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Old 10-28-2009, 12:48 AM   #121
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Old 10-28-2009, 01:44 AM   #122
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i dont see why everyone is like 'r.i.p tna'
this is the best thing to happen business wise to tna, although hogan cant and probably won't wrestle anymore his draw factor is so huge that even just being at the company will sell tickets and pull ratings, and with the added bonus of eric bischoff (possibly in creative) i cant see how this could fail, you remember eric bischoff right? the guy that had vince McMahon on the ropes and ended wwf's total domination for over 2 years.
not only are wrestling magazines and websites talking about this but entertainment media aswell, hogan is not only a wrestler but also a celebrity, as james steele said, this is the 'all or nothing moment' and i fail to see how this could go wrong
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Old 10-28-2009, 02:05 AM   #123
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People are iin the wrong place - bischoff should be involved in creative (bye bye Russo). Hogan should be promoting and MAYBE one or 2 matches a year.

As for Flair coming in, unless he comes in as a monster heel I don't really care. These old fuckers should all come in as heels and get the younger talent over. If Styles jobs to Hogan TNA is over.
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Old 10-28-2009, 05:24 AM   #124
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Flair as a monster heel?

Come on.

I could see him as Herbert from Family Guy type of heel maybe.
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seriously! Mr Saggy tits could come in and shoot on Vince forcing him to retire then turn on one of the babyfaces "breaing" their leg in a figure 4.
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Old 10-28-2009, 10:34 AM   #127
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Flair as a monster heel?

Come on.

I could see him as Herbert from Family Guy type of heel maybe.
Now THAT would be funny.
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This is interesting. I can understand why some people would not be "happy," about this, per se; but from a business perspective this is fantastic for TNA. Hulk Hogan, along with Stone Cold Steve Austin and The Rock, is probably one of the only "mainstream" wrestling names there is. Everyone knows who the fuck Hulk Hogan is, and that makes whatever Hogan is doing somewhat relevant in the eyes of many people.

He may not be a fantastic wrestler (and he may not have ever been), but he is a celebrity, and one of the truest draws wrestling has ever had. I am far from a Hogan fan, but even I find myself buying into the hysteria occasionally. I actually bought one of his DVDs once, which surprises me in retrospect, and I was marking along with fucking Toronto when he was facing The Rock.

This, combined with TNA actually getting their priorities straight, creatively (which they have seemed to be doing lately), and giving us matches like AJ vs. Joe vs. Daniels and Angle vs. Desmond Wolfe -- I really want to see them succeed. And worst case scenario is this: TNA folds, the WWE picks up the talented workers, and ROH becomes the default #2.

I'm not sure what else TNA plans -- but if they sign Ken Anderson, Eddie Fatu, Paul London, Brian Kendrick and even Kim Couture to contracts -- I will be very excited. Hell, Rob Van Dam has even been dropping TNA hints lately, saying that he would be closer to his family.

I don't think this will instantly make TNA a threat to the WWE, or anything, but I think having a legitimate draw like Hulk Hogan will allow them to develop further, get more mainstream attention, and if they position themselves right, be seen as a major underdog against the WWE. I think they are turning a profit now, so they're doing a good thing.
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Old 10-28-2009, 11:32 AM   #129
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Ric Flair signing would also be huge. I can actually imagine your casual WWE fan talking to another casual WWE fan:

"Dude! Ric Flair is still around!"
"What, I thought he retired?"
"No! Apparently he's now in this TNA place, with Hulk Hogan."
"Shit! I gotta check this out!"

*A few days later*

"Man, those Motor City Machine Guns are really fucking cool!"
"Yeah, and they're really funny, too!"

If they manage to keep Hogan as a figure, as people have said, and this doesn't effect TNA's creative process much, if at all, then I can see this being a really good thing for the entire product.
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Old 10-28-2009, 11:59 AM   #130
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Who honestly thinks Hogan won't politic?

He's going to destroy TNA from the inside out.
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Old 10-28-2009, 01:38 PM   #131
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Flair as a monster heel?

Come on.

I could see him as Herbert from Family Guy type of heel maybe.
I'd watch Ric Flair try to molest the Motor City Machine Guns

there's no way to word that sentence without it sounding bad
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If Bubba The Love Sponge is to be believed, that is exactly what will happen soon. On his Twitter page, Bubba continually referred to Hogan as "the boss" (I wonder how Bobby Lashley will feel about that!). When asked what role Hogan will play in TNA, Bubba said, "he is the Booker. Period. Saw it in his contract". He also added that "Terry and Eric won't make the same mistakes that they made at WCW."

Thanks to Nick Ferro for his help with this story.
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Old 10-28-2009, 03:05 PM   #133
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nah nah nah nah, nah nah nah nah

HEY HEY HEY

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Old 10-28-2009, 03:11 PM   #134
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Those saying TNA needs Eric Bischoff on the booking team clearly don't understand the behind the scenes workings of WCW. Bischoff never was the booker. He was executive VP and then president. He was in charge of WCW operations. The actual booking was handled by the likes of Flair, Rhodes, Sullivan and Nash, with Eric having final say. The top guys pretty much booked themselves too.

Eric was more of an 'ideas' guy. If he contributes some of those ideas (from the same pool that cruiserweights, nWo, and Monday night head-to-head showdowns came from) then he could be an asset to TNA. As a booker, he is untested.

