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Old 11-07-2007, 12:19 AM   #121
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NL

P--Greg Maddux, San Diego
C--Russell Martin, Los Angeles
1B-- Derrek Lee, Chicago
2B--Orlando Hudson, Arizona
SS--Jimmy Rollins, Philadelphia
3B--David Wright, New York
OF--Jeff Francoeur, Atlanta
OF--Andruw Jones, Atlanta
OF--Aaron Rowand, Philadelphia
OF--Carlos Beltran, New York

4 Outfielders won the award due to a tie in the voting process.
Ok so no one from the best defensive team of all time

makes sense
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Old 11-07-2007, 08:20 AM   #122
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Ok so no one from the best defensive team of all time

makes sense

Its all popularity. Next year I bet Tulowitski wins now that their names are out there.
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Old 11-07-2007, 09:38 AM   #123
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I love Wright and all but him winning the gold glove is nonsense.

On top of his errors I've seen him make countless wide and low throws that Delgado saved from being errors.
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Glad that Schilling is back, Wakefield too. Our pitching should be good again. If we got Santana... wow. I am not too keen on giving up Clay but our starting rotation would be sick.
Giving up a prospect for a proven thing is never a bad move. Esp. if you can sign that proven person to a long term deal. I'd make that trade in a heart beat. Santana is a proven commodity and is still young and at the peak of his game.
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Giving up a prospect for a proven thing is never a bad move. Esp. if you can sign that proven person to a long term deal. I'd make that trade in a heart beat. Santana is a proven commodity and is still young and at the peak of his game.
No shit, I'd send Lester, Buckholtz, Crisp and Hansen in a heart beat.

Could Lester or Bukcholtz win a CY young in the future? possible, but Santana can win one now and he's young and you'd sign him long term.

Beckett, Santana, Dice-K and... and... who the fuck cares at that point, you'd have the best 1-2-3 in baseball locked up for the next 5 years.

sorry, I think I just blew a load thinking about that...
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I'd honestly rather the Mets aim West for a starting pitcher. A guy like Haren, Blanton, or even Cain would work well on the staff. Then go for Santana or someone in the next offseason (unless he gets dealt)
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The first offer is on the table for A-Rod: 8 years, $256 million

That's what I heard at least.......and surely it would have to be the Yankees because aren't they the only team that can talk money with him yet?

Yanks would take a HUGE PR hit if they re-signed him after saying they wouldn't 9 million times...
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The first offer is on the table for A-Rod: 8 years, $256 million

That's what I heard at least.......and surely it would have to be the Yankees because aren't they the only team that can talk money with him yet?

Yanks would take a HUGE PR hit if they re-signed him after saying they wouldn't 9 million times...

I doubt that will be as big a story as everyone is making it out to be. It would be dwarfed by ARods new huge contract.
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Old 11-07-2007, 07:40 PM   #129
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The New York Yankees will offer Alex Rodriguez arbitration according to the New York Post. And while the Yanks hold out only the slimest of hopes A-Rod would accept, there are two other reasons for the decisions.

Teams have until Dec. 1 to offer arbitration to their own free agents, and players must accept or reject by Dec. 7. If the player accepts, he is deemed a signed player and would either negotiate a contract or have an arbitrator decide the outcome.

If a Type-A-rated player such as A-Rod rejects arbitration, the team losing the free agent is rewarded with the new signing team's first-round pick (as long as the signing team finished with one of the majors' 15 best records the year before) and a sandwich pick between the first and second rounds.

Source: New York Post



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Old 11-07-2007, 10:22 PM   #131
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A few tidbits here and there.

Yankees offered Mariano Rivera 3 years $39 mil.

For Miguel Cabrera. Yankees, Red Sox, and the Dodgers are the top contenders. Names flying around to be given up for him are as follows.

Yankees: Melky Cabrera and either Joba Chamberlain, Ian Kennedy, or Phil Hughes. (However, Hank Steinbrenner has stated that he won't be trading any of his prodigy arms.)

Red Sox: Jacoby Ellsbury and Jon Lester or Clay Buccholz.

Dodgers: Matt Kemp and Clayton Kershaw or Jon Meloan.

White Sox and Juan Uribe agree on a 1-year $4.5 mil. deal.

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I think that's a fair deal for Mo.
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A few tidbits here and there.

Yankees offered Mariano Rivera 3 years $39 mil.

For Miguel Cabrera. Yankees, Red Sox, and the Dodgers are the top contenders. Names flying around to be given up for him are as follows.

