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Old 07-01-2010, 12:50 PM   #161
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It's funny to me.
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Old 07-01-2010, 12:52 PM   #162
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I've been laughing about it long ago, maybe thats why.
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Old 07-01-2010, 01:02 PM   #163
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David Lee, Al Harrington & LeBron James...not a bad start if they can keep lee and sign bron.
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Old 07-01-2010, 01:51 PM   #164
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I'm really hoping that some genetic super team is made with Lebron, Wade, Bosh and others. Then I hope they win the championship like 6 years in a row or something just to watch fans of all the teams that I dislike go absolutely batshit.
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Old 07-01-2010, 03:12 PM   #165
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I still laugh every time I think of that story you told about a Mets fan calling into NY sports radio and complaining that he's noticed YES is biased towards the Yankees
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Old 07-01-2010, 03:19 PM   #166
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I still laugh every time I think of that story you told about a Mets fan calling into NY sports radio and complaining that he's noticed YES is biased towards the Yankees
Listening to Francesa try to comprehend that statement made for a great 3 minutes of radio.
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Old 07-01-2010, 03:28 PM   #167
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The Hawks are really dumb offering Joe Johnson $119 Million contract.
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Old 07-01-2010, 03:31 PM   #168
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you haven't seen the Knicks offer yet
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Old 07-01-2010, 03:33 PM   #169
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They can't offer Joe Johnson as much money.

Is Johnson stays with the Hawks he would make an extra 30 million then he would with the Knicks even if they offered him the Max.
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Old 07-01-2010, 03:35 PM   #170
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The Knicks offer "allegedy" is for Lebron, Bosh, and Johnson to take less because they will make more money because of endorsements.

Since it's New York and all.
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Old 07-01-2010, 03:37 PM   #171
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That might be the only thing going for the Knicks
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Old 07-01-2010, 03:40 PM   #172
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Yeah but is Joe Johnson really going to get that much endorsements even in New York?
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Old 07-01-2010, 03:40 PM   #173
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Chad Pennington got endorsements
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Old 07-01-2010, 03:41 PM   #174
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Old 07-01-2010, 03:45 PM   #175
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You mean the Quarterback for the New York Jets?

Third best players on Final teams don't really get huge endorsements most of the time.

Yes I know Lamar Odom and Taco bell, but him marrying a Karshdian helps out his mainstream appeal.
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That's football though, Americans care about football.
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Old 07-01-2010, 03:48 PM   #177
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You mean the Quarterback for the New York Jets?

Third best players on Final teams don't really get huge endorsements most of the time.

Yes I know Lamar Odom and Taco bell, but him marrying a Karshdian helps out his mainstream appeal.
John Starks had a commercial that aired in 2003.
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And you can't tell me he was better than Patrick Ewing or Charles Oakley.
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Old 07-01-2010, 03:53 PM   #179
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John Starks had a commercial that aired in 2003.
He is a New York legend/Icon. People of New York have some special attachment to him. No one has attachment to Joe Johnson.

Joe Johnson would get more endorsements in New York, but it's not going to be the equivalent of $30 million+ he would be making in Atlanta.
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Old 07-01-2010, 03:58 PM   #180
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You're right, but there is the chance he could play with a bigger star if he went to NY.

one in a million is still a chance.
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I'd rather have the extra guaranteed money.
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Old 07-01-2010, 05:06 PM   #182
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i'd be shocked if the Knicks do ANYTHING. The reason for that being, the franchise itself has gone to shit. Sure, there are other teams out there just as bad, but after the Isaiah Thomas era in NY, that place looks like hell, both on and off the court.
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Old 07-01-2010, 06:16 PM   #183
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Phil Jackson will be Lebron's new Coach in New York
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Old 07-01-2010, 06:17 PM   #184
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Nah I'm just kidding.

Phil Jackson is coming back to coach the Lakers, and Lebron still hasn't said anything.
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Old 07-01-2010, 06:42 PM   #185
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Old 07-01-2010, 09:29 PM   #187
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Old 07-02-2010, 03:20 PM   #188
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Apparently the Knicks are getting close on signing Amare to a max deal.

