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Rousey can generate media attention unlike almost anyone else. She seems very interested. I don't see the problem with including her in an attraction match.
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No point of rushing Balor. If anything he should headline NXT for another year then be brought up. Maybe bring him in right after 32.
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Yeah I feel like Finn is getting the post Mania call up.
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Finn is definitely a surefire post-WM call up.
They usually bring up several new guys after Mania. I'd have to guess at least one tag team will come up: either Enzo/Cass w/ Carmella, or The Vaudevillains. Sadly I can't see either team translating well on the main roster despite absolutely loving them on NXT. If Itami comes back soon and re-establishes himself quickly he may come up too, but I also feel like he's going to be a main roster flop. Not for lack of talent, more just his size and promo limitations. Probably better to stagger the call-ups if at all possible even if the night after Mania is meant to be the "traditional" time to bring up new names. |
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I know she's a draw but if she's not with the company, I don't want to see her doing anything. He current boss bashes the product regularly and has said he doesn't want her doing anything physical. Why give her a spot when you could use that time to push your own talent and maybe create your own Rousey. All for her joining WWE after her MMA career but putting her in a WWE match with Stephani at that matter would be dumb in my opinion.
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If they paired Heyman up with Rousey as her mouthpiece, and treated her as essentially female Brock Lesnar, it's an instant money printing device. A legitimate athlete with tangible credentials coming in and mauling the divas division, all the while Heyman cutting meaningful promos on the divas as well. Yes please.
I look at how Lesnar created a big match feel and spectacle as champion and see Rousey As easily capable of doing the same in the divas division. Not to mention, she'd be a legitimate draw. |
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It gets to the point with all these "big match feel" outsiders that I wonder why they even bother having a regular roster anymore. I get that all these guys like The Rock and Brock Lesnar and even Ronda Rousey will garner more interest than a guy like, say, Dolph Ziggler, who busts his ass every day of the year, but why should anyone get emotionally invested in guys like Ziggler or Cody Rhodes or anyone else when it's clear that the WWE themselves don't view them to be stars.
I understand from a business point-of-view that they want to sell tickets and generate mainstream interest, but as a fan of all these guys like Ziggler, Rhodes, Barrett and Cesaro etc, it's almost as if WWE themselves are flat-out saying "these guys aren't superstars, so let's not even bother". |
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I completely agree Rammsteinmad. The art is in using these names to create new stars and raise the current roster, as well as knowing when to hold back with some of them.
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I agree as well. Lesnar is the only part timer I'm interested in. If Rousey were to be on board, it's gotta be with consistent appearances. Maybe not house shows and what not, but a focal point of weekly television and monthly matches. She's gotta be wrestling regularly for me to invest in the idea of seeing her in a wresting ring.
Otherwise it's just a waste. I do love the way they used Lesnar from Rumble 2014 through Battleground this year, as he was progressively built and had on going storylines, even if he wasn't regularly featured. He's wrestled on 5 shows this year. Think that's most since his return. I'd like Rousy to be more involved, but the template for Brock this year has been miles better than the appearance rate of guys like Rock, Taker and HHH. |
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Rousey is definitely someone I would use at this WrestleMania, if she were willing, ready and GABLE!
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Yeah Im not even the biggest Rousey fan, but if they could get her to do something similar to Brock, I think that would be effective.
I just don't know how the contract details would work between UFC and WWE. |
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Pay her enough royalties and upside to pull her away?
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Really, the time to strike on signing Rousey is see how many fights she's contacted for, and try and negotiate a deal near the end of those terms with money, incentives and royalties comparable enough to lure her away. There's also the pitch that, as a seemingly legit fan she'd be interested in crossing over anyway. Just a matter of timing and if Vince can pony up.
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They're going to have to build up some Divas to put her against. Not interested in seeing her in a 5 minute divas match when you know the fight wouldn't last 15 seconds. She could have an arm bar challenge where anyone can try to last 2 minutes without Ronda applying the arm bar. Men could even do it.
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The only possible reason I'd wanna see Ronda Rousey in WWE, is in a no-DQ match again Eva Marie or whatever that redheads name is.
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That would probably end up with a Eva botch that injures Ronda and they have to call the match so Eva wins. Ronda goes undefeated in MMA and loses a match to Eva Marie.
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The problem isn't the part time stars. The problem is the fact that they unified the world titles. As soon as they got rid of the World Heavyweight Title wrestlers like Sheamus, Dolph Ziggler, and the like lost their "world title contender" status because no one could realistically see them being the best in the company with only one world title, which makes it so those guys don't really make sense matching it up with guys like Brock Lesnar or The Undertaker, because they aren't up to that ranking. The World Heavyweight Title put them at World Title status, and matches between Brock Lesnar and Sheamus didn't seem so unrealistic a few years ago, say when Sheamus was World Champ.
