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Old 07-08-2008, 02:25 PM   #1
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What event was Arlovski's most recent fight?
UFC 82... the same card as silva and henderson
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The Machida hype is so premature IMO. Like Rob said, he's only really beat Tito, and Tito isnt a top of the heap guy anymore.

I want to see him at least beat one of Liddell, Rua, Wand or Rampage BEFORE he gets a title shot.

He would be a nightmare as champion due to his style, but I dont think the UFC would deny him a shot when he earns it.
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So I stayed up to watch the event and fell asleep in round 3 of the Griffin/Rampage fight.

From what I've seen of machida and that's only a few fights I have been impressed with him.
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If you have only seen the Soku and Ortiz fights, I'd disagree but I can understand this. Go watch the rest of his UFC fights and that will change your mind. Start with the David Heath fight. It was so bad that it didn't even air on the American showing.
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I absolutely can not grasp why certain states will not sanction MMA.

This show is good by the way. I've never seen it before but it needs to be posted here all the time.
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I'd totally put money on Sylvia at 3-1 too.
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I'd totally put money on Sylvia at 3-1 too.
To win or to lay on his back and hold Fedors head into his chest the whole fight?

Fedor will win. I dont think Sylvia will mount much offense, but i think he'll give enough defense to make this a boring fight.
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Haven't watched them all yet..
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MMA major events schedule
Saturday, July 19

UFC: Ultimate Fight Night 14, Anderson Silva vs. James Irvin, Pearl at the Palms Theater, Las Vegas, Spike TV.
Affliction: Tim Sylvia vs. Fedor Emelianenko, Honda Center, Anaheim, Calif., Fox Sports Net/PPV.

Saturday, July 26

Elite XC: Robbie Lawler vs. Scott Smith, Stockton Arena, Stockton, Calif., CBS.

Sunday, August 3

WEC: Three title matches, Hard Rock Hotel, Las Vegas, Versus.

Saturday, August 9

UFC 87: Georges St. Pierre vs. Jon Fitch, Target Center, Minneapolis, PPV.

Saturday, Sept. 6

UFC 88: Chuck Liddell vs. Rashad Evans, Phillips Arena, Atlanta.

Wednesday, Sept. 10

WEC: Urijah Faber vs. Mike Brown, Versus, venue TBD

Wednesday, Sept. 17

UFC: Ultimate Fight Night 15, main event TBD, Civic Auditorium, Omaha, Neb.

Friday, Sept. 19

Strikeforce: Playboy Mansion, Beverly Hills, Calif., main event, TV TBD.
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I really want to see this Silva thing backfire for Dana White. Ofcourse, theres no way that'll happen cause i'm sure James Irvin will be payed to walk into one. But still, i'd like to see him knock Silva out on live television just so to punk Dana for trying to steal Afflictions thunder and risking his #1 guy like this for nothing. But we all know Irvin is gunna get paid enough money not to win so its a mute point.
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I really want to see this Silva thing backfire for Dana White. Ofcourse, theres no way that'll happen cause i'm sure James Irvin will be payed to walk into one. But still, i'd like to see him knock Silva out on live television just so to punk Dana for trying to steal Afflictions thunder and risking his #1 guy like this for nothing. But we all know Irvin is gunna get paid enough money not to win so its a mute point.
Yeah I'm sure Irvin will be paid off. You sir are a logical thinker.

Silva is not their "#1 guy", if he was, he wouldnt be fighting for free on a throw together card. He may be the best fighter in the world, but he's probably not even top 5 for the UFC in terms of drawing money (which is what matters).

If Irvin wins, then Irvin becomes a big star because he beat a guy who was supposed to be unstoppable. And then he'll be put in there with the upper level guys at 205.
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When Fedor was actually proving he was a dominant champion, Matt Hughes was clearly the best 170lb fighter in the world. A lot can change in MMA in a short period of time.

Fedor may not be able to hang with the top guys anymore.

Personally I think he will catch Tim in a sub, but I dont think its out of the realm of possibility to say Sylvia can knock him out.

Of course that would be the worst thing for Affliction, because it would ruin money matches with Fedor down the road. Maybe they should pay off Tim.....
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I think people are seriously under estimating Tim Sylvia. Obviously Fedor is Fedor but it ain't like Sylvia doesn't have a wicked record. Ben Rothwell, Jason Lambert, Andre Arlovski, Cabbage, Ricco Rodriguez, Jeff Monson and Brandon Vera aren't exactly chumps. He is an underdog for sure but with his size and knock out power, you can't rule him out. Fedor also hasn't fought a top heavyweight in 3 years and even then people debate just how good Mirko Cro Cop really ever was.

I'd tip Fedor still but 3-1 in a 1 on 1 fight are good odds.
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I think people are seriously under estimating Tim Sylvia. Obviously Fedor is Fedor but it ain't like Sylvia doesn't have a wicked record. Ben Rothwell, Jason Lambert, Andre Arlovski, Cabbage, Ricco Rodriguez, Jeff Monson and Brandon Vera aren't exactly chumps. He is an underdog for sure but with his size and knock out power, you can't rule him out. Fedor also hasn't fought a top heavyweight in 3 years and even then people debate just how good Mirko Cro Cop really ever was.

I'd tip Fedor still but 3-1 in a 1 on 1 fight are good odds.
Oh comon thats BS and you know it. Cro Crop was one of the best Heavyweights and the most feared striker in the world when Fedor faced him. Dont act like he wasnt now that he's lost a few. Thats bs.
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I think I see the fight going down like the Sylvia-nogiera fight. Except maybe a little faster.
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I'd like to see it go down like Sylvia/Couture..
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I'd like to see it go down like Sylvia/Couture..
Seriously, aside from the hype and the first 1 minute of that fight, it sucked. I'd hate to see Fedor and Tim go 5 rounds like that.
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People do debate it. I never said I did.

And for the record, aside from Josh Barnett, what top 5 heavyweights has he beaten? That's the argument from the Cro Cop doubters.
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Its only going to be a three round fight
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Its only going to be a three round fight
Title fights are 5 rounds though.
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not for the WAMMA belt apparently... I just watched the most recent interview of sylvia on sherdog and he said it was a three rounder but maybe hes retarded... entirely possible.
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I still think theres some behind the scenes things going on with Dana white and sylvia to try and fuck up the coture-fedor fight. If Sylvia beats fedor, I see him back in the UFC being paid twice what he was making before.
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Old 07-14-2008, 12:46 PM   #32
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He is making more than twice he made in the UFC now with Affliction. Sylvia wanted $1 million a fight and Dana White laughed at him since he couldn't draw flies with two handfuls of shit.

If he comes back, it won't be for that money. I don't see him coming back anyway.
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Old 07-14-2008, 01:32 PM   #33
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I hope he stays gone..

But, on the same note, they really need to do something with the HW division.. There has to be some quality fighters out there who could revamp the big boy division..
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I hope he stays gone..

But, on the same note, they really need to do something with the HW division.. There has to be some quality fighters out there who could revamp the big boy division..
They just signed 3 big hopes in the last few months. Cain Velasquez, Shane Carwin and Brock Lesnar.
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It is a five round fight.... sylvia is just retarded.
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How well did that Lesnar fight draw? Anyone know?
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Yeah it drew well. I'll find a number in a minute.
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650,000 and just shy of 2.5 million bucks at the gate.
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Damn it. That's huge. Yeah, if his second fight can draw anywhere near that he's gonna be around for a long time. (Provided he can make it out of the first round.)
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