Obviously giving him max is risky with his injury concerns but this can only help in getting another big name guy here. And after seeing what other guys that have signed already have gotten Amare getting a max deal isn't surprising. As unlikely as I still think it would be for LeBron to come here, an Amare/LeBron pick and roll would be amazing.

Deal is gonna look pretty bad though if noone else comes with him and we have just Amare for the next 5 years.
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Old 07-02-2010, 04:02 PM   #189
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Suns sign Hakim Warrick 4 years/18 mil and Channing Frye (5 years/30 mil)

Where's my David Lee signing dammit?
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So apparently the Lakers have offered Mike Miller a 5 year, $30 million contract.

Mitch Kupchak is neither confirming nor denying, but a source says Miller has til Tuesday to make up his mind and that Miller spoke with Kobe last night.
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Steve Blake's agent confirms four-year, $16 million deal with the Lakers. Story up soon on NBA.com.
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If Fisher does resign at 50% discount, Blake would almost make double what Fisher makes as a Laker per year.
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Lakers want to offer Fish 3.5 million, but he wants 5 million. This is probably gonna drag on all summer, just like Odom last year.
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I must have heard ESPN Sportscenter wrong since it sounded like Fisher was going to get $2.5 million which would have given Blake almost double of Fisher's salary.
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it's official

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-The Los Angeles Lakers did not wait long to replace free agent guard Jordan Farmar, reaching into their fellow Staples Center occupants' locker room to poach veteran guard Steve Blake from the Clippers. The two sides have agreed on a four-year, $16 million deal, Blake's agent confirmed, which is fully guaranteed with no options for either side.

Blake will almost certainly take Farmar's place next season backing up Derek Fisher, who is also a free agent but is expected to re-sign with the two-time defending champions. The Lakers didn't place a qualifying offer on Farmar before the start of the free agent period, making him an unrestricted free agent. Blake also had interest from the Knicks and other teams but the opportunity to play for the Lakers was too enticing.

The 30-year-old Blake has played for five NBA teams since being drafted in the first round in 2003 by the Washington Wizards, with career averages of 7.5 points and 4.3 assists per game. He started last season in Portland, where he started for most of the first half of the season for the Trail Blazers, but the injury-riddled Blazers, desperate for a big man after season-ending injuries to Greg Oden and Joel Pryzbilla, dealt Blake at the trade deadline to the Clippers along with forward Travis Outlaw for center Marcus Camby.

Blake first disclosed the deal Friday afternoon during an interview on Portland radio station KXTG-FM.
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I would have preferred Raymond Felton, but Blake is still good.
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Here's a very interesting article by John Hollinger, regarding all the money that will be spent this summer

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By John Hollinger
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You know who the five smartest men in the room were on Day 1 of free agency?

How about five guys who did all their work before all this craziness started: Danny Ainge, Kevin Pritchard, Sam Presti, Steve Kerr and R.C. Buford.

A year ago, all five saw what the free-agent market was going to look like this summer and took pre-emptive action:


Ainge signed Rajon Rondo to a five-year, $55 million extension.


Pritchard gave LaMarcus Aldridge a five-year, $70 million extension and then added Marcus Camby for two years, $21 million.


Presti gave Thabo Sefolosha a four-year, $15 million extension.


Kerr reupped Steve Nash for two more years at $20 million.


And Buford signed Manu Ginobili for three more years at $37 million.

After Day 1 of 2010 free agency -- a day in which Amir Johnson and Rudy Gay agreed to deals worth roughly $115 million -- now how do those moves look?

They seem genius, no? The lesson from the first 24 hours of free agency is that it's not just the superstars who are defining this market -- with too much cash chasing too little talent, teams are throwing themselves at whatever Hakim Warrick or Steve Blake they can get their mitts on, consequences be damned.

Wise GMs like the five above looked ahead, saw the landscape and did their work early, even if they endured some criticism for it at the time. (As did a sixth, Utah's Kevin O'Connor, who had the foresight to extend Mehmet Okur but couldn't look far enough into his crystal ball to see a devastating Achilles injury).

Kerr and Pritchard aren't employed by their teams anymore, even though those moves at a minimum saved their teams tens of millions in additional salary. Aldridge and Rondo would get max offers in this market, guaranteed. Ginobili and Nash would have offers that came close. Camby and even Sefolosha likely would have been richly rewarded as well.

