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Old 11-17-2008, 08:20 PM   #121
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Good point, suppose it would suck to open a stadium to silence because the PA system wasn't installed properly or something.
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Old 11-18-2008, 08:32 AM   #122
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One thing I never got - why is rookie status determined by at-bats and not plate appearances? If you exceed 130 ABs as a hitter, you are not a rookie for the next year. But if you walk, it doesn't count towards the total. Odd.

I just realized that Daniel Murphy had 131 ABs on the year to kill his chances for 2009 ROY If he had walked instead of striking out in his pinch-hitting appearance on the last day of the year, he'd still be rookie eligible.
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Old 11-18-2008, 10:16 AM   #123
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Going to make a bit of a bold prediction here...

Andruw Jones will regain his form next year.
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Old 11-18-2008, 10:31 AM   #124
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Going to make a bit of a bold prediction here...

Andruw Jones will regain his form next year.
What form is the to regain? He has bee sliding for a few years now, makes me wonder if he was juicing.
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My AL MVP Predictions. Let's see if I get this one right too.

1. Dustin Pedroia
2. Justin Morneau
3. Francisco Rodriguez
4. Carlos Quentin
5. Josh Hamilton
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Oh and Andruw Jones is done. He may be able to hit 20 HR's if he has enough at-bats, but his batting average will be hovering around .200
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Going to make a bit of a bold prediction here...

Andruw Jones will regain his form next year.
Flubber always regains it's natural form. Didn't you know that.
 
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Pedroia wins AL MVP, Morneau second
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Old 11-18-2008, 02:57 PM   #130
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Pedroia? Terrible, IMO
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I think it's fair. I would have been ok with any of Pedroia, Morneau, or Youkilis winning.

I mean the Red Sox lineup went through a lot of turmoil this year and only had 3 guys qualify for the batting title.

Really nobody stood out from the pack enough to be a runaway candidate.
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If you watched enough Red Sox games this season you would see that Pedroia came through in the clutch more than anybody in the AL. He spent parts of the season hitting leadoff and clean-up. Won a gold glove, silver slugger, led the league in hits, runs, and doubles. And his team made the playoffs. What more do you want?
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Very surprised that Youkilis finished third, I thought the votes would have been split between him and Pedroia and he would have finished 5-6.
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The Reds are apparently seriously interested in trading for Garrett Atkins from Colorado. Not sure what they're offering in return but Bruce won't be involved. Dunno about Cueto though.
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one reporter had him off his ballot completely...

they have the reporter on the local radio station now and they're killing this guy.

This guy has no good argument.. They keep asking him why and comparing people and all he says "i just thought..."

At least the guy from Chicago years ago who didn't vote for Pedro at all said "I'll never put a pitcher on my list".
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A's bench coach Don Wakamatsu is the new skipper of the Mariners
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I think Joey Cora will wind up being a better major league manager, but Wakamatsu is a good choice for Seattle. I don't know if he knows any Japanese, but maybe he can finally reach out to Ichiro and pull his head out of his ass.
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I had a class canceled today and thus, a sudden influx of free time. So I went ahead and planned out what would be my dream offseason for the Mets.

With about $25 million available to spend for the 2009 season (probably more factoring in stadium naming rights and ticket prices going up), here's what I'd like to see:

1. Sign K-Rod: He's overrated, but I trust him a lot more than Brian Fuentes and I'm afraid of Wood. They are trying to give him 3 with 2 option years, but odds are they'll have to go 4 guaranteed. Either way, make it backloaded so it doesn't eat the offseason budget.

2. Sign Derek Lowe: I'm REALLY leery of giving another old pitcher a 4 year deal right after finally getting Pedro off the books, but he's been crafty and consistent, and will probably go for less than bringing back Oliver Perez due to not being young and left-handed.

3. Sign Joe Beimel: The lefty tandem of Scott Schoeneweis and Pedro Feliciano just didn't cut it last year. Beimel should certainly be an upgrade, I'm expecting he'll get a similar deal to what Jeremy Affeldt got from the Giants.

