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Old 06-11-2010, 03:29 PM   #1801
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Still haven't gotten to The Constant. I dont' remember how they handle the explanation for his consciousness flashes back to 1996.
I would assume that when they originally happened to him in 1996, he sort of lost consciousness and didn't know what happened. They were probably like blank spots in his memory that he didn't recall or even notice back then, and wouldn't have any significance to him until 2004 when they started happening.
Going on the what happened happened rule, though, it is most likely the case that his 1996 self always experience those flashes, and his consciousness at the time got pushed out for a few minutes here and there.
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Old 06-11-2010, 03:37 PM   #1802
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I love the "there is no now" line.
probably my fav speech of the entire show. probably my fav scene next to Sawyer killing Picket. I marked out big time over that. Also, the scene when they get the boat in the water in season one with Vincent running towards it was amazing. Top 3 right there.
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Old 06-11-2010, 04:07 PM   #1803
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Watching the show over now is great too because I can more fully appreciate the writing, and the sheer scope and quality of it.
I always appreciate those things, as it was my favorite show, but at the same time I was always caught up in the story and where it was going.
Now that we've reached the end and gotten resolution, it's easier to casually enjoy a lot of things.


Fucking love the locations. It's astounding that it's a TV show. I don't even think any movies approach the incredible location shooting on Lost, with the exception of New Zealand in Lord of the Rings, probably.
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I was just thinking, what was the deal with that cut on Jack's neck that kept bleeding (in the afterlife)?
I figure it was probably small instances of trying to get him to realize where he was.
Parellel to getting stabbed in the throat by Smocke. Same thing with getting hiss spendix removed, getting stabbed there.
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I am so tempted to watch LOST all over right now, but I will probably wait till someone uploads the complete dvd set with the extras. Hopefully they are worth it.
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I'm curious if you'd like to expand about the use of looking in mirrors in the afterlife universe.
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Old 06-11-2010, 05:22 PM   #1807
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Parellel to getting stabbed in the throat by Smocke. Same thing with getting hiss spendix removed, getting stabbed there.
Exactly.

Once he started getting close to the people he knew and was close to, his real life and death started bleeding into his alt verse leading to him remembering.

I really wish he would have come to more of a realization with Kate.

HEr saying "I have missed you so much" makes so much sense when you realize she lived without him. Could have had us all in tears had he remembered then that he died and left he on that cliff.
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Exactly.

Once he started getting close to the people he knew and was close to, his real life and death started bleeding into his alt verse leading to him remembering.

I really wish he would have come to more of a realization with Kate.

HEr saying "I have missed you so much" makes so much sense when you realize she lived without him. Could have had us all in tears had he remembered then that he died and left he on that cliff.
i thought it was good the way it was. I would even argue that, that one scene redeemed the entire Kate charachter. When she said " I have missed you so much " and then after seeing the end and me finally realizing what she meant by that, it was perfect.
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Old 06-19-2010, 02:10 PM   #1809
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QUESTION-

In "The Constant", Desmond's 1996 consciessness takes over and skips back and forth between 96 and 04.
He fixes this by tracking down Faraday and finding his constant, but the question is this:
Why does his circa 2004 self not seem to have been effected by these events?
We know that whatever happened happened. So the Desmond of 2004 would remember that strange day in 1996.
The only thing I can really think that covers this is that none of what he experiences during the flashes gives away that he's on the island. It's all on the helicopter and the boat.
Perhaps he just never connected the two. But he knew that he would be calling Penny in 2004, so why wouldn't he know that the situation was coming?
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Old 06-19-2010, 04:03 PM   #1810
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Maybe he was flashing to an afterlife like in this season. Just like that one time he goes back to when he broke up with Penny. thats why Faradays mom told him he couldnt change anything, hes always going to the island, because its now an afterlife and he did go to the island.
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Old 06-19-2010, 04:03 PM   #1811
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Wait, nevermind....Penny and Faraday remember it. So it was real. At least the constant.
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Maybe it ties into how Faraday went and met him in the past, t hen he didnt remember until 3 years after he left the island.
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Old 06-19-2010, 05:29 PM   #1813
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2004 Desmond can't remember telling himself something in 1996 until he does it in 2004, though by all rights the memory should be with him already in 2004. Regardless, he still has to actually "do it" in 2004 to make it happen in 1996. Seems like a paradox.
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Old 06-20-2010, 02:00 AM   #1814
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Old 06-20-2010, 03:37 PM   #1815
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Well, during his flashes to 2004, he is confused and disoriented. Until he's told to find Farady, he thinks they're dreams.
The only people he sees are Sayid, who he doesn't recognize obviously, and the doctor/patient on the boat.
So it's not like he'd know they had any connection to the island until after the entire episode in 2004.
He probably remembers the 1996 flashes and going to see Faraday, but chalks it up as a confusing/strange episode in his life 8 years earlier that had no correlation to the events on the island.
Until afterwards.