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Ehh. Like it better with only one. With 2 World champions one of them is always looked at as better and what's the point of being a world champ if people perceive you the second world champ. Only way it works is with a brand split and I don't think they will go back to that right now.
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Exactly They weren't the best in the company. That's why having a second world championship just so you could pretend they were was lame. You don't make stars by slapping a title on a guy and pretending.
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It's odd how people mark out for a title being called a "world title". Now they just have the guys who used to compete for the 2nd world title competing for the IC and US titles
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Back to the drawing boards, guys. No Shield Triple Threat.
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My entire fantasy Wrestlemania has gone out the window now! Might as well cancel the event. Good job, Rollins.
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Guaaaac
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Might as well rebook WM to.
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Rollins being out changes things, but I'm thinking they just do Reigns vs. Brock and Triple H vs. Ambrose. If they can get Rock, maybe they put him with Kevin Owens at this point? That feud would be pretty good on the mic and liven things up.
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I feel like they should keep Hunter strong until Rollins comes back. Unless they want to go with Reigns vs Hunter for the title at Mania, which I could see.
I'm guessing Hunter starts to assemble a new Authority faction after Survivor Series. I'm guessing Roman wins the title there, and then is beaten down by a new Authority group to keep Reigns busy until Mania. I've got a feeling Cesaro is turning heel, but we'll see. Cena-Reigns Taker-Wyatt Lesnar-Goldberg or Batista or Angle Hunter-Cesaro That's my guess right now. |
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Double post
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Do you see Reigns staying face and sheamus cashing in sunday?
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I hope that's not what happens. Watching the TV, I just hope either Roman wins clean or he is screwed and it ends up Kevin Owens is the new Authority guy, and they feud. But I think Roman needs to win. He shouldn't fail over and over. The storyline going forward should be Hunter trying to line up guys to get the title off Reigns and Reigns fends them off.
Cena returns and they play up him chasing the 16th world title at Mania against Roman. Roman goes over clean. I think Sheamus and Barrett are better off as a team for now. Have Sheamus cash in some time after Mania and align with The Authority. Eventually I would put the title on Ambrose (maybe this is how Rollins returns and goes baby). That way Reigns would still have a claim, and so would Rollins when he returns. But have all three as babyfaces. That eventually leads to a Triple Threat for the title. |
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I could see the Sheamus cash-in at Survivor Series. I'm not entirely sure I want it to happen, but face Reigns is tragic at this point. Sheamus and Barrett beating down Reigns and Ambrose with Sheamus walking out with the belt is not ideal, but it's something.
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Main Event:
Sting vs. Undertaker w/ HBK as Special Guest Ref and the loser retires on Raw. Co-Main Event: Fatal 4 Way Elimination Match WWE Title Roman Reigns (c) (Heel w/ The Authority) vs. Cena vs. The Rock (feud with Reigns) vs. Cesaro (As a heel and the Rumble winner.) Wyatt Family (Erick Rowan, Luke Harper, and Braun Strowman) vs. Kane and the APA WWE Intercontinental Title Match Bad News Barrett (c) vs. Stardust vs. Goldust Ryback vs. Brock Lesnar 10 Diva Ladder Match WWE Divas Championship Paige (c) vs. Charlotte vs. Becky Lynch vs. Brie Bella vs. Sascha Banks vs. Natalya vs. Nikki Bella vs. Naomi vs. Asuka vs. Bayley Money in the Bank Ladder Match Daniel Bryan vs. Dolph Ziggler vs. Kofi Kingston vs. Bray Wyatt vs. Sami Zayn vs. Samoa Joe vs. Chris Jericho vs. Dean Ambrose US Title Match Alberto Del Rio (c) vs. Randy Orton WWE Tag Team Title Match Team Tag Team Turmoil Elimination Match The New Day (Big E. and Xavier Woods) (c) vs. The Usos vs. The Ascension vs. The Dudley Boys vs. The Hardys. vs. The Prime Time Players vs. Sin Cara and Kalisto vs. Ryder and Rawley vs. Too Cool vs. Sheamus and Rusev |
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Meh, I think hot shot booking is lame, but you're right it would mix things up. Just dont think the timing is right for Sheamus.
I really think they just want Sheamus to be champ when TMNT is out so he can go on talk shows with the belt (so May/June time). I see him losing it shortly thereafter. If Reigns gets screwed at Survivor Series, you would think that would be his Mania opponent. I just dont see Sheamus vs Reigns as a Mania main event. I know some of you guys are not into Reigns, but he's been built up for the better part of a year, they should payoff that build. If he fails as a babyface world champion, so be it, you put it on someone else. But he deserves the chance to run with the ball. |
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