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Old 05-20-2006, 01:13 PM   #161
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And that, my friends, is UNACCEPTABLE!
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Old 05-20-2006, 01:51 PM   #162
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If you don't plan on having serious discussion, please make a seperate thread.


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Old 05-20-2006, 02:15 PM   #163
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Actually I posted my opinions on The Great Khali recently. Here is the thread:

http://www.tpww.net/forums/showthread.php?t=45240

And no, I don't own the site, but I think that you need to follow the rules of etiquette and not posting with the sole intent of insulting other posters.

Alienoid gave a great solution to the problem I raised.
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Old 05-20-2006, 02:31 PM   #164
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Um, not once has anyone here said that JBL is anything better than a mediocre wrestler.
I say he is a terrible wrestler
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Old 05-20-2006, 02:32 PM   #165
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Actually I posted my opinions on The Great Khali recently. Here is the thread:

http://www.tpww.net/forums/showthread.php?t=45240

And no, I don't own the site, but I think that you need to follow the rules of etiquette and not posting with the sole intent of insulting other posters.

Alienoid gave a great solution to the problem I raised.
DO I NEED TO GO E-HEEL
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Old 05-20-2006, 02:37 PM   #166
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Personally I don't think Rey deserves a main event spot. Face the truth Vermat,he is the world HEAVYWEIGHT champion all thanks to his late buddy Eddie Gurrero. I would rather see Bradshaw as the Champ and that my friend is undoubtedly ACCEPTABLE.
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Old 05-20-2006, 02:39 PM   #167
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Old 05-20-2006, 10:58 PM   #168
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Old 05-20-2006, 11:12 PM   #169
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this thread title is UNACCEPTABLE

your last 5+ page thread title became catch phrase of the year man... you dropped the ball with this one
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Old 05-20-2006, 11:16 PM   #170
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And no, I don't own the site, but I think that you need to follow the rules of etiquette and not posting with the sole intent of insulting other posters.
Dude, look at the forum you're reading, come back and say that with a straight face.
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Old 05-20-2006, 11:17 PM   #171
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This UNACCEPTABLE catch phrase is MAKE IT or BREAK IT.
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Old 05-20-2006, 11:21 PM   #172
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To BREAK this thread down, it's UNACCEPTABLE for JBL to MAKE IT and ACCEPTABLE for JBL to BREAK IT.
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Old 05-21-2006, 12:02 AM   #173
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I don't know why he doesn't like JBL. His shower games are UNIQUe and INNOVATIVE uses of otherwise mundane moves.

I think it's high time WWE put over some of their YOUNG, HARD-WORKING talent like JBL.
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Old 05-21-2006, 01:00 AM   #174
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I don't know why he doesn't like JBL. His shower games are UNIQUe and INNOVATIVE uses of otherwise mundane moves.

I think it's high time WWE put over some of their HARD-WORKING talent like JBL.

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Old 05-21-2006, 01:38 AM   #175
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As for The Heat: you've been here for 5 months and you're giving morality lessons about how we should react to other people's posts? Are you serious? Do some research on Vermaat's previous posts and his general douchebaggery and maybe you'll understand why people react to him the way they do.

You fucking pussy.
Further proving my point for me. I wasn't giving a morality lesson, simply telling the truth. You know, calling it as I see it. If you don't see it the same way fine. I could care less. Name-calling is the art of children. Grow the fuck up, then just maybe, you could have an intelligent debate. The art of actually having a POINT. Try it.

Although Vermaat's post often do not have fact nor sense in them, he does retain the right to post his opinion. If having an opinion makes me a "fucking pussy" I guess that makes you boss cunt. Besides, what does my being here "5 months" have to do with anything? Does that NOT allow me to post my opinion? And if so, who made you boss? I guess idiotic logic is quite blinding, huh?

As for the topic, JBL deserves the World Title about as much as The Great Khali
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Old 05-21-2006, 02:37 AM   #176
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Further proving my point for me. I wasn't giving a morality lesson, simply telling the truth. You know, calling it as I see it. If you don't see it the same way fine. I could care less. Name-calling is the art of children. Grow the fuck up, then just maybe, you could have an intelligent debate. The art of actually having a POINT. Try it.

Although Vermaat's post often do not have fact nor sense in them, he does retain the right to post his opinion. If having an opinion makes me a "fucking pussy" I guess that makes you boss cunt. Besides, what does my being here "5 months" have to do with anything? Does that NOT allow me to post my opinion? And if so, who made you boss? I guess idiotic logic is quite blinding, huh?

