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Old 12-08-2004, 10:20 PM   #161
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I can picture Georgie in his office talking with his staff...

George: "Who should we go after?"
Guy: "Carl Pavano is a good, young pitcher. He is exactly what our pitching staff needs."
Guy 2: "Pedro Martinez. You should know that he is one of the best and dominant pitchers in the game. And it would really stick it to the Red Sox if we were to get him from them."
Guy 3: "Randy Johnson is still amazing after all of these years. However, we'd have to give up a lot of our farm system for him."
George: Carl Pavano? Never heard of him. Pedro Martinez? I don't like his hair. Randy Johnson? What the hell is a farm system?! Is there any other guys we can sign? What about the pitcher for the Braves?"
Guy 1: Russ Ortiz?
George: No. The guy everyone was raving about in the Indians organization....
Guy 2: Jaret Wright? The guy has only had like two good seasons, the rest of his career have been plagued by injuries and just plain suckitude.
George: But that just means he has plenty of good seasons left, I mean he was just getting the kinks out of his game before coming here. Let's give him a fat contract.
Guy 1: What? We still gotta resign Jon Lieber...
George: Lieber is a loser, we didn't even make it to the World Series last season! He's not worth my time! You're fired! He's fired! SIGN WRIGHT!
*Guy 1 leaves*
Guy 2: Are we still going after Pavano and/or Pedro?
George: I heard that Tony Womack guy is good, we need a second baseman. Sign him too...
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I'd love the Yanks to pick up Carl Pavano. Like seriously LOVE it.
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Glaus went to the D Backs

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I'd love the Yanks to pick up Carl Pavano. Like seriously LOVE it.
Yeah, I'm suprised I haven't heard much of the Yanks talking to Pavano, maybe they still figure they will get RJ.

Someone who played w/ Pavano said he expects him to be a Red Sox soon.

But you can put that w/ the other 50 rumors going around.

Another one is a Sox trade for Hudson, would include Arroyo and I didn't listen to what else, because I don't think it's gonna happen.
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Stupid. he gets 4 years and 45 mil and he so damn injury prone
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Beltre, Izturis, Kent

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Fuck. Well, the good thing is that he's not on the Yankees
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Old 12-09-2004, 09:25 PM   #174
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Beltre still has to resign
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Most sources are saying he most likely will though right?
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Gonzo on the radio, says the D-Backs making this move, may change Randy's mind about wanting to leave.
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I could definately see that, if they can made themselves a decent team the NL West could always really be anybody.
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Looks like Russ Ortiz is about to sign a 3 year 27 mil. contract with the D'Backs...and Randy's mind still hasn't changed.
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Ortiz is a D'Back.

our rotation looks damn good if Unit stays.

Unit - Ortiz- Webby

and apparently they're supposed to be persuing Shawn Estes
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Well the reason RJ didn't leave the D'Backs last year at the deadline was because management asked him to give them a chance to prove they were serious about rebuilding. Since he stayed last year, I knew the D'Backs would rebuild fast around him. I see him staying. Elsewise he would have left last year.
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I can picture Georgie in his office talking with his staff...

