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Old 01-31-2007, 09:24 PM   #161
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Predictions on who he'll be jobbing to next?

People backstage probably think straight edge is gay
The only sensible thing to come out of the locker room.
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Old 01-31-2007, 09:31 PM   #162
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Not home grown? Who in the WWE is if he isn't?
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Old 01-31-2007, 09:31 PM   #163
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I seriously never thought he was going to be WWE Champ or anything, but I always thought he would be a US/IC Title fixture.

You know, the guy that could always put on a good show when given the chance but never gets the ball just because of where he came from and the fact that he's not 6'10" 315lbs.
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Old 01-31-2007, 09:32 PM   #164
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Old 01-31-2007, 09:32 PM   #165
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Old 01-31-2007, 09:32 PM   #166
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And CM Punk isn't like them how?
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Old 01-31-2007, 09:33 PM   #167
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Where has he been? Three months in TNA hardly counts...
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Old 01-31-2007, 09:34 PM   #168
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Old 01-31-2007, 09:34 PM   #169
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John Cena was huge in UPW, so he clearly is UPW home grown talent.
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Old 01-31-2007, 09:35 PM   #170
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In order for one to be homegrown, he can't make his name any other place except WWE.

Punk already made a name for himself in ROH and to a lesser extent in IWA-MS.
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Old 01-31-2007, 09:35 PM   #171
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Because the average wrewstling fan has heard of that comapny and all.
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Old 01-31-2007, 09:36 PM   #172
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But see UPW was somewhat of a WWE partner back then.
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Old 01-31-2007, 09:37 PM   #173
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Old 01-31-2007, 09:37 PM   #174
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I concede then.
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Old 01-31-2007, 09:39 PM   #175
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Because the average wrewstling fan has heard of that comapny and all.
We're not talking about fans.

WWE has always been known to prefer pushing guys that they essentially created.

They didn't create CM Punk's character.

They created guys like Cena, Batista, Triple H, etc.
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Old 01-31-2007, 09:45 PM   #176
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Punk shouldn't have gotten a bigger pop then DX
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Old 01-31-2007, 09:58 PM   #177
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John Cena was huge in UPW, so he clearly is UPW home grown talent.
Did WWE create punks image like the babyface wigger?
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Old 01-31-2007, 11:10 PM   #178
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Triple H is probably conspiring against him in some way
I think it's finlay, I remember his name coming up in a Punk related post. Remember triple h putting Punk over before survivor series?
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Old 02-01-2007, 12:16 AM   #179
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Everyone seems to be forgetting that making out with his girlfriend wasn't the only thing he did.

Arn Anderson did attempt to give him advice and he shrugged him off. Thinking you're better than listening to a wrestling legend seems quite arrogant to me.
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Old 02-01-2007, 12:44 AM   #180
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Everyone seems to be forgetting that making out with his girlfriend wasn't the only thing he did.
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Old 02-01-2007, 01:35 AM   #181
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Everyone seems to be forgetting that making out with his girlfriend wasn't the only thing he did.

Arn Anderson did attempt to give him advice and he shrugged him off. Thinking you're better than listening to a wrestling legend seems quite arrogant to me.
Did he? Well, Mr. Punk, that wasn't wise...
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Old 02-01-2007, 03:15 AM   #182
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And Punk jobs to Matt Striker via a roll up with the ropes. We are witnessing the Tazz-in-i-zation of Mr. Punk.
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Old 02-01-2007, 08:48 AM   #183
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Arn Anderson did attempt to give him advice and he shrugged him off. Thinking you're better than listening to a wrestling legend seems quite arrogant to me.
Well what kind of a "shrug off" was it?

Once again overreaction can come into play.

Punk could've stood there and listened to him went "Okay" and walked away. Arn could take that as "Oh he didn't appreciate what I was saying." I mean like it's been said before, no one here knows to what extent things went down. WWE could be holding Punk under a microscope so everything he does or says could be blown out of proportion.

I mean would you really be surprised if WWE did that?
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Old 02-01-2007, 09:53 AM   #184
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Well what kind of a "shrug off" was it?

Once again overreaction can come into play.

Punk could've stood there and listened to him went "Okay" and walked away. Arn could take that as "Oh he didn't appreciate what I was saying." I mean like it's been said before, no one here knows to what extent things went down. WWE could be holding Punk under a microscope so everything he does or says could be blown out of proportion.