As for the topic, JBL deserves the World Title about as much as The Great Khali
My opinion is...your a fucking pussy.

Vermin's posts have very little substance to them. He spins off all this promise about how he'll listen to other people, how he'll try to debate them, and then shuts us down by saying shit like "Well, your not real wrestling fans." Bullshit. I think we're the few real wrestling fans left.

As for you Mr. Heat....sorry to say but if you have less than a 1000 posts, your opinion means shit to us.
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Old 05-21-2006, 04:04 AM   #177
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My opinion is...your a fucking pussy.

Vermin's posts have very little substance to them. He spins off all this promise about how he'll listen to other people, how he'll try to debate them, and then shuts us down by saying shit like "Well, your not real wrestling fans." Bullshit. I think we're the few real wrestling fans left.

As for you Mr. Heat....sorry to say but if you have less than a 1000 posts, your opinion means shit to us.
What is this? The "Over 1000 posts owners kiss each other's asses club"? For the record, I don't give a fuck who likes me around here. Last time I checked, the purpose of a message board is to share opinions on wrestling. So, if you don't "give a shit" about my opinion, why so much interest in replying to it? Little bit of irony, wouldn't ya say?

PureHatred & Yourself[Shadow] have both proven my point for me. You have a topic that should've been either ignored or closed several pages ago, yet, people refuse to let it die. Instead, it has degenerated into a name-calling marathon in which the topic at hand has been COMPLETELY IGNORED.

All I've seen are these so-called "good posters"[most who I might add have 1,000 posts or over] ganging up on one dude for his view on wrestling. I'm sure you've heard that variety is the spice of life. What kinda one-dimensional world would we live in if everyone conformed to your specific view?

Bottom line, most of the replies in this topic have been a bunch of hypocritical statements by people who think their own OPINION is fact and is God's honest truth. Fact is, its not about who's right or wrong. Opinion is NOT fact.

And who's to say Shadow & friends are the only "true" wrestling fans left? Who decides that? Just another example of net' hypocrisy at its finest.
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Somebody give this man his own weekly column. Seriously. His posts are incredibly entertaining. Call it "MAKE IT or BREAK IT - the acceptable view on wrestling by Vermaat". Or something more original.
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Old 05-21-2006, 10:43 AM   #180
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Further proving my point for me. I wasn't giving a morality lesson, simply telling the truth. You know, calling it as I see it. If you don't see it the same way fine. I could care less. Name-calling is the art of children. Grow the fuck up, then just maybe, you could have an intelligent debate. The art of actually having a POINT. Try it.

Although Vermaat's post often do not have fact nor sense in them, he does retain the right to post his opinion. If having an opinion makes me a "fucking pussy" I guess that makes you boss cunt. Besides, what does my being here "5 months" have to do with anything? Does that NOT allow me to post my opinion? And if so, who made you boss? I guess idiotic logic is quite blinding, huh?

As for the topic, JBL deserves the World Title about as much as The Great Khali
Wow. Hypocrisy again? I guess only you and Vermaat can call it like they see it.
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Old 05-21-2006, 02:03 PM   #181
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Old 05-21-2006, 09:58 PM   #182
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Further proving my point for me. I wasn't giving a morality lesson, simply telling the truth. You know, calling it as I see it. If you don't see it the same way fine. I could care less. Name-calling is the art of children. Grow the fuck up, then just maybe, you could have an intelligent debate. The art of actually having a POINT. Try it.

Although Vermaat's post often do not have fact nor sense in them, he does retain the right to post his opinion. If having an opinion makes me a "fucking pussy" I guess that makes you boss cunt. Besides, what does my being here "5 months" have to do with anything? Does that NOT allow me to post my opinion? And if so, who made you boss? I guess idiotic logic is quite blinding, huh?

As for the topic, JBL deserves the World Title about as much as The Great Khali
This has nothing to do with post count or whether or not someone's opinion is valid. It has to do with the fact that Vermaat pretty much surrendered all credibility by making posts and then totally ignoring or dismissing anyone with a valid argument. There are plenty of people here with contradictory oipinions, but at least when they argue they have reasons to back themselves up and will listen wehn others point out holes in their logic.

Vermaat has no credibility because his method of argument is to cover his ears and scream at the top of the lungs "I'M NOT HEARING YOU!" like he's a five year old.

You argue about people's right to have an opinion, and then defend the one person on this board who uiniversally ignores every opinion on his own. I called you a pussy because you thought you were doing the noble thing by helping out the guy being "picked on" by all the big bad bullies when if you had read through his past statements you would've seen that he didn't get jumped on until he simply tried to force his ridiculous views on everyone else.

