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Old 05-03-2004, 11:27 AM   #1561
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or if Pires hadn't DIVED in september :@
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Old 05-03-2004, 11:27 AM   #1562
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and they wouldn't if pires wasn't a diving cunt either. then they'd have lost to pompey too and i'd have less reason to hug him slightly too tight.
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Old 05-03-2004, 02:00 PM   #1565
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i know, but the run in would've been far more interesting.

Besides, who would you rather watch playing for you, ronaldinho or darren fletcher?
Give your players SOME credit. Fletcher is 20 and playing in his first full season as a first team player. He is not a wide right player, but he looks a potentially world class central midfielder. That combination of Fletcher and Ronaldo down the right could be dominating Europe for the next 10 years, if they fufill their potential.

Ronaldinho could very well have been exactly like Veron. I watched Veron for years in Serie A, and I genuinely consider him as good a player as Zinedine Zidane, but it didn't work out for him in the Premiership. Ronaldinho wears perfume, any player who does that might find it difficult playing in England.
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Ronaldinho preferred Barcelona, United matched the bid.

Djemba-Djemba is 22, for ****s sake, give the fellow a chance. He got 22 yellow cards in France last season, you have to respect that.
Actually Peter Kenyon agreed a £26 million deal for him and then the Man United board told him his limit for the transfer was £22 million and to go back and get the deal done at that price. He refused and the deal was pulled. I'm not saying he would have chose United over Barca but that is what happened.

I am trying to like Djemba but I don't see him cutting the mustard at Old Trafford. Hope I'm wrong though.
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Nah, seriously, Ronaldinho or no, United's season fell apart pretty much right when Ferdinand got suspended.

Fletcher wouldn't have had more than 10 games this season if Solskjaer hadn't been crocked...I dunno, you could argue they'd have been just as effective if Solskjaer had stayed fit, since he was really fitting into the wide right role.

Anyway, cry about it
In every game he played on the right this season, Solskjaer has shown none of the form that kept Beckham out of the team last year. Fletcher has looked impressive at times but definately needs a good run in the team. I swear him and McFadden are the only thing keeping Scotland from sitting alongside the San Marino's of the world right now (actually Canero looked good last week so him too).
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Actually Peter Kenyon agreed a £26 million deal for him and then the Man United board told him his limit for the transfer was £22 million and to go back and get the deal done at that price. He refused and the deal was pulled. I'm not saying he would have chose United over Barca but that is what happened.

I am trying to like Djemba but I don't see him cutting the mustard at Old Trafford. Hope I'm wrong though.
Come on now, he is 22 and has spent much of the season injured, or playing for Cameroon in the African Nations.

I like him, he has alot of talent. He is an excellent passer, and a brute.

You can't really blame Solskjaer for a lack of form, it's more a lack of match fitness. He had a pretty serious knee injury. There was talk of him not actually playing this season at all, to allow it to fully recover.
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Djemba-Djemba looked like he could be quality before he got injured, I remember in the Charity Shield he was just picking up the ball and running straight at the opposition...not in a technical, Giggs-style running at your man way, I mean literallly running straight at them, smacking into them and running on with the ball because he's built like a brick shithouse.
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Old 05-03-2004, 04:26 PM   #1571
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JOBBED AT THE MOLINEUX
YOU WENT AND JOBBED AT THE MOLINEUX
Anyone else watch Soccer Saturday?

Rodney Marsh and (I THINK) Frank Mcanalli (sp?) were having an arguement about who is bigger out of Everton and Man City, and Rodney Marsh was sticking up for City, saying Everton aren't, and he said 'Lets see what happens today when Wolves Play Everton, any half decent team will beat Wolves at the Molineux' and Mcanalli didn't even mention the fact Man United lost there, what an idiot.
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What I find funny about the whole season is that apart from Leeds, Tottenham have lost more games than anyone (19 to Leeds' 20)
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Yeah, by tradition we beat them twice.

They would be equal is Jens Lehmenn learned how to control his temper.
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Old 05-03-2004, 05:10 PM   #1575
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Give your players SOME credit. Fletcher is 20 and playing in his first full season as a first team player. He is not a wide right player, but he looks a potentially world class central midfielder. That combination of Fletcher and Ronaldo down the right could be dominating Europe for the next 10 years, if they fufill their potential.

Ronaldinho could very well have been exactly like Veron. I watched Veron for years in Serie A, and I genuinely consider him as good a player as Zinedine Zidane, but it didn't work out for him in the Premiership. Ronaldinho wears perfume, any player who does that might find it difficult playing in England.
I try, but apart from a few players, there's a high level of inconsistancy in the team these days, and our midfield isn't nearly creative enough compared to the teams of old. We don't have enough depth apart from defensive midfielders, where we have far too many. I don't doubt we have a lot of potential in our current backup players, but too many of our recent signings have fallen short of what I think we're capable of. I have a bad feeling too many of our "rough diamonds" or whatever are going to end up like forlan.