Yankees: Melky Cabrera and either Joba Chamberlain, Ian Kennedy, or Phil Hughes. (However, Hank Steinbrenner has stated that he won't be trading any of his prodigy arms.)

Red Sox: Jacoby Ellsbury and Jon Lester or Clay Buccholz.

Dodgers: Matt Kemp and Clayton Kershaw or Jon Meloan.

White Sox and Juan Uribe agree on a 1-year $4.5 mil. deal.

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I think that's a fair deal for Mo.
Yeah, not to expensive good job. Andy don't keep us waiting to long man . Just getting Pettitte and Posada back to go. I heard about the Yankees not going after Miguel. As long as they don't mind trading Ian etc. for Santana I don't mind. Miguel isn't really one of our needs. We need another starter to back up these 3 rookies.
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Just dug this up.

Wow. I know the Yankees are crazy and got money. But this is borderline insane.

According to MLBTradeRumors.com, the Yankees believe a package of Melky Cabrera, Chien-Ming Wang, and Ian Kennedy will get the Twins to trade Santana
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The Yankees would be crazy not to include Kennedy in a deal for Cabrera. They apparently are saying there is no way they trade any of the big three pitchers for a bat but if Kennedy is needed to get Cabrera they should do it.

If the Yankees stick to what they have right now they will have one of the worst pairing of corner infielders offensively. I know pitching wins but when you have such little production at 1st and 3rd it is tough. If you get Cabrera (even if he has to move to 1st) it makes putting Betemit at third everyday a whole lot easier.
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I don't think the Yankees would ever do that. You gain an ace but you lose your center-fielder, your current "ace" and another part of your rotation. Definitely not worth it. If they do that they could possibly be looking for a catcher, closer, third baseman, center fielder and starting pitcher this winter. Also, Wang would probably be terrible pitching on turf more times than not and I think the Twins realize that.
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Just dug this up.

Wow. I know the Yankees are crazy and got money. But this is borderline insane.

According to MLBTradeRumors.com, the Yankees believe a package of Melky Cabrera, Chien-Ming Wang, and Ian Kennedy will get the Twins to trade Santana
Johan Santana
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Joba Chamberlain
Mike Mussina

Not a bad starting 5, if you really think about it. Think about it this way. Santana is a huge upgrade over Wang. Kennedy isn't even guaranteed a rotation spot this year. Normally I'd hate trading any of these guys but Santana is a proven commodity and is still young.

The only real loss is Melky Cabrera. You'd have to believe the Yankees would push hard for Torii Hunter or Andruw Jones if that's the case, however. I'd rather have Hunter, at this point. I love Melky but it's not like he's an excellent player or anything. He's a good defender with a great arm and an ok bat. He's a fun player, but I don't know, it looks like if the Yankees can swing these deals they'd make the team a lot better. I'd hate to see him go, though.

The real problem, however, is a complete lack of a bat in the corner infield positions, as Dragon pointed out. We'd need to plug that hole in free agency, and there just aren't any decent options out there.

Internally, I've often wondered if Matsui could play 1st base, that way Giambi can DH instead of sitting on the bench as the most useless player in major league baseball, but I don't know.

You know what would be really scary? If they got Bonds to play 1st base.
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Another real issue is the bullpen... we need another arm or two most likely. I wonder if we'll go after Gagne.
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I honestly don't think Johan is going anywhere this off-season. But he'll certainly be dealt somewhere if the Twins are out of it by July 31st.
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I don't think he's going anywhere. I think the Yankees should just bid on him when he becomes a free agent in 2009. Bonderman, CC Sabathia and Jake Peavy will also be free agents.

Imagine this team opening up the new Yankee stadium:

C - Jorge Posada
1B - Mark Teixiera
2B - Robinson Cano
SS - Derek Jeter
3B - Miguel Cabrera
LF - Johnny Damon
CF - Melky Cabrera
RF - Austin Jackson

SP - Johan Santana
SP - Jake Peavy
SP - Phil Hughes
SP - Joba Chamberlain
SP - Chien Ming-Wang

CL - Mariano Rivera
RP - Humberto Sanchez
RP - Brad Lidge
RP - Ross Ohlendorf
RP - Kevin Whalen
RP - Jose Veras

It could happen...
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Phillies acquire RHP Brad Lidge and infielder Eric Bruntlett from the Astros for outfielder Michael Bourn, RHP Geoff Geary and third baseman Mike Costanzo.

