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Old 01-26-2006, 11:43 AM   #1841
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Makes you laugh when they are so petty for stuff like celebrating goals or talking about referees and yet Lord Sven gets treated like an absolute God even though my Granny could have done just as good a job with the England team with those players. Actually that's a lie. She wouldn't have lost a bunch of friendlies or a world cup qualifier to Northern Ireland.
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Old 01-26-2006, 01:08 PM   #1842
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Old 01-26-2006, 01:20 PM   #1843
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Di Canio is making facist salutes to a bunch of vile, racist cunts (Lazio supporters). The whole lot of them should be banned from a football stadium, they give it a bad name. Facist salutes have no place on a football pitch. Football and politics are seperate and should be kept so.
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Old 01-26-2006, 01:32 PM   #1844
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Its down to the authorities and the club to get rid of the racist fans in the stadium and prevent them from getting in.

I don't see why players shouldn't be allowed to bring politics into the game, it is rife everywhere else in society, why not football? (or sport in general)
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Because they've no right to use a stage they've been given because of footballing talent to make a political statement, particularly a statement that stands for hatred and intolerance and appeals to a troubling hooligan element that stalks football.

If they want to make political statements they can do it in their own time, on their own terms, not on a stage for sport.

Ultras are a huge, huge problem and they could really fuck up this year's World Cup if the fascist wankers from all over Europe congregate to hi-jack the ultimate footballing stage. They've no place in football. Di Canio should be banned for life for encouraging them after all the trouble they've brought and all the misery they cause to minority players all over Europe.

He didn't do it in England, because he'd rightfully be villified and probably imprisoned.
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I agree that is has no place in football. It doesn't have a place in other areas of entertainment either. Part of the reason I fucking hate Chris Martin and Bono.
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Old 01-26-2006, 08:22 PM   #1848
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I agree that is has no place in football. It doesn't have a place in other areas of entertainment either. Part of the reason I fucking hate Chris Martin and Bono.
No, if a footballer wants to use his fame to go and be a politician or lobbiest elsewhere, fine.

If an artist wishes to use their own work and their own stage as a platform for their views, that is their perogative too. Artists are partly there to express their opinions through their chosen medium. You can pay to hear/see/listen to them, you don't have to.

A football pitch is for playing football on, not for sending political messages or making politically-sensitive gestures. They're being paid to play football and making political statements on the pitch is an abuse of their position.
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So if I'm watching say a talk show on the Beeb that makes it ok for a musician to mouth off about politics and I should grin and bare it?
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Yeah, if an artist is asked about political views then they obviously have a right to give them, especially if it applies to their work. Same as a footballer on a chat show can talk about politics if he's asked.

An artist's career is based on expression.
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Shit group for Scotland, by the way. Easy group for England.

Happy with Ireland's group, but I was willing England to come out of the hat. England, Germany, Ireland and Wales would have been a very tasty group.
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Old 01-27-2006, 08:52 AM   #1852
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Blind optimism time - We'll fuck Italy and Ukraine! Might give France a draw I wanted England though.

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Well as someone from Scotland, it is safe to say that we have no chance in this. I just fear what this will do to our rankings in the future after Shevchenko and co rip us a new chute.
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Greece got a good group...except for those dirty Turks.

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Well as someone from Scotland, it is safe to say that we have no chance in this. I just fear what this will do to our rankings in the future after Shevchenko and co rip us a new chute.
Ukraine, Italy and France will take points off each other and I'll bet my life that we will beat at least one of them (and I'd fancy our chances at home getting points off all of them). Obviously we are outsiders but that's how we like it. Avoiding a winter trip to Kiev would be nice too. Slim possibility for second place but it's more of a chance than it looks on the surface.
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As long as we can do it at Hampden (and we know we can) we have a chance.....its a long shot, but we don't have a really talented "lower ranked side" to be a real banana skin. We've beaten Lithuania before, and Georgia and the Faroes wont be a problem with the squad the way it is now. We could take a point in France, Italy or the Ukraine (and but for 2 pieces of magic, an injured keeper for one of the goals and Kenny Miller having a bit of a shocker, we could've got a point in Italy)..... who knows. At the end of the day, no is expecting us to go through, so we've got nothing to lose and everything to play for.

Also.......... he might be overweight, slow and a shell of his former self... BUT ROBBIE FOWLER HAS COME HOME





He's also a better finisher than all of our strikers put together
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Old 01-27-2006, 02:02 PM   #1857
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OK I have a question. Robbie Fowler has rejoined Liverpool for the remainder of the season on a "free transfer" from Man City.

Can somebody explain the nature of a free transfer to me?
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Old 01-27-2006, 02:16 PM   #1858
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OK I have a question. Robbie Fowler has rejoined Liverpool for the remainder of the season on a "free transfer" from Man City.

Can somebody explain the nature of a free transfer to me?
It's a transfer where there is no fee involved. Man City agreed to this because, at £35,000 per week, Fowler was by far their highest earner and they are not exactly the richest of clubs
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On the subject of Scotland. There have been a lot of rumours that we're in for Nigel Quashie.

I have never booed a Pompey player in my life but if that cunt comes back after everything he's said, he's getting hell.