For our first team, it's pretty ideal on paper, but throw in a few injuries here and then, and our backup players aren't up to the standard that I think we need. I'm not saying they're all shite, just that we should have better.
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Anyone else watch Soccer Saturday?

Rodney Marsh and (I THINK) Frank Mcanalli (sp?) were having an arguement about who is bigger out of Everton and Man City, and Rodney Marsh was sticking up for City, saying Everton aren't, and he said 'Lets see what happens today when Wolves Play Everton, any half decent team will beat Wolves at the Molineux' and Mcanalli didn't even mention the fact Man United lost there, what an idiot.
Frank McLintock?

Anyways, Marsh is a proven moron.
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Yeah, by tradition we beat them twice.

They would be equal is Jens Lehmenn learned how to control his temper.
Yeah, but when he lets in 24 goals in 35 games, the response is generally along the lines of "who gives a fuck"
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I know I'm stating the obvious here, but:

If Wenger had sold Ljungberg in the summer
If Sol Campbell had missed a drug test and been suspended for 8 months
If Wenger was aware of this but still signed a striker instead of a defender
If Edu/Gilberto had been crocked and would have done well to have a year off and had to come back playing out of form
If Arsene Wenger had a dispute with 2 men involving the frozen semen of a horse

We'd probably be worse off than ManYoo are right now.
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Also looking at each individual bit.

Ljungberg has had a minimal impact on Arsenal's season, he has been highly disappointing.

If Campbell had been out, I'm sure the defence would cope somehow, Cygan/Keown may not be the best, but they do a job.

If Wenger had bought a striker instead of a defender, it would enforce Arsenal as a more attacking side, like Real Madrid, attack is the best form of defence.

Edu has popped up with some key goals, yes, but Gilberto has been pretty crap this season, Vieira can cope with the extra load, and I'm sure someone else could pick up the reins.

The whole Magnier/McManus thing is shite, it shouldn't effect what happened on the pitch.

Even if those things did happen to Arsenal, they wouldn't have lost 10 games this season, and they'd still be champions.
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Well it's up for debate.

Maybe substitute "Vieira" where I wrote "Ljungberg". Got carried away with the right wing thing.

Never, NEVER put the words "Cygan" and "cope" in the same sentence

Or maybe a side with 1 too many strikers and not enough defenders

Whatever. .

Shouldn't. Does. Did.

Again, it's up for debate
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ECG, which team do you support?
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1-0 Yakubu, Lehmenn and Campbell should have done better.
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ECG, which team do you support?
I don't really give a shit about any club teams. English nor Scottish teams mean nothing to me, and the game here is a really, really bad joke.

I support the Irish team and the players, but mostly I just love football.
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If Wenger had bought a striker instead of a defender, it would enforce Arsenal as a more attacking side, like Real Madrid, attack is the best form of defence.
I think Real Madrid have well and truly proved that wrong, by the way.
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I don't really give a shit about any club teams. English nor Scottish teams mean nothing to me, and the game here is a really, really bad joke.

I support the Irish team and the players, but mostly I just love football.
Did you ever support anyone?

I only ask because I always watch football on TV, but I only REALLY get into it when its Chelsea, and I love going to their games, I couldn't imagine watching football without supporting a team.
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I don't really give a shit about any club teams. English nor Scottish teams mean nothing to me, and the game here is a really, really bad joke.

I support the Irish team and the players, but mostly I just love football.
I think we should start a poll and pick who ECG should support.
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I think Real Madrid have well and truly proved that wrong, by the way.
On the flip-side Arsenal have proved it right. Arsenal are by no means a good defensive team, they happen to have 2 good central defenders and an average goalkepper. Lauren and Cole go forward constantly, and are both not exactly fantastic at the back.
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I think we should start a poll and pick who ECG should support.
I think that this is a good idea.
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Did you ever support anyone?

I only ask because I always watch football on TV, but I only REALLY get into it when its Chelsea, and I love going to their games, I couldn't imagine watching football without supporting a team.
I supported Man U when I was a little kid, because everyone else here does and people from my family do, but I realised as I got older I liked seeing them lose more often than winning. Now I just don't really care.
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On the flip-side Arsenal have proved it right. Arsenal are by no means a good defensive team, they happen to have 2 good central defenders and an average goalkepper. Lauren and Cole go forward constantly, and are both not exactly fantastic at the back.
It is still an excellent defense. You'd think the theory would be better proven by a team who have 4 or 5 players who have been argued to be the best players in the world at different times (though Raul is the best and most underrated, in my opinion, and Beckham never really came close to justifying that).

Arsenal have a strong defense, and also a solid defensive midfield. Madrid have neither. Arsenal's side is built on a tough core with flair around it.
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I think we should start a poll and pick who ECG should support.
You could do it, and taunt me when they lose or whateverm but I'd find it really hard to care about a side I have no connection to.
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