Here's the thing: It's only going to get worse.

Do the math. We have 10 maximum-salary slots among the free-agent contenders: three for Miami, two for Chicago, New York and New Jersey, and one for the Clippers.

We have 10 players who are max-contract candidates: LeBron James, Dwyane Wade, Chris Bosh, Dirk Nowitzki, Paul Pierce, Amare Stoudemire, Carlos Boozer, Joe Johnson, David Lee and Rudy Gay.

Seems like a perfect match of supply and demand so far. However, Pierce and Nowitzki are almost certain to return to their former teams. Gay already has committed to return to Memphis, and Johnson appears close to returning to Atlanta.

Now we have six players for 10 slots. If LeBron returns to Cleveland, that makes five. And we haven't discussed the possibility of Boozer, Stoudemire or Bosh being signed-and-traded to a team already over the cap -- a real possibility given the lucrative sixth year they can add on their deals in such an arrangement.

If all that happens, that means it's possible only Wade and Lee (by re-signing six-year deals with their current teams) would eat up max-salary slots from one of the teams with cap space.

Which would leave about $120 million in cap space out on the market, chasing a bunch of players who aren't worth anywhere near that type of money.

Think about it. After those players, who's next on the list? Luis Scola? Raymond Felton? John Salmons? Josh Childress? Ray Allen?

No matter how you slice it, it's a vertiginous drop from the elite free agents to the next tier, but with all the money chasing talent this summer and all that those teams have promised their fans by tanking one or even two seasons in the pursuit of cap space, they feel compelled to make a move.

Several GMs have looked at the landscape and realized this phenomenon, which is why the bidding has increased on even secondary players. It only makes sense -- a rising tide lifts all boats. If the players normally targeted with midlevel money are suddenly angling for much bigger prizes, it means lesser players now become targets for the midlevel.

We already have some examples. Channing Frye got two years and $4 million a year ago; after opting out of the second year and trying again, he'll get nearly eight times that amount this summer. Ditto for Drew Gooden. And Amir Johnson got $34 million even though his foul rate (7.0 per 40 minutes, the worst among any player to see more than 1,000 minutes) makes it virtually impossible to keep him on the floor.

As a result, the potential is there for some really idiotic stuff to happen this summer. Think Johnson getting $34 million is bad? You ain't seen nothing yet. Some team is going to panic and give a grotesquely bloated deal to a secondary player. We might see somebody like Al Harrington or Brendan Haywood get $50 million or $60 million. We might see Steve Blake or Luke Ridnour get the full midlevel exception.

And we seem almost certain to see Richard Jefferson recoup the $15.2 million he forewent by opting out of the final year of his contract. In last year's market, it would have been a long shot. This year? Heck, he might double or triple it.

We could avert the worst excesses of free-agency Armageddon if the likes of James, Stoudemire and Boozer move to one of the cap-space teams, whether by trade or straight signing, and soak up some of that excess cash. But it seems increasingly likely that we're going to have a ton of money chasing very little talent this summer, and the result is going to be some serious salary inflation.

All of which, of course, is going to make for some very interesting theater as the 2011 lockout date grows closer. The owners will use this as evidence that salaries have gone out of control. The players, on the other hand, will say the wild spending spree proves the owners' claims of losses are absurd.

Regardless of how they spin it, the forces of supply and demand have swung wildly in favor of the suppliers this summer. Only one thing is certain: The few GMs who saw this coming a year ago deserve a lot more credit than they're getting.
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1st time reading that I only got up to him calling Ainge "smart" when he tried to secretly trade away Rondo and Ray Allen earlier in the year but stopped when it was uncovered what he was doing. I think its been 2nd year in a row where he's tried to get rid of either guy.

Reading past the initial part and it makes a lot of sense what he's writing about since teams are going to pull stuff similar to the Knicks the last 6-8 years and kill their cap space by overpaying on any player. Instead of saving when quality players are signed up, majority of the NBA teams fell for ESPN's hype about the 2010 free agency as best year ever to sign. Players are going to come out as big winners when its all done.
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July 8th can't come soon enough.
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