Being a retard is one thing; being a self-righteous retard is something else entirely.

Not every minority opinion is defenseless or weak and not every attack is unjustified. Sometimes people deserve to get verbally shit on. Vermaat is one of those people. And since you can't handle that, you're kind of a pussy.
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Old 05-22-2006, 08:18 AM   #183
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This has nothing to do with post count or whether or not someone's opinion is valid. It has to do with the fact that Vermaat pretty much surrendered all credibility by making posts and then totally ignoring or dismissing anyone with a valid argument. There are plenty of people here with contradictory oipinions, but at least when they argue they have reasons to back themselves up and will listen wehn others point out holes in their logic.
While I have briefly noticed that sometimes Vermaat's posts are rather contradictory, he does have the right to say whatever he wants. As do you and the rest of this board. Is that correct or not? I guess you'll now say my posts are illogical because I don't agree? And for the record the post count/months been here thing wasn't brought up by me: it was a sarcastic shot @ the guy who did[since most of you cannot pick up on sarcastic humor].

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Vermaat has no credibility because his method of argument is to cover his ears and scream at the top of the lungs "I'M NOT HEARING YOU!" like he's a five year old.
As do you and the others when you bash Vermaat for simply stating his opinion. Anyone else see the irony besides me?

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You argue about people's right to have an opinion, and then defend the one person on this board who uiniversally ignores every opinion on his own. I called you a pussy because you thought you were doing the noble thing by helping out the guy being "picked on" by all the big bad bullies when if you had read through his past statements you would've seen that he didn't get jumped on until he simply tried to force his ridiculous views on everyone else.
If that's supposed to be an unwritten rule of this board, alot of people are "forcing ridiculous views on everyone else". I defended Vermaat because you have so-called "good posters" all jumping on the anti-Vermaat bandwagon simply because they disagree. It seems as though your pre-existing hatred makes you automatically biased[you and the others blindly bashing Vermaat].

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Something you and your posse could learn from. You guys are so wrapped up in believing your own OPINION[that word comes up rather often] that you fail to think other free-thinkers might disagree with your view. I am FAR from self-righteous. I simply stated you and the others were beating a dead-horse in repeatedly bashing Vermaat for expressing himself the way you and everyone else here does. If you think his logic is full of holes, debate him on his invalid points and be done. Don't turn it into a 5 fucking page flame-fest and then turn it around on me to make me look "self-righteous". There's a distinguishable difference between having the integrity to end a stalemate than to get involved[which I did by trying to end this useless thread, which the topic to died long ago turning into anti-Vermaat flaming wars].



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Not every minority opinion is defenseless or weak and not every attack is unjustified. Sometimes people deserve to get verbally shit on. Vermaat is one of those people. And since you can't handle that, you're kind of a pussy.
That's the most illogical piece of bullshit I've ever heard. You "verbally shit" on everyone you disagree with? You are a sad, miserable person if the answer is yes. I'm a pussy? For telling you to stop beating a dead horse topic? You're a moron for even calling me a name without being justified in doing so. This whole board is full of whiny little kids[or at least intelligence level thereof] for ruining a topic such as this one.

I can handle anything that happens. Except for people using illogical, blind, biased or plain out bullshit logic to turn a good topic bad. You know what, if you don't get the picture by now, you've no hope left........

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Wow! Hypocrisy again? I guess only you and Vermaat can call it like they see it.
What is it that makes you think you can automatically enter a topic and add absolutely NOTHING to it, yet, can be the judge of everyone on the board? I've noticed you've got a pattern of jumping into threads purposely ruining them by arguing. What are you, the TPWW bandwagon police? Here to verbally arrest us for having an opinion?

I call every topic as I see it. If you don't agree, fine. Let's agree to disagree. I never defended Vermaat's logic. Point out one instance where I did. You won't find it. Now, if I had, that would be me being a hypocrite. However, I simply tried to get people to realize this topic was becoming nonsense.

It's like one was trying to top the other on nothingness. If you are content to keep ruining topics, while furthering them to 5-10 pages of utter BS, go ahead. I'm done explaining.

But, you cannot say I ever contradicted myself. I never called names[at least until I was called one first]. This topic is dead to me. I guess now, people will reply to me in a topic like they do to Vermaat flaming just because they don't particularly agree with me. Grow the fuck up!
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Old 05-22-2006, 10:18 AM   #184
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What is it that makes you think you can automatically enter a topic and add absolutely NOTHING to it, yet, can be the judge of everyone on the board?
First off, I quoted this from another thread, knowing the minute I read your response there that it would be needed moments later...