I've kept quiet at Fratton Park about Redknapp and Bond but I wont for Quashie. Although if Redknapp drops Gary O'Neil to fit Quashie in, then he can fuck right off too.
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He can finish better than any of our strikers, just make sure that the offside positon doesn't matter for him because then he doesn't have to run.
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Old 01-27-2006, 04:13 PM   #1862
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As long as we can do it at Hampden (and we know we can) we have a chance.....its a long shot, but we don't have a really talented "lower ranked side" to be a real banana skin. We've beaten Lithuania before, and Georgia and the Faroes wont be a problem with the squad the way it is now. We could take a point in France, Italy or the Ukraine (and but for 2 pieces of magic, an injured keeper for one of the goals and Kenny Miller having a bit of a shocker, we could've got a point in Italy)..... who knows. At the end of the day, no is expecting us to go through, so we've got nothing to lose and everything to play for.
The Faroe Islands and Georgia away will be two tough matches. Certainly don't fancy Scotland in either of them to be looking at an assured victory.

I'd expect Italy and France to go through quite easily, with Ukraine coming in 3rd, but all of those teams could look very different by the time this qualifying series starts.
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Happy with Irelands group obviously getting the Germans is a kick but it could have been far worse than the Czechs and Slovakia are a nice 3rd seed to have. Czechs seem to be fairly stagnant at the moment and Nedved is gone. We've a good chance of getting second there and at least theres no bastard play offs to fuck us over this time.

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Sorry again, I'm just starting to get back into the mix, but Ogen, is Nedved injured or why won't he be there?
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OK I have a question. Robbie Fowler has rejoined Liverpool for the remainder of the season on a "free transfer" from Man City.

Can somebody explain the nature of a free transfer to me?
Free transfers happen when a player leaves a club at the end of his contract. Basically, the club he's going to doesn't have to negotiate a fee with the club he's leaving, it's called the Bosman rule or something. A lot of players use it as a bargaining tool to get a better deal at their current club a year or six months before their contract runs out to try and squeeze some more cash out of their club, because the club knows that if they don't resign the player then and there he's free to choose whatever club and they don't get a cent for it.
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It's a transfer where there is no fee involved. Man City agreed to this because, at £35,000 per week, Fowler was by far their highest earner and they are not exactly the richest of clubs
Weren't Leeds still paying like £10,000 a week of his contract until the end of this season? That'd explain why City now want rid. It'd also explain (along with many other ridiculus decisions) why Leeds went down the shitter.
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The Faroe Islands and Georgia away will be two tough matches. Certainly don't fancy Scotland in either of them to be looking at an assured victory.

I'd expect Italy and France to go through quite easily, with Ukraine coming in 3rd, but all of those teams could look very different by the time this qualifying series starts.
We have a manager now in Walter Smith who just will not accept not winning in Georgia or the Faroes. Brown and Vogts were too up their own arse and totally unable to motivate average players. Smith has made the likes of Kenny Miller look 10 times better than he actually is (fair play to Glenn Hoddle to with him though).

I very seriously see Scotland getting at least 5 or 6 points from the 12 available against France, Italy and the Ukraine so it come down to how they do against each other. Hopefully France or Italy will fuck everyone and leave 2nd place wide open.
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Free transfers happen when a player leaves a club at the end of his contract. Basically, the club he's going to doesn't have to negotiate a fee with the club he's leaving, it's called the Bosman rule or something. A lot of players use it as a bargaining tool to get a better deal at their current club a year or six months before their contract runs out to try and squeeze some more cash out of their club, because the club knows that if they don't resign the player then and there he's free to choose whatever club and they don't get a cent for it.
Well not quite Gooner Fowlers deal wasn't up it was a case of him wanting to go and City being happy enough to wipe him off the wage bill nothing to do with bosman's.
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Old 01-27-2006, 10:23 PM   #1872
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I was talking about free transfers 'in general'
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FUCK, totally flukey goal for Newcastle

Defender belted it into Parker's stomach and it went in
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We have a manager now in Walter Smith who just will not accept not winning in Georgia or the Faroes. Brown and Vogts were too up their own arse and totally unable to motivate average players. Smith has made the likes of Kenny Miller look 10 times better than he actually is (fair play to Glenn Hoddle to with him though).

I very seriously see Scotland getting at least 5 or 6 points from the 12 available against France, Italy and the Ukraine so it come down to how they do against each other. Hopefully France or Italy will fuck everyone and leave 2nd place wide open.
Don't get me wrong, Scotland should win those matches but they certainly won't be easy. It's a cliche, but there are no easy away games in international football anymore. Even horrible teams can put up a bit of a scrap on their home turf. Scotland should have enough to do it, but they don't have any genuinely class players, really, in the event that things are getting bogged down.

France could be a very different side by the time qualifying comes around. Thuram, Zidane and Makelele will be gone again, so they could be thrown into disarray as they were in the WC qualifying where they were absolutely stinking for most of it.
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We need to place France within the first 2 games to have any chance. They have always been slow starts and they will be rebuilding. Mind you, they are still full of quality.
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Good job of picking the two laziest fucks in the team today Glenn (Seol and Anderton). That coupled with Naylor and Kennedy's idiocy, Gyepes being as fast as a slug and Miller being stuck on the wing should give us a great chance, oh yes
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Also is there a worse player in the Premiership at the moment than Jean Alain Boumsong. Answers on a postcard please.
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