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Old 11-10-2009, 02:46 AM   #121
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From what I read the two year deal only guarantees him 5M over the two years instead of the 8 he would have got. $3.5 next year and $1.5M in 2011 with incentives that could push it to 7M over the two years. I guess they wanted to save a little money in case he gets injured.

Red Sox are lucky Wakefield really loves it there though. Does seem a little strange to get cheap on a couple million when the guy has seemingly played for below his market value his whole career with the Sox.
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Old 11-10-2009, 02:50 AM   #122
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Looking back at Wakefield's contracts over the years its pretty surprising when you see that he's had pretty much the same contract for the last 10+ years. Especially in recent years when you consider average starters were making 10 million a year.

Seems like one of the few (probably only) guys that doesn't care about making top dollar.
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Old 11-10-2009, 02:58 AM   #123
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Its rare to get a good knuckleball pitcher to begin with and even rarer for them to be good for a long stretch of years. Its mostly due to how slow they pitch and the unpredictableness of the pitch itself.

I bet he realized this early on in his career and figured that if he asked for a low value, the team would be more likely to keep him than just toss away once he got to a certain age.

The strange part is Red Sox actually have another knuckleball pitcher in the minor leagues so if they want the future rotation to include a knuckleballer, they have one ready in Pawtucket/Portland.
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Really can't wait for the FA signing period to start. Just like every other year, two completely different reports about what the Mets are gonna do.

One says they are gonna go after the top guys...another says they feel Holliday and Bay will be "too expensive" for them.

"Too expensive" for a NY team? When you are charging up the ass for tickets and set a new franchise attendance record despite having a terrible year? Christ, it's no wonder why the Mets will always be the #2 team in NY.

Gonna be so pissed if they just sign Randy Wolf and someone like Jermaine Dye and call it an off-season.
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Old 11-10-2009, 11:48 AM   #125
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Varitek intends to exercise his option.
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Obviously Varitek will want to come back, but good for the Red Sox not paying him $5 million, he really isn't worth $3 right now
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Mets just picked up a big bat. They've signed 43 year old slugger Albert Bell to a 5 million dollar 1 year deal.
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Old 11-10-2009, 04:21 PM   #133
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Really can't wait for the FA signing period to start. Just like every other year, two completely different reports about what the Mets are gonna do.

One says they are gonna go after the top guys...another says they feel Holliday and Bay will be "too expensive" for them.

"Too expensive" for a NY team? When you are charging up the ass for tickets and set a new franchise attendance record despite having a terrible year? Christ, it's no wonder why the Mets will always be the #2 team in NY.

Gonna be so pissed if they just sign Randy Wolf and someone like Jermaine Dye and call it an off-season.
After seeing this it has to be a just a lay low tactic that they did with the k Rod contract and Beltran and all the others, because lets be honest The Mets HAVE to attack this off season with a vengeance! If not they can just kiss the fans goodbye.

A quote I read off Metsblog had me laughing because its 100% true.
“Omar Minaya expected the salary demands of Matt Holliday and Jason Bay to be too high for the Mets.”

In response, Anthony De Rosa of Hotfoot writes, “If Holliday and Bay are too expensive for the Mets, your tickets are too expensive for me.”

Nothing gets done this off season that gives me hope as a fan, Citi and the Mets will not be getting any of my business, just like I refused to go this year.
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Your 2009 American League Glove Winners.

C: Joe Mauer (Twins)
1B: Mark Teixeira (Yankees)
2B: Placidio Polanco (Tigers)
3B: Evan Longoria (Rays)
SS: Derek Jeter (Yankees)
OF: Torii Hunter (Angels)
OF: Ichiro Suzuki (Mariners)
OF: Adam Jones (Orioles)
P: Mark Buehrle (White Sox)
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Old 11-10-2009, 05:42 PM   #135
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Laird should've won for Catcher. Led the all catchers in fielding % and runners caught stealing. But he's got a sub .700 OPS so not a chance.
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Old 11-10-2009, 05:50 PM   #136
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Gold Gloves are an absolute joke anyway.

Buerhle has been good defensively for years but finally wins a Gold Glove in a year he pitches a perfect game. HMMMMM
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Some rumored talks about being Cole Hamels being traded for Roy Halladay.

Yeah I love Roy Halladay, but I wouldn't do it.
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lol Derek Jeter winning a gold glove.
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After seeing this it has to be a just a lay low tactic that they did with the k Rod contract and Beltran and all the others, because lets be honest The Mets HAVE to attack this off season with a vengeance! If not they can just kiss the fans goodbye.

A quote I read off Metsblog had me laughing because its 100% true.
“Omar Minaya expected the salary demands of Matt Holliday and Jason Bay to be too high for the Mets.”

In response, Anthony De Rosa of Hotfoot writes, “If Holliday and Bay are too expensive for the Mets, your tickets are too expensive for me.”