Also, whoever it was who said "Bookers > Wrestlers" is talking shit. Bookers don't draw merchandise sales, PPV buys and TV ratings. Maybe their creative minds lead to that, but no sensible promoter would choose their (non-wrestler) booker over a star performer. Maybe when Vince Russo vs Bryan Gerwertz posts a monster buy rate that will change. Maybe when casual wrestling fans tune in on a Friday night specifically to find out what Michael Hayes has dreamed up this week, things will be different. Until then, it's Wrestler > Booker.
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I agree with you to a point. But when it comes down to it, Creative is who should be leading the majority of the direction of a character, NOT the wrestler. Of course they can contribute, but when it comes down to it, the bookers' major plans should take precedent over a wrestlers' major plans.
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Old 10-28-2009, 03:55 PM   #136
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i wonder what double j will do now hogan taken over his company
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Old 10-28-2009, 04:42 PM   #137
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I would LMAO if Jarrett tries to crawl back to Vince.
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hogan/tna is already working. Everyone is talking about this and noone is going on about orton/cena no.5563678632 in a cell surround by crocodiles in jello.

Bischoff had final say and ideas which is the role tna needs him to play. I think bischoff has the ego , drive and downright obsession to defeat wwe. however looking at from another angle, we have wcw cast circa 2000 in tna. Time will tell
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That's because Orton/Cena is over.
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lol just read about him having control in TNA. Apparently 'the only person he has to answer to is Mr. Dixon'. Not even Dixie herself. lol. Hogan is the man.
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Who is Mr. Dixon? Checked the TNA and Panda Energy wiki and found nothing.
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LOL. Why the fuck would I put Mr. Dixon. Getting Dixie mixed up with the last name. Meant to say Mr. Carter
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And who the hell is Mr Carter?
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Hogan is going to tear a quad on his first appearance on Impact.

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The man that pays Kurt Angle and co's wages
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Uhm, Dixie Carter is a woman, and her husband's last name is Salinas, so the question still stands.
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Dixie Carter is only the 'president' of TNA. Her parents, namely her father, owners of Panda Energy, own the company.
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Old 10-28-2009, 08:33 PM   #151
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I feel like they could do a lot with Hogan and Bishoff. I would be interested in Bishoff taking over the company on screen. Eventually talking about the past between WWE and WCW and evetually starting another Monday Night Wars. Eventually.
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Old 10-28-2009, 08:42 PM   #152
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Hogan is going to tear a quad on his first appearance on Impact.

Taz: Usually the Big Boot has the other guy on the ground crying, whoa!
Ur thinking of Nash
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maybe hogan will die in the tna ring
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Hopefully TNA aren't stupid enough to give Hogan control of the entire company. Hopefully.
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Hogan will draw attention and all you fuckers will be tuning into TNA whether you admit it or not.
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1 - Never compared myself to anyone. I said people don't question journalists on their sources. And I'm still not naming mine.

2 - I never taunted anyone.

3 - It was a fact. You can think it's me not being humble. I say it's me telling it like it is.




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Who doesn't get questioned on their sources?

Maybe a news source (CNN, Fox News, etc) doesn't always get questioned on their source by the public in general, but the journalist themselves are questioned on the source...whether it be by the public, the editors, or the news director. When news is reported in the paper or on tv, the public merely assumes it to be true because those reports must be confirmed before being reported or the news source will be in legal trouble.

You posted your headline on a internet message board which sources are not checked, and which a member was in his right to ask about. It's actually something very encouraged these days...and even considered "common sense" to ask. So to say that you, a journalist, shouldn't be questioned on how he came to his information is ludicrous.

And don't get me wrong. As a former reader of "The Ticking Timebomb", I take what you say seriously, but it doesn't mean you have instant credibility in everything you say to everyone here. You don't want to share your source, that's fine...but don't put up some bullshit about how people shouldn't question your information.
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Rob is always right. I had to learn that like everyone else does, though. New guys will always question you, big man. Don't take it as an insult -- just make new fans.
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If this leads to Eric Bischoff becoming the new authority figure on-air, I will love it. Few are better at that job than The Bisch. As for Mick Foley, if TNA gets a second show, I'd love for him to go back to the commentary desk. Foley became a really good color analyst, in my opinion. I liked the way he unbiasedly assessed things, and brought a "well, I hate to break this to you Cole/JR, but it goes like this..." aspect to the table.
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So, Impact debuts on Freeview (free digital TV, as apose to paid cable/Sky) over here in the UK tomorrow night. The blurb for the show mentions Hogan debuting, but that can't be right, surely? Wasn't this weeks show taped 2 weeks ago?

Either way, if it is true (or if he debuts in the next couple weeks) it could be a good thing for getting the TNA brand out there in the UK at least as the deal with Virgin (the channel showing Impact) is a month long - I am led to believe - to "test the waters".
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Hogan did an interview with Time Magazine, apparently, and this is what he reportedly said on signing with TNA:

"When I woke up and realized I should be my own man and be responsible for being happy, I realized I still have a lot to contribute to the wrestling business. And jumping into TNA [Total Nonstop Action] and being a part of that company is huge. I have a chance to give back and help these young wrestlers who don't understand the business and the art form."

To me, that started off good, but then it got more shady towards the end. "Teaching them the art form" could be taken in a constructive "giving them backstage advice" way -- but it could also mean Hogan will show them how to strap on a World Title belt. But then again, "giving back" could just mean Hogan wants to work with a smaller competitor, and give them the rub just by showing up.

I'm very curious, but Hogan as TNA World Heavyweight Champion is not something I am particularly interested in seeing.
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