George: "Who should we go after?"
Guy: "Carl Pavano is a good, young pitcher. He is exactly what our pitching staff needs."
Guy 2: "Pedro Martinez. You should know that he is one of the best and dominant pitchers in the game. And it would really stick it to the Red Sox if we were to get him from them."
Guy 3: "Randy Johnson is still amazing after all of these years. However, we'd have to give up a lot of our farm system for him."
George: Carl Pavano? Never heard of him. Pedro Martinez? I don't like his hair. Randy Johnson? What the hell is a farm system?! Is there any other guys we can sign? What about the pitcher for the Braves?"
Guy 1: Russ Ortiz?
George: No. The guy everyone was raving about in the Indians organization....
Guy 2: Jaret Wright? The guy has only had like two good seasons, the rest of his career have been plagued by injuries and just plain suckitude.
George: But that just means he has plenty of good seasons left, I mean he was just getting the kinks out of his game before coming here. Let's give him a fat contract.
Guy 1: What? We still gotta resign Jon Lieber...
George: Lieber is a loser, we didn't even make it to the World Series last season! He's not worth my time! You're fired! He's fired! SIGN WRIGHT!
*Guy 1 leaves*
Guy 2: Are we still going after Pavano and/or Pedro?
George: I heard that Tony Womack guy is good, we need a second baseman. Sign him too...
What "Guy 2" said about Wright is true, but it could also be said about Pavano.
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Well the reason RJ didn't leave the D'Backs last year at the deadline was because management asked him to give them a chance to prove they were serious about rebuilding. Since he stayed last year, I knew the D'Backs would rebuild fast around him. I see him staying. Elsewise he would have left last year.
Uh, he can't just "leave" whenever he wants. He is under contract. If the D'backs want him to stay, he has to stay.
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Uh, he can't just "leave" whenever he wants. He is under contract. If the D'backs want him to stay, he has to stay.
If he asked for a trade, they'd trade him. Ask Seattle.
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As I recall it, it was the D'backs that wanted to trade him last year, and Randy who didn't want to go. Then, after about two weeks of coaxing, he finally decided to agree to a trade -- but only if it was to the Yankees.

That's why saying "They're trying to convince Randy to stay" makes absolutely no sense to me.
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Well he did ask for a trade...but they couldn't find the right deal. Technically if he was really that pissed he could hold out or something, but that would just get him fined and stuff.
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I think it's the D'backs that want to trade RJ, not the other way around. I don't see how signing an often-injured 3B and a mediocre starter is "convincing" him to stay anyways. And then they're pursuing Estes, who is horrible...whoopee.
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In reality the D-Backs would be the winners, not Randy, if they could trade him. If they trade him for the last year, then they will get something back, and something really good. If they don't trade him, they get nothing and he walks. All Randy is getting is a shot at a World Series that most likely won't work out .
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The way I remember it, RJ was interested in moving on. Not the other way around. I'm sure of it.
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The way I remember it, RJ was interested in moving on. Not the other way around. I'm sure of it.
at first RJ didn't want to go, ie: break his no-trade.

Then he ok'd the Yanks and the D-Backs wanted to move him elsewhere.

Then the rumor was this offseason he had a short list that was more then just the Yanks.

Here's what I don't get, aren't this the same D-Backs that MLB bailed out a few years ago because they couldn't make they're payroll?

Where's all the money coming from?
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Yeah I wonder about that too VEL. They were world champs, yet they were bankrupt. I thought ok, they made a run 'come hell or high water' yet here they are perhaps preparing to do it all over again. Time will tell.

A for RJ, it was somewhat complex. He wanted to move, they wanted him to stay.. then he warmed up to the idea of moving (under the right circumstance) then they wanted to keep him... It's all rather odd.
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Wells... interesting, the Sox really wanted a Lefty, a Good Lefty can be great in Fenway.

8mil and w/ incentives that could be 18mil.

There also setting up for there minor league pitchers to come up the next 1-3 years.

Wells has a 2yr deal, Schill has 1yr left and a 1yr option.

Limited Sox tix went on sale today, got tix to 6 games, missed on the opening day packages. Gotta be honest, might not have gone, $12.00 bleachers are going for $700.00, so I probably would have sold them.

Other notes, Gammons was just on, said the Sox signed wells because they are confident Pedro is coming back and that they wont get Pavano because the Tigers are willing to go 5yrs and the sox aren't.

Also that the sox are close to a deal w/ Renteria and Gammons thinks when all is said and done Teck will come back also.
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looks like Pavano is close to signing with them Yanks. 4 year 48 million
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WTF is up with the Tigers?
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BREAKING NEWS FROM THE WINTER MEETINGS: The Boston Red Sox have signed Edgar Renteria.
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