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Old 02-22-2005, 01:57 PM   #161
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I guess the WWE heard Innovator was going to RAW, had to break out one of the best RAWs I've seen in a while.

BTW, words don't do justice to the last 5 minutes of RAW live.
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Old 02-22-2005, 02:18 PM   #162
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You lucky bastard. I need to get myself to a live taping
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Old 02-22-2005, 02:34 PM   #163
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Yo, i missed the E&C segment/match...the Batista/Evolution ending was tight as hell...but what happened to E&C? I keep reading "E&C reunion was f'n awesome" and "E&C was great!" What happened with E&C?
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Old 02-22-2005, 02:36 PM   #164
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Freakin marks around me not wanting to start a con-chair-to chant. At least I saw the E & C reunion

If you guys think Trish and Victoria are hot on TV, just see them 20 feet from you.
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Old 02-22-2005, 02:39 PM   #165
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I don't understand why people watch wrestling, ESPECIALLY WWE, when there looking for things NOT to be predictable. Almost all of wrestling is. And when things are not predicatable, fans just turn on it or they screw it up anyway.

**SEE WCW 2000.
I agree to a point. People don't want something totally alien pulled on them in TV, much less in wrestling.
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Old 02-22-2005, 02:42 PM   #166
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Funniest thing of the night, besides my friends during the girl match, was my friend's reaction to Hussan:

Before interview: "Dude I've never seen anything like this (referring to the heat he was getting)"

During interview: "Wait why are people booing him? he's got a point"
He has a point. Like Eminem, he has a point that is mired in his own whining. Let's face it, the Hussan character is basically saying "Fuck you for treating me bad!" Then, "OMG, WHY DON'T YOU LIKE ME?"
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Old 02-22-2005, 03:48 PM   #167
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Batista is the man.

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Old 02-22-2005, 04:09 PM   #168
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Best. Ending. Ever. HHH looked like he was killed during the powerbomb, but man, was it sweet.

I don't like Chris Masters. If he is the masterpiece, then that artist is blind.

I am also happy that E and C did split up. I can't watch them tag anymore because I see those two as individuals now, especially **pats chest** Capitan Charisma!

And for an appearance of Vicky. To quote my boy Capt. Charisma: "..... I love you."
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Old 02-22-2005, 04:21 PM   #169
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Old 02-22-2005, 05:07 PM   #170
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The Chris Masters thing was the biggest letdown. There was no need to see the Randy Orton pose and sparkles two times in one night. Terrible.
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Old 02-22-2005, 05:08 PM   #171
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Old 02-22-2005, 06:13 PM   #172
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Well, I've been very much the anti-WWE fan of recent weeks, but the 2nd hour of Raw was reasonable. Batista's face turn - obvious, but Trip's openly admitting it? Not what I expected, could have done that a bit better. Surely Dave's powerbomb/table shot was up there with the best? I sat there thinking - 'wow, what if he's actually injured from that?'.

You did almost feel that the rest of the show was just a lot of cobbled together matches. If they are going to dig out E&C's conchairto, then why not give Mr. Concussion one? Would have worked well for the storyline (that is now apparently forgotten). What was the point in Jericho - Simon Dean? Almost a house show match. have they really got nothing for Y2J to do? Stick him on SD for gawds sake.
Kane's match, even more pointless. Tomko on the mic? As he said (and looks like trying to build a career out of) - No.

Wonder if Master's is going to join Evolution. As a type of hitman for Triple H leading to 'Mania. Might be interesting.

Hassan v Benoit. Don't think much of Hassan except his finisher, be interesting next week though.

6/10 overall.
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Old 02-22-2005, 07:35 PM   #173
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Where were your seats Innovator?
About 8 feet from JR and the King, I could hear them when the crowd was quiet.

The camera that swings/moves when the wrestlers walk down the ramp was right in front of me. The camera guy had joysticks and shit to move it. Anyways I got a thumbs up and a wave from King before and after the show. The seat were pretty kick ass for 40 bucks.
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Old 02-22-2005, 09:15 PM   #174
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The Chris Masters thing was the biggest letdown. There was no need to see the Randy Orton pose and sparkles two times in one night. Terrible.
I agree on this.