4. Trade Schoeneweis or Feliciano: Once you get Beimel, there's no point in having three lefty relievers. Try to trade one of the two other guys, take anything you can get in return. Schoeneweis had the better year last year of the two, but is much more expensive. Surely someone would be interested though.

5. Trade Aaron Heilman: Get him the fuck out, one way or another.

6.. Trade for Huston Street: I keep hearing two things - the Rockies want to trade Street and are one of the only teams still interested in Heilman. Supposedly, they would trade Heilman and make him a starter again, something Heilman's been begging for since 2006. If they really like him like I hear they do, I'm hoping maybe something like Heilman, Nick Evans, and change could get it done...if so, I'd jump at it.

6. Trade Luis Castillo: This is not gonna be easy, as Minaya's stupid contract means Castillo still has 3 more years to go. If he goes, it would certainly be as a part of a "crap for crap" swap, which is just fine with me.

7. Sign Orlando Hudson: Obviously, this can only happen if Castillo is traded. Hudson's deal would also most likely have to be backloaded in order to squeeze into the budget. I really like O-Dawg and supposedly he wants to be a Met...but it all depends on if Luis can be offloaded.

Doing all that would leave the team with:

C Brian Schneider/Ramon Castro
1B Carlos Delgado
2B Orlando Hudson
SS Jose Reyes
3B David Wright
LF Daniel Murphy/someone else to platoon with him (Angel Pagan maybe?)
CF Carlos Beltran
RF Ryan Church

LH Johan Santana
RH Derek Lowe
RH Mike Pelfrey
RH John Maine
LH Jonathon Niese

RH Francisco Rodriguez (Closer)
RH Huston Street
LH Joe Beimel
LH Pedro Feliciano or LH Scott Schoeneweis
RH Joe Smith
Then 2 of: RH Bobby Parnell, RH Eddie Kunz, RH Duaner Sanchez, RH Brian Stokes, or anyone else brought into Spring Training

Bench: Backup C, OF Endy Chavez, OF Angel Pagan, a utility infielder (possibly bring back Damion Easley), and someone else to fill in the last spot

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Do I see all of that happening? Nope, but I think it would be one hell of a team.
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To me pitchers just pitched to Pedroia, he didn't strike fear into them like a Morneau would.
I dunno.
Guys as player, don't get me wrong, I'd take him on my team.
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I dunno.
Guys as player, don't get me wrong, I'd take him on my team.
The question that always comes up is can you have a "League MVP" if the team isn't in the playoffs or atleast close.

I watched a lot of Pedoria, I don't think they pitched to him, they also didn't pitch around him... (I know that doesn't make sense...) it wasn't like how many made Ortiz better because they'd pitch to Ortiz cause they didn't want to pitch to manny (and sometimes vice versa).

with all the injuries, he really didn't have protection... maybe at somepoint you could argue Youke when he hit #2...

I just can't see this guy who left him off the ballet... especially when he said he had him as #1 for MVP most the season and when they kept asking specificly what changed his mind he had no answer.

Anyway.. off-season is here... word is Derek Lowe wants to come back to the East Coast... he's divorced his wife and hopefully controlling his drinking, if so, love to have him back.

he was the MVP of that 04 champ, he pitched every big game in the off-season.
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According to a sports radio station in Kansas City, the Red Sox have traded Coco Crisp to the Royals for reliever Ramon Ramirez. I haven't seen any of Ramirez's work, but he has posted respectable numbers the last two years in KC and Colorado. They are also saving a shit load of money too as Ramirez isn't eligible for arbitration until 2012. Not sure what to make of it though as Coco really picked up at the end of the season when Ellsbury started slumping.
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Time to have a nice big glass of LOL:

In a recent report for FoxSports.com, Ken Rosenthal says free-agent RHP Derek Lowe is seeking a ‘Zito-type contract,’ according to executives with two different teams.