Great move by the Phillies. Allows Brett Myers to start again, which is better than they could have done on the free agent market or by trade. Lidge has stud closer potential, and at the very least will be an upgrade over Myers who will give the Phillies another solid starter to follow Cole Hamels.
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I was going to do what FakeRazor did but I might as well just type out the Red Sox current roster.
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Dodgers gonna go after Cabrera, hard.
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Ellsbury aint goin anywhere. Him and Pedroia are the goods.
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Red Sox: Jacoby Ellsbury and Jon Lester or Clay Buccholz.
never going to happen.

Ellsbury isn't on the market and if he was it sure wouldn't be with a top pitching prospect for Cabrera.

I think they get a deal done for Lowell, if they don't, maybe they make a deal for Cabrera but it wont include Ellsbury.
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I honestly don't think Johan is going anywhere this off-season. But he'll certainly be dealt somewhere if the Twins are out of it by July 31st.

I think he moves now. The Twins have more leverage. If they wait for the Deadline, they will be on a sellers market, vice the off season buyers market. They would be trading for 80 cents on the dollar.
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That would be stupid, with Loney at 1st and LaRoche coming up, to sign a fat player with no defensive skill.
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Nothing much happened overnight execpt for the Brad Lidge deal.

"The Gambler" Kenny Rogers wants to play again. Tigers would love to bring him back in, but the wants to test the free agent market first.

Before I start posting news on Japanese players, anybody knows who this year's "Dice K" is?
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Good pickup for the Phillies if they get the Lidge of 04-05. Allows them to move their best pitcher back into the rotation.
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Braves want Glavine back. I wonder if he'd sign there for a 1 or 2 year deal and then become a bench boss. How much gas does he have left in the tank.
Angels admit (big surprise) to being interested in ARod
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Word is Clemens is going to retire
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Report: Yankees to offer A-Rod arbitration
November 7, 2007
NEW YORK (TICKER) -- Alex Rodriguez apparently could remain a New York Yankee yet.
According to a report in the New York Post on Wednesday, the Yankees are ready to reverse their position of not dealing with Rodriguez in free agency by offering the All-Star third baseman arbitration. While it is unlikely Rodriguez would accept a one-year deal, that would be fine by the Yankees, who want to use arbitration to get something in return for the soon-to-be American League Most Valuable Player.

"It is about the two draft picks," Yankees general manager Brian Cashman told the paper. "By offering arbitration, we get the first-round pick of the team that signs him and a sandwich pick."

The Yankees have until December 1 to offer Rodriguez arbitration, which the player has until December 7 to accept or reject.
If he accepted, Rodriguez would surrender contractual benefits like his no-trade clause, but it would likely open the door to negotiate a new long-term deal with the Yankees.
The Yankees have said they would not attempt to re-sign Rodriguez after he opted out of the final three years of a 10-year, $252 million contract.
During the ongoing general manager's meetings in Orlando, several GMs have sounded reluctant to pursue Rodriguez given the sums - up to $350 million over 10 years - being suggested it will take. However, Rodriguez's agent reportedly has meetings scheduled with the New York Mets and Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim with the teams expected to discuss the parameters of a possible deal.
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What do you guys make of MLB deciding to implement instant replay on questionable HRs/foul balls?

As of 2009, I believe it said.
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Yeah I see Glavine signing a 1-year deal with Atlanta to reunite with Smoltz

Imagine if on July 31st the Pads are out of it so the Braves pick Maddux back up? I bet the three of them will all retire on the same year so they can be HOF eligible at the same time
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Gold Gloves announced:

NL

P--Greg Maddux, San Diego
C--Russell Martin, Los Angeles
1B-- Derrek Lee, Chicago
2B--Orlando Hudson, Arizona
SS--Jimmy Rollins, Philadelphia
3B--David Wright, New York
OF--Jeff Francoeur, Atlanta
OF--Andruw Jones, Atlanta
OF--Aaron Rowand, Philadelphia
OF--Carlos Beltran, New York

4 Outfielders won the award due to a tie in the voting process.
god that is such bullshit that Brandon Phillips didn't win the 2B gold glove. He lead all NL 2B in fielding % and even though it shouldn't matter in the voting process he was either the 1st or 2nd best offensive 2B in the NL this year too. What the fuck did Orlando Hudson do? Does anybody know where Orlando Hudson ranked among qualified 2B in the NL for fielding %? SEVENTH

how does this award have any credibility at all
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As of 2009, I believe it said.
not signing on to this. I think it's stupid for baseball to have
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Michael Silverman of the Boston Herald reports “whispers” that the Padres are letting teams know that Jake Peavy is available.
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