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You...

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Wow...You really don't get the irony of the situation.

That is totally amazing...
The amazing part here, is not so much you calling the kettle black, it's how utterly unaware you are of being blacker than Eminem.

Also, come on. Judge of everyone on the board? That's pretty weak. It's a conspiracy theory at best.

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Something you and your posse could learn from. You guys are so wrapped up in believing your own OPINION[that word comes up rather often] that you fail to think other free-thinkers might disagree with your view.
Something you and yours could learn (Note the lack of from): The difference between opinion and fact. Just because someone insists upon or adheres to an opinion does not make it an expression of fact. In fact, aside from Vermaat, who actually has passed his opinion off as fact, I'm hard pressed to find anyone doing this. And even then, I have to dig back.

In fact, most of the arguments in this thread hinge on the simple notion that they should be assumed as opinions in the first place, and that you have to be pretty stupid or lack an understanding of the nature and context of the conversation, and don't forget the English Language, to think that people should have to drop "IMHO" or other statements of opinion after that which can only be or can reasonably be assumed to be opinion.

...Or they're intentionally inflamatory and not meant to be taken serious in the first place. But again, that's not opinion as fact, and bringing that up becomes pointless fast.

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You "verbally shit" on everyone you disagree with?
Why would you even need to ask that, when it's clear from the statement you quoted that he doesn't?

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I call every topic as I see it. If you don't agree, fine. Let's agree to disagree.
Wow. You fold faster than a Democrat.

In fact, that's the crux of the matter. You seem unable to grasp the concept that people can disagree, without resorting to this bullshit notion that suddenly people are passing opinion off as fact.

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I never defended Vermaat's logic.
Never claimed you did.

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Point out one instance where I did. You won't find it. Now, if I had, that would be me being a hypocrite. However, I simply tried to get people to realize this topic was becoming nonsense.
Never claimed that made you a hypocrite.

Point out where I said that "You defending Vermaat's logic makes you a hypocrite."

Since you want to pull out the anal retentive "prove where I said it" card.

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But, you cannot say I ever contradicted myself.
LOL. Keep telling yourself that. I mean, you never defended Vermaat's logic, and that's the only place you could be called on contradiction, right?
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Next person who goes to a WWE event HAS to bring a MAKE IT or BREAK IT sign
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Old 05-22-2006, 02:48 PM   #187
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I will.

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Old 05-22-2006, 02:53 PM   #188
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If I score tickets to SummerSlam (in Boston IIRC) I will DEFINITELY do that.

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Old 05-22-2006, 02:57 PM   #189
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Old 05-22-2006, 02:59 PM   #190
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If I score tickets to SummerSlam (in Boston IIRC) I will DEFINITELY do that.

"Tonight's PPV is
MAKE IT
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BREAK IT!"
Can I sit next to you with a sign that says "<---------------Bad Apple" on it?
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Old 05-22-2006, 03:06 PM   #191
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I'd love to see a white man in black face go to a wrestling event with a "Cena's Biggest Fan" sign dressed as a rapper.

And I want him to have front row, camera-side seats.
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AWWWW SNAP! Looks like today was BREAK IT for Kane Knight.
This 'Make it or break it' stuff, whats it all about. Have I missed something?
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This 'Make it or break it' stuff, whats it all about. Have I missed something?
Vermaat did a whole MAKE IT OR BREAK IT thread about how WrestleMania was MAKE IT OR BREAK IT. He has such suggestions as putting Mark Henry over Taker, Cena HAVING to retain and that Rey Mysterio is one of the most INNOVATIVE and YOUNG wrestlers in the world.

http://tpww.net/forums/showthread.php?t=42967

It made 14 pages.
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Old 05-22-2006, 03:26 PM   #194
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I'd love to see a white man in black face go to a wrestling event with a "Cena's Biggest Fan" sign dressed as a rapper.

And I want him to have front row, camera-side seats.
You'd be kicked out in 3 minutes.

...Did someone just say THREE MINUTES?
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Old 05-22-2006, 03:37 PM   #195
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This 'Make it or break it' stuff, whats it all about. Have I missed something?
I didn't read the thread myself, but but this same fucking fag who made this pitiful excuse for a thread that said that WM 22 was "Make it or break it" for the WWE. It's been used ever since.

That thread is here: http://www.tpww.net/forums/showthread.php?t=42967
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Vermaat did a whole MAKE IT OR BREAK IT thread about how WrestleMania was MAKE IT OR BREAK IT. He has such suggestions as putting Mark Henry over Taker, Cena HAVING to retain and that Rey Mysterio is one of the most INNOVATIVE and YOUNG wrestlers in the world.

http://tpww.net/forums/showthread.php?t=42967

It made 14 pages.
Goddamnit. Made the post as you were.