Nothing gets done this off season that gives me hope as a fan, Citi and the Mets will not be getting any of my business, just like I refused to go this year.
I hope you're right. Another point is that I really hope sluggers don't turn down the Mets because they are afraid their numbers will be hurt in Citi. It's not like it's impossible to hit home runs there, plus there are still 81 road games to play.

I'll invariably go to a game this year, I always go to at least one or two every year. Last year I went to four despite the team becoming more and more irrelevant each time and I was 0-4 when I went. But now the thrill and intrigue of a new stadium is no longer there. I'm sure a lot of fans feel that same way.
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Some rumored talks about being Cole Hamels being traded for Roy Halladay.

Yeah I love Roy Halladay, but I wouldn't do it.
Why not? Halladay is a really awesome pitcher. If I were you I'd do it. Even if this was a bad year for Cole and he bounces back.
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Why not? Halladay is a really awesome pitcher. If I were you I'd do it. Even if this was a bad year for Cole and he bounces back.
Cause I guarantee you can make the Cy young award in Cole Hamels image next year.

Also Hamels is under contract for the next 3 years I think.
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dunno, that could be hit or miss. Hamels may or may not bouce back, but Halladay may be on the downspin of his career soon.
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Cause I guarantee you can make the Cy young award in Cole Hamels image next year.

Also Hamels is under contract for the next 3 years I think.
I guess straight up sounds like to good of a deal to pass up for someone like Halladay. If it was a package that I could understand but Cole straight up for Halladay sounds kinda good. But maybe that's just because there is no way Halladay would ever come to the Yankees straight up for anyone.

What if Toronto asked for a Happ package instead for Halladay?
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It wouldn't be straight up. I don't know the details yet. I highly doubt Hamels will be traded.

I would trade Happ in a heartbeat. However if the Phillies didn't want to part with Happ in July when Halladay had a year and half left on his contract. I doubt they part with Happ now.
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lol Derek Jeter winning a gold glove.
Surprisingly he actually deserved it this year (unlike the other 3 or 4). His defense was actually really good compared to past years. Not sure if he was statistically the best AL SS but last time I checked he was up there this year.
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Surprisingly he actually deserved it this year (unlike the other 3 or 4). His defense was actually really good compared to past years. Not sure if he was statistically the best AL SS but last time I checked he was up there this year.
I will take your word for it, Dragon. I withdraw my lol.
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While Jeter was better than in previous years this year (I thought players are supposed to get worse when they age, particularly defensively... more proof that he's a cyborg) Jeter still wasn't even in the top 3 defensively.

Cesar Izturis, Elvis Andrus, Adam Everett, and Erick Aybar were all ahead of him statistically, but all of them were all fairly no-namish.

Jack Wilson blew them all away statistically but he mainly played in the NL this year.

I'm annoyed that Franklin Gutierrez didn't win the award for outfield despite destroying everyone else defensively.

http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.asp...n=2009&month=0

http://www.fieldingbible.com/
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So Varitek is going to talk over picking up his player option with Boras. Uh oh.
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Reds are looking to deal Brandon Phillips to cut payroll.

Good to know now so I don't have to waste time getting my hopes up for next year.
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Honestly, Granderson should have won the gold glove this year. Man was outstanding in Centerfield...
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Also, reports have surfaced that the Tigers are looking to trade both Laird and Edwin Jackson.

The Laird thing I like because Avila looks ready to be the full time guy. Jackson is a very interesting idea. If you trade for him to restock the bullpen, then it works perfectly. If you can SOMEHOW work out a deal to get a closer that's even better. But if you do this deal to restock the farm system then its crazy....




Unless you restock the farm system to go after Halladay...
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Ken Griffey Jr. is gonna stick with the Mariners another year.

1-year, $2 mil. deal with incentives that could give him another mil.
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No new replay calls will be implemented this year...still home runs only.

*raises glass for another year of crappy umpiring coming up*

Seriously, can't even have a challenge system or something like the NFL? It's not like they'd be needed EVERY game. Ugh.
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I do like the idea of challenging one time during the game. I do not like the idea of instant replay for a bunch of suspective calls. Baseball has always had a certain degree of error in it. Being in the technology age has just brought it out a lot more now that they have these freeze frame closeups and everything.
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The Tigers are reportedly shopping Edwin Jackson to the Dodgers for George Sherill....







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Also, reports have surfaced that the Tigers are looking to trade both Laird and Edwin Jackson.

The Laird thing I like because Avila looks ready to be the full time guy. Jackson is a very interesting idea. If you trade for him to restock the bullpen, then it works perfectly. If you can SOMEHOW work out a deal to get a closer that's even better. But if you do this deal to restock the farm system then its crazy....




Unless you restock the farm system to go after Halladay...
Apparently they're making Granderson available too.
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