The only thing is he knows he will call Penny 8 years later, so he would remember that was coming up. Or not. 8 years is a long time and he probably moved on from the whole episode.
I don't really keep in mind any strange dreams or episodes that happened to me 8 years ago.
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Going back in time to tell your past self something should guarantee that happens to you in the present timeline if you go by the theory that season 5 followed. The time spent in between the time travel "spots" should be irrelevant then right?
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Was talking to you, Jeritron. Or have you given up on that theme?
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Those Totally Lost videos were cool. I started watching all of them for Season 6 but they seem to have dried up 3 episodes in!?
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The season 6 DVD, out Aug. 24, offers an original, 12-minute vignette called ''The New Man in Charge,'' a tantalizing look at what Hurley (Jorge Garcia) and Ben (Michael Emerson, left) do as the new Island overseers. ''Ben is going around to Dharma installations and closing some down,'' Emerson says. ''There are some good surprises.'' And yes, ''it does answer questions.

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Really interesting. I assume these are Dharma installations that were left still operating after Dharma got purged?
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Someone in the comments (amongst all the bitching about how it ended) speculated that the picture shows Ben in what seems to be a supply room, perhaps answering where the Dharma Food Drop came from...
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Interesting. My thoughts:
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A part of me wishes this bonus feature was a full episode. But I think that's just me missing Lost.
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I'm curious if you'd like to expand about the use of looking in mirrors in the afterlife universe.
I think they served two purposes as a storytelling device.

The main purpose would be their relevance to the afterlife. I think it represents the characters self reflection and the process of them discovering themselves before they move on.
We didn't know this until the last episode, so it was hard to make that connection, but the writers did.

The other purpose is to create parallel universe imagery. It was the idea of looking at another version of themselves, similar to the mirror universe we were seeing. I think it acted as a red herring to further sell us on the fact that it was in fact an alternate universe, which was the distraction all season building towards the reveal.
There were several cleverly placed items that helped seal our notion that it was definitely a parallel universe without actually saying such.
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Old 08-06-2010, 09:15 PM   #1830
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So the epilogue is online and may I say it is underwhelming to say the least
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So the epilogue is online and may I say it is underwhelming to say the least
Yeah it's not great, seems like they just tried to cram a bunch of answers into ten minutes. Still, I will take underwhelming Lost over no Lost
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It was pretty much what I expected from it. I loved how the writers seemed to be almost just taking the piss out of those people that needed every answer spoonfed to them with the "Just one question each" line.
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I just watched it today. Pretty meh stuff. Nothing to special. Would have prefered a montage type video of what happened to Ben/Hurley over the years as leader.
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http://hd.engadget.com/2010/08/07/lo...ew-clip-video/

This has a preview, and comments in there talk about it being available online. Searching now.

Ok, downloading a 100 mb file that claims to be the bonus feature now.
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Just finished watching it, I will admit I loved it solely on the fact that it was more of LOST than anything else. It answers 3 main question, and I marked out for a Hurley appearance towards the end. Google "Lost new man in charge dvd rip", or PM me if you got trouble finding it.
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I woulda cut the whole orientation video. We already knew why the polar bears were there.
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But it also gave an answer to the pregnancy complications. And a conclusive link that the polar bear in the desert was sent through time/space from the island at the Orchid station. And kinda gave an answer to the Hurley Bird.
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It also explained why there was snow at the donkey wheel, and also the whole kidnapping of the hostiles as well as the losties for "study" to know more about Jacob.
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