I mean, I guess it makes sense for him to shoot for the moon while the Yanks are still hunting for starters...but once they lock up Sabathia and Burnett, his price SHOULD drop. But my God...
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I don't think Lowe's price will drop after Sabathia and Burnett sign. He becomes the top starting pitcher on the market after them. Boras can claim that he is better in the playoffs than Sabathia and is more durable than Burnett so he should be making around the same as they do. Typical Boras claims.

In the end, Lowe will probably sign for $14-15 million for three years with an east-coast team. And yes I know that I just contradicted myself.
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That's just it though. Saying he wants a Zito like contract means he wants 6 or 7 years for well over $100 million. As good as Lowe's been, anybody who commits to a 35 year old for anything longer than 4 guaranteed is batshit crazy.
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yeah, cause Zito's deal turned out great.

It's Borus... what did we expect?

it's interesting that the economy is effecting sports... Nascarr is in big trouble, Golf is having issues with sponers pulling out.

Football expects to get hit because one of the top 2 advertisers/sponsers are auto companies.

if people are having trouble paying their mortgage, they aren't going to renew their 50/seat baseball tickets.

Mets/Yanks should still make a splash with the new stadium.

Lowe is a good lefty who has a good post-season record.

As for the Coco trade, it made sense... Ellsbury did slump, but he will be the future, we get a great set-up or specialist and a low price/future.

Also, there is talk Masterson may be a starter next year, so that role gets filled.
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Lowe is a righty...

Anyway, according to Ken Rosenthal, Mussina is hanging 'em up.
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I always enjoyed Moose even though he was a Yankee. He was awesome as an Oriole and until this year he was probably going to be the greatest starting pitcher to never win 20 games.

I hope the Sox keep Masterson in the bullpen, he did good as a starter but I think he will find his calling setting up for Paps. They should be able to find a reliable starter on the market.
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J.P Ricchardi said in a report that he probably isn't gonna sign anyone. That's great, because our hitting was SOOOOOO good last year, and it's not like we didn't lose our #2 pitcher to Free Agency, our #3 to Tommy John surgery and our #4 just returning from major arm surgery or anything.
 
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JAVIER VAZQUEZ STILL FUCKING SUCKS
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Mets rumor: Could be trading a package of prospects including F Mart for Bobby Jenks and Jermaine Dye.

Not sure what I think of it yet. What you think of it BV?
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Padres trade Khalil Green to the Cardinals for 2 prospects to be named.

Looks like Edgar Renteria is on his way to San Francisco.

And winter meetings start today!
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Khalil Green, if he could ever get his batting Avg. up, he`d be something to fear with all the extra protection that he`ll have in the Cardinal line up.
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Vazquez's Era will drop .50 with the league change, so he is a viable 3rd pitcher in the NL, for cheap. The guy eats up innings and has a huge K total.

I like that move for the Braves.

If they land Peavy and somehow sign a bat, they could contend in the east.



Any word on where Dunn is going? I really thought the Jays should haev made a run at him.
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Yeah, if Greene could bat .290, he would be a great threat in front of Pujols.
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I think Dunn will probably wind up in Washington. They don't need another outfielder, but Bowden loves him some OF and will find a way to give Dunn, Willingham, Dukes, and Kearns AB's. Maybe Nick Johnson could be on his way out if they sign Dunn.

And I think Javier Vazquez slept with Dave Wadding's relative while spending a season in Arizona. That has to be the reason he hates him so much.
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Greg Maddux expected to announce his retirement at the Winter Meetings. Maddux was the second best pitcher of his time in terms of longevity and is the smartest baseball player to ever touch the rubber. If he wants, he can have any pitching coach job he wants right now.

In other news, David Ross signs a 2-year deal to be McCann's backup in Atlanta.
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Everybody is waiting.

According to Pete Gammons, CC Sabathia won't make a move until Mark Teixeira signs, and Derek Lowe won't make a move until Sabathia signs.

This is gonna be a long offseason if this is the case.
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