would that be?

Pro wrestlers not employed by WWE usually have one of those three, if not ALL three of those same traits.

Which, really, is the problem. To me, Jericho is on the best footing there, but even he may be toning it down to keep in the good graces of the company.

**Theo Dious** · 07-19-2007, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Kane Knight

Sabu.
RVD.
Road Dogg
K-Kwik.
Scot Hall.
Test.
Masters.

How do we all keep forgetting about Steiner?

**Kane Knight** · 07-19-2007, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by KingofOldSchool

Yeah even Kurt Angle named a laundry list of pills he was taking, ALL AT THE SAME TIME.

Now if he's still doing it, only he knows (well possibly).

While on WWE's roster.

**Kane Knight** · 07-19-2007, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by KingofOldSchool

So who would that be?

Pro wrestlers not employed by WWE usually have one of those three, if not ALL three of those same traits.

Many of them have those traits in WWE, too.

**KingofOldSchool** · 07-19-2007, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Kane Knight

The more abusive towards the smarks you are, the more the man you are.

Just think about what would happen if Kennedy actually did all of the stuff.

The fans boys would be rushing to have sex with their moms and sisters just so they could say they had sex with Kennedy by proxy.

**KingofOldSchool** · 07-19-2007, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Kane Knight

Many of them have those traits in WWE, too.

Well that goes without saying.

**Kane Knight** · 07-19-2007, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by KingofOldSchool

Just think about what would happen if Kennedy actually did all of the stuff.

The fans boys would be rushing to have sex with their moms and sisters just so they could say they had sex with Kennedy by proxy.

They'd probably hit the money shot while screaming "MISTERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR..."

Seriously, it seems to be the trend. Tell them what they want to hear, and they will defend you rabidly.

And these are supposed to be the "Smart" marks?

"There's no rampant drug abuse. Sure, you can name over a dozen off the top of your head, but that doesn't mean there's rampant drug abuse! Stupid Mero for addressing the elephant in the room. Kennedy was abusive and therefore awesome, and he told me what I need to hear."

**Theo Dious** · 07-19-2007, 10:29 AM

Pretty much the most credible voice to have spoken on this, that is neither on the roster nor an incurable sufferer of those three traits, was Bret Hart, and he really had the most level-headed opinion on it of anyone that I've seen interviewed.

**Kane Knight** · 07-19-2007, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by KingofOldSchool

Well that goes without saying.

It bears pointing out.

If John Cena were, Heaven forbid, FIRED, and spoke freely on the issue, he would be immediately considered bitter, and having a chip on his shoulder.

And he's not even one of the jackasses who is best known for his attitude.

It's a convenient way to dismiss anyone who speaks against WWE. And I know stupid people will say "Well, you're dismissing Keneddy and Cena for being company boys." Which is true. Then again, they're both LYING. And that's clear as crystal. Cena's saying that Benoit wasn't on steroids. That's false. Kennedy's saying the drug program works. It doesn't, and when your own lawyers know less about it than the bitter ex workers...

**KingofOldSchool** · 07-19-2007, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Kane Knight

They'd probably hit the money shot while screaming "MISTERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR..."

Seriously, it seems to be the trend. Tell them what they want to hear, and they will defend you rabidly.

And these are supposed to be the "Smart" marks?

"There's no rampant drug abuse. Sure, you can name over a dozen off the top of your head, but that doesn't mean there's rampant drug abuse! Stupid Mero for addressing the elephant in the room. Kennedy was abusive and therefore awesome, and he told me what I need to hear."

Kind've reminds me of the relationship Butters has with his parents on South Park.

*parents ground Butters for brushing his teeth*

Butters: Buuutttt...I thought you told me to brush my teeth.

Parents: No Butters we said to brush your teeth AFTER you eat, not BEFORE! GO TO YOUR ROOM!

Butters: Awww heck. Okay.

*Butters goes to his room*

*45 minutes laters the parents go up and check on him*

Parents: Butters, you need to understand that what we did was for your own good.

Butters: Yes, ma'am. I understand, sir. You did what you had to do for my own good. Next time I need to check with you before I do anything that foolish.

Parents: ...Well as long as you know.

**Kane Knight** · 07-19-2007, 10:40 AM

Sounds about it.

Though when I think Butters, I think Dresden Files, and "POLKA WILL NEVER DIE!"

07-19-2007, 09:52 AM	#131
Loose Cannon I'm all there is Posts: 31,811	he seems to be not paying attention to our recent examples. do you have selective eye sight?

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Theo Dious EATER OF HOT POCKETS Posts: 14,340	Oh you also forgot about Masters. And Test.

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Theo Dious EATER OF HOT POCKETS Posts: 14,340	I also eat kitten. It's delicious.

07-19-2007, 10:07 AM	#139
Loose Cannon I'm all there is Posts: 31,811	Dark Kane award for forum Douche of 2007: DarthTedious

07-19-2007, 10:11 AM	#143
Loose Cannon I'm all there is Posts: 31,811	wtf? why would you even comment on what is going on exactly right now? nobody is Professor X here. We have current vs past. current, by my watch, is at least 5 years ago till now. I'll even take 1-2 years ago if I had to. Current wrestlers have all benn caught, admited, whatever..to taking drugs, pills etc... Same with past superstars.

07-19-2007, 10:29 AM	#157
Theo Dious EATER OF HOT POCKETS Posts: 14,340	Pretty much the most credible voice to have spoken on this, that is neither on the roster nor an incurable sufferer of those three traits, was Bret Hart, and he really had the most level-headed opinion on it of anyone that I've seen interviewed.

07-19-2007, 10:40 AM	#160
Kane Knight Ron Paul 4 EVA Posts: 152,467	Sounds about it. Though when I think Butters, I think Dresden Files, and "POLKA WILL NEVER DIE!"