Masters was a waste. Though it gave us a chance to see Richards on Raw...

seriously, you have King jerking off over his looks, too, and it's insane. You've got a guy who is supposed to be a "masterpiece" and yet he looks like his face was hit by a truck. And I swear...It looked like he was CHEWIng GUM.

So far, his persona looks like nothing more than they nicked traits from Orton and The "Reflection of Perfection." You know, if they weren't current wrestlers (Though RoP isn't the current gimmick), this might be okay, but it's overused.
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Old 02-22-2005, 09:37 PM   #175
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I've been watching wrestling for almost 20 years and that will go down as a momwnt I'll always remember.

REMEMBER: BUILDUP IS A GOOD THING.
LOL

I thought it was built up great, and the payoff was excellent, but I dont think it was 'that' good.

I hate to be a wet blanket, but I'll really mark out when I see the landscape of the WWE 8 months from now. Until then, its just another angle that keeps Hunter in the top mix.
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Old 02-22-2005, 09:47 PM   #176
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yea, that hit me today and I'm sort of coming back to reality. Like today I was seeing next weeks Raw in my head and I'm seeing Hunter beating down Batista and leaving him laying to end the show. And that's just....god that would suck.

But I'll never forget the "Thumbs Down" from Batista. From a writing standpoint, everything came full circle with that. What goes around comes around and it sure did. Genious.

Definately on my 50 Greatest Raw moments list
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Old 02-22-2005, 09:50 PM   #177
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Anyone else think Chris Masters looks like a young Steve Austin?
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Old 02-22-2005, 09:51 PM   #178
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You know...the rookie that I was most interested in was Mordecai..and he was pulled off last year before anything happened. I'd want to see Mordecai anyday over Matthews. Is there ever a chance of him coming back again?
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Old 02-22-2005, 10:15 PM   #180
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You know...the rookie that I was most interested in was Mordecai..and he was pulled off last year before anything happened. I'd want to see Mordecai anyday over Matthews. Is there ever a chance of him coming back again?
Once his stint with the ren fair ends.

Anyway, most of the newbies are dull as fuck.
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Old 02-23-2005, 11:11 AM   #181
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Old 02-23-2005, 08:39 PM   #182
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It wouldn't be the worst idea to have Hunter, Flair and some other guys (say Hunter hires some big dudes like Vis) and have them try to injure Batista.

Keep him off TV for a week, and have Hunter claim that Batista wont be at Mania, because he took him out. Of course Batista comes out and in the weeks leading to Mania he gets revenge on all the guys who were in on the beating. Except Hunter of course, who he leaves for Mania. Hunter would keep running away from Batista every week.

My thinking is that they need to make people want to see Batista kick the shit out of Hunter again.

But they have to be careful not to repeat the mistakes they made with Orton, having Batista get beat up or outsmarted every week.

One of the great things about this angle was that Batista never once looked like a dumbass. He was always one step ahead of Hunter. Hence the reason people are behind him.
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Old 02-23-2005, 09:05 PM   #184
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It wouldn't be the worst idea to have Hunter, Flair and some other guys (say Hunter hires some big dudes like Vis) and have them try to injure Batista.

Keep him off TV for a week, and have Hunter claim that Batista wont be at Mania, because he took him out. Of course Batista comes out and in the weeks leading to Mania he gets revenge on all the guys who were in on the beating. Except Hunter of course, who he leaves for Mania. Hunter would keep running away from Batista every week.

My thinking is that they need to make people want to see Batista kick the shit out of Hunter again.

But they have to be careful not to repeat the mistakes they made with Orton, having Batista get beat up or outsmarted every week.

One of the great things about this angle was that Batista never once looked like a dumbass. He was always one step ahead of Hunter. Hence the reason people are behind him.
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Old 02-24-2005, 05:44 PM   #185
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Old 02-24-2005, 05:50 PM   #186
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