I mean would you really be surprised if WWE did that?
About as surprised as I would be if Punk was found fucking a headless corpse in the ass, and his fanbase urged me to give him the "benefit of the doubt."
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Old 02-01-2007, 09:54 AM   #185
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About as surprised as I would be if Punk was found fucking a headless corpse in the ass, and his fanbase urged me to give him the "benefit of the doubt."
"He was so awesome that she died from orgasm! And the head just seemed to pop off."
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Old 02-01-2007, 10:34 AM   #186
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OMG. That was awesome.
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Old 02-01-2007, 11:45 AM   #187
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I still say relax about CM Punk. Yes its more fuel on the fire but I watched it and was suprised, but it didn't seem to bad. It was clearly a cheap victory and CM Punk will pick up a beatdown on him soon.

Didn't Jericho lose cleanly to Chyna? That didn't kill any heat. There's plenty of examples of guys with heat early in their time with WWE who have LOST AN OCCASIONAL MATCH and still been fine. If he's as popular and entertaining as you all maintain, he will be fine.

Now if hes squashed thats another thing....but it hasn't happened, yet.
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Old 02-01-2007, 11:46 AM   #188
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Oh and btw, if Punk wants to really get over, he needs to pick up a microphone and let the world know who he is.
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"He is straight-edge, he is all about competition, he is C...M...Punk."

I think he's about as established on the mic has WWE wants him to be.
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Old 02-01-2007, 12:01 PM   #191
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I think hes just about as over as he ever will be, this guy would be a solid IC champion, but get ready for dissapointment if you think this guys gonna break into the main event. I like him, I'm just saying.
And as for the people who've said they see him as "a mainstream star", well I don't even wanna begin with that but, no. Not happening. Whats mainstream about a straight edge guy who looks like he should be operating the tilt a whirl.

I hope CM Punk continues to get over and makes a name for himself on the midcard, but I can't see this guy getting anymore over than Xpac or Road Dogg circa 1999 (not an insult, they were phenomenal back then), unless he goes through some drastic changes or Vince takes a shine to him.
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I still say relax about CM Punk. Yes its more fuel on the fire but I watched it and was suprised, but it didn't seem to bad. It was clearly a cheap victory and CM Punk will pick up a beatdown on him soon.

Didn't Jericho lose cleanly to Chyna? That didn't kill any heat. There's plenty of examples of guys with heat early in their time with WWE who have LOST AN OCCASIONAL MATCH and still been fine. If he's as popular and entertaining as you all maintain, he will be fine.

Now if hes squashed thats another thing....but it hasn't happened, yet.
Oh, it's still too early, but at least now they have something that actually constitutes the crying. You know, a pattern. And it's still not really much, but it's more than nothing, and nothing's what they had going for them prior.
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It's because they know he's not going to win the title at Wrestlemania and dominate for 2 years like they all want. So since the inevitable dissapointment is on its way, why not blame WWE for "intentionally preventing" it.
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Actually, I sometimes wonder if wrestling fans tend to bank on these guys so they'll have a reason to bitch. I mean, I don't know why anyone would actually be delusional enough to think Punk is going anywhere, pop or no pop.

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It's because they know he's not going to unify the titles at Wrestlemania and dominate for 25 years like they all want. So since the inevitable dissapointment is on its way, why not blame WWE for "intentionally preventing" it.


Though I agree with your unrealistic expectations. But seriously.
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I think hes just about as over as he ever will be, this guy would be a solid IC champion, but get ready for dissapointment if you think this guys gonna break into the main event. I like him, I'm just saying.
And as for the people who've said they see him as "a mainstream star", well I don't even wanna begin with that but, no. Not happening. Whats mainstream about a straight edge guy who looks like he should be operating the tilt a whirl.

I hope CM Punk continues to get over and makes a name for himself on the midcard, but I can't see this guy getting anymore over than Xpac or Road Dogg circa 1999 (not an insult, they were phenomenal back then), unless he goes through some drastic changes or Vince takes a shine to him.
Exactly, while he is very talented, he is not the kind of guy that the WWE pushes to the top. He does not have the look that they want, it is not fair but thats the way it is.
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He has the potential that Xpac and Road Dogg had in late 1998, sorry if that rubs some Punk marks the wrong way. I don't mean it as an insult to punk, he's just not the type of star who will go the distance. He is over with the crowd, and may get more over (just like them) but thats about it.
Survivor Series honestly doesn't impress me. Its a chant.
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