Beat me to it, you jerk.














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Old 05-22-2006, 04:05 PM   #197
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First of all, I'm glad WWE made the right decision on the PPV. WWE is once again heading into the right direction! Rey's reign can only get better and better from now and here's hoping we see a great Benoit/Rey feud that would be great. Good job WWE

And for those of you asking why I capitalized some words, well, let me educate you. It's called emphasis. Look it up!

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Personally I don't think Rey deserves a main event spot. Face the truth Vermat,he is the world HEAVYWEIGHT champion all thanks to his late buddy Eddie Gurrero. I would rather see Bradshaw as the Champ and that my friend is undoubtedly ACCEPTABLE
Rey deserves it. Rey was over before the Eddie association, he was one of the most over people on Smackdown. I also heard that Rey was very over in wCw so he has been over for quite a long time and he has always worked hard and put over anyone WWE put in with him. If anyone deserves a world title run, it's Rey. The Eddie stuff did not make Rey "over", he was over before it.

And if you think a crappy wrestler would make a good champion, perhaps you should watch something else.

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Vermaat has no credibility because his method of argument is to cover his ears and scream at the top of the lungs "I'M NOT HEARING YOU!" like he's a five year old.
False. Your method of argument is to INSULT and DEFAME my character and IGNORE the points I am making because you cannot adress them.

I have always adressed all points raised by other posters with logic and valid arguments. Saying that I don't, doesn't make it true buddy!

You realize your weakness and you feel the only way to adress it is to defame my character, ignore my points and try to make me look dumb. Doesn't work buddy, anyone with the comprehension ability of a normal person (like Heat) can see theough your facade and see that besides your insults you got nothing because that's all you spew out once your arguments have been turned back.

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didn't read the thread myself, but but this same fucking fag who made this pitiful excuse for a thread that said that WM 22 was "Make it or break it"
If anyone is pitiful here, it is you. I feel sorry that you are only able to post insults and are physically unable to engage in logical argument.
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First of all, I'm glad WWE made the right decision on the PPV. WWE is once again heading into the right direction! Rey's reign can only get better and better from now and here's hoping we see a great Benoit/Rey feud that would be great. Good job WWE

And for those of you asking why I capitalized some words, well, let me educate you. It's called emphasis. Look it up!

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Personally I don't think Rey deserves a main event spot. Face the truth Vermat,he is the world HEAVYWEIGHT champion all thanks to his late buddy Eddie Gurrero. I would rather see Bradshaw as the Champ and that my friend is undoubtedly ACCEPTABLE
Rey deserves it. Rey was over before the Eddie association, he was one of the most over people on Smackdown. I also heard that Rey was very over in wCw so he has been over for quite a long time and he has always worked hard and put over anyone WWE put in with him. If anyone deserves a world title run, it's Rey. The Eddie stuff did not make Rey "over", he was over before it.

And if you think a crappy wrestler would make a good champion, perhaps you should watch something else.

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Vermaat has no credibility because his method of argument is to cover his ears and scream at the top of the lungs "I'M NOT HEARING YOU!" like he's a five year old.
False. Your method of argument is to INSULT and DEFAME my character and IGNORE the points I am making because you cannot adress them.

I have always adressed all points raised by other posters with logic and valid arguments. Saying that I don't, doesn't make it true buddy!

You realize your weakness and you feel the only way to adress it is to defame my character, ignore my points and try to make me look dumb. Doesn't work buddy, anyone with the comprehension ability of a normal person (like Heat) can see theough your facade and see that besides your insults you got nothing because that's all you spew out once your arguments have been turned back.

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didn't read the thread myself, but but this same fucking fag who made this pitiful excuse for a thread that said that WM 22 was "Make it or break it"
If anyone is pitiful here, it is you. I feel sorry that you are only able to post insults and are physically unable to engage in logical argument.
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Old 05-22-2006, 08:09 PM   #199
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If you actually participated in a logical argument, you might have grounds to talk.
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Hey Maaty, was putting the older Booker T over the young up and coming Bobby Lashey the right decision, even though it was in a tourney that's historically been designed to promote new YOUNG talent?

Or was it ok because Lashley has no personality?


Was it okay for Khali, who also has no personality, to completely destroy Undertaker in a match that made no sense in terms of each wrestler's credibility?

Or was it ok because he's the young guy they're pushing?


Just wondering, actually.
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