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Old 03-26-2007, 09:45 PM   #161
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Cool, the first two hours of the HOF will be on WWE.com.... I can download the final hour the next day... all is right with the world.
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As long as theirs a guy making a livng on the back of a gimmick stealing that is shitty. Once that guy is out, then who does it hurt, no one. But as long as their is the origionater out their trying to put this over, and make it associated with him, trying to make money off of it, then yeah. It's uncreative and pathetic.

If an artist paints a picture, and is trying to sell, then artist B comes along and traces it and then sells it on a larger medium, it's shitty. Make on your own talents and ideas, not some one elses.

Love the Punker though. He's about the only thing left in mainstreamwrestling that makes me take notice.
Tell me how is Punk/KENTA different than anyone else out there?

Jake Roberts started using the DDT, then everyone else started using it while Jake was still wrestling. It didn't diminish Jake using it, people still went crazy for him using the DDT.

I can make other examples with the figure-four and the piledriver.

And besides how many casual fans ever heard of KENTA? How many of them will ever hear of him? Slim to none.

If Punk doesn't use the GO2SLEEP then someone else will start using it. And it would probably be someone like Funaki or Torrie Wilson. At least Punk is over and gets airtime, he gets to showcase that move on a larger scale where KENTA couldn't.

It's not like KENTA is going to lose work because Punk is using his finisher.
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I did notice that the receding Masters didn't seem quite so receding last week on Raw. Same with Chavo about a year ago.
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Old 03-26-2007, 09:50 PM   #169
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Interview time with John Cena. Chicago still thinks he sucks. Eh, what do they know? Cena makes fun of everybody and everything at WrestleMania. This guy's awesome. He plugs the match with Shawn and predicts Maria's future. Well she ain't staying pretty forever.
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CM Punk is awesome. Great wrestler, great talker. He didn't steal the move. No more than anything in wrestling is stolen. It's not like it's even a distinctive move. It's a fireman's carry into a kick. Whoopy-nah-nah. It's like "stealing" the F-U. Or a suplex.

It would be more homage than anything, and even then, Punk may not have been the one to choose to start using the move. I can very easily see the "producers" telling him to do it, because he has the whole martial arts gimmick going on.
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Interview time with John Cena. Chicago still thinks he sucks. Eh, what do they know?
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They should so turn John Cena heel at WrestleMania. Anything else, to quote an infamous poster here, would be UNACCEPTABLE.
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CM Punk is awesome. Great wrestler, great talker. He didn't steal the move. No more than anything in wrestling is stolen.
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Interview time with John Cena. Chicago still thinks he sucks. Eh, what do they know? Cena makes fun of everybody and everything at WrestleMania. This guy's awesome. He plugs the match with Shawn and predicts Maria's future. Well she ain't staying pretty forever.
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Part of me hopes they go prima donna with John Cena, and have him not show up at all for the tag team match. Have Shawn Michaels go at it solo, before succumming to the Batista Bomb, as we get a Dave and Taker stare-down.

Cena then appears at WrestleMania and said he lost track of time because he was too busy preparing mentally for his WrestleMania match.
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Tell me how is Punk/KENTA different than anyone else out there?

Jake Roberts started using the DDT, then everyone else started using it while Jake was still wrestling. It didn't diminish Jake using it, people still went crazy for him using the DDT.

I can make other examples with the figure-four and the piledriver.

And besides how many casual fans ever heard of KENTA? How many of them will ever hear of him? Slim to none.

If Punk doesn't use the GO2SLEEP then someone else will start using it. And it would probably be someone like Funaki. At least Punk is over and gets airtime, he gets to showcase that move on a larger scale where KENTA couldn't.

It's not like KENTA is going to lose work because Punk is using his finisher.
And there is my argument. When they see KENTA using that move in some rare jap tape their cousin bootlegged for them they will say "hey stole Punks move." And yes it can hurt KENTA. Lets say KENTA wants to come to America. And wow, the WWE actually wants him. What happens when he comes in? Now you could some fairy tale feud of him being pissed about the disgrace, but that's not realistic. What would happen is they make him stop using his combo and finish for something else. Once more he's less likely to ever get considered because "they already have one of those."

This likely wouldn't be such an issue if he wasn't stealing so much from ONE guy. A thing here, and a thing there. Cool. Pillaging his move set? Shitty. As an independent contractor I know I have to offer something unique to get work. If some goes around doing the same things as I do, on larger mediums, this will effectivly STOP me from getting work anywhere. People wont pay to see some guy do the things they saw Tuesday. KENTA is just lucky he was previously established in the states before this happened.

You do understand the nessecity to be unique in this buiness right? I know how I feel when people take my spots, as I can tell you wouldn't understand, but I work hard to offer something an audience hasn't seen beofre. And when I see guys taking everything I've worked so hard to perfect and get over, they might as well be dipping their hands into my wallet. There's not much of a difference. Does this happen all the time? Yeah, but so does rape and I don't stand for that either.
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Seriously, just to show how much London & Kendrick add to the WWE for me, if they're not added to the WrestleMania card, I won't be ordering.
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Old 03-26-2007, 10:01 PM   #191
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boy this is making me realize this match will suck
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wtf...Lashley kicked out.
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Old 03-26-2007, 10:01 PM   #193
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Old 03-26-2007, 10:01 PM   #194
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And there is my argument. When they see KENTA using that move in some rare jap tape their cousin bootlegged for them they will say "hey stole Punks move." And yes it can hurt KENTA. Lets say KENTA wants to come to America. And wow, the WWE actually wants him. What happens when he comes in? Now you could some fairy tale feud of him being pissed about the disgrace, but that's not realistic. What would happen is they make him stop using his combo and finish for something else. Once more he's less likely to ever get considered because "they already have one of those."

This likely wouldn't be such an issue if he wasn't stealing so much from ONE guy. A thing here, and a thing there. Cool. Pillaging his move set? Shitty. As an independent contractor I know I have to offer something unique to get work. If some goes around doing the same things as I do, on larger mediums, this will effectivly STOP me from getting work anywhere. People wont pay to see some guy do the things they saw Tuesday. KENTA is just lucky he was previously established in the states before this happened.

You do understand the nessecity to be unique in this buiness right? I know how I feel when people take my spots, as I can tell you wouldn't understand, but I work hard to offer something an audience hasn't seen beofre. And when I see guys taking everything I've worked so hard to perfect and get over, they might as well be dipping their hands into my wallet. There's not much of a difference. Does this happen all the time? Yeah, but so does rape and I don't stand for that either.

How many casual fans take time to get bootlegs from Japan?

Only the IWC do stuff like that.

Unless KENTA comes into WWE, then that is a non-issue.

Wrestlers have to use other people's moves or they have to kill themselves trying to come up with something unique and different.

Look at Stone Cold, he uses the Stone Cold Stunner which is a variation of the Ace Crusher. Does that make him a bad wrestler?
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Old 03-26-2007, 10:02 PM   #195
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I thought I saw Lashley kick out....
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Why wouldnt they wait to pin him till afterall of this?
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Why do I get the feeling that WrestleMania is going to be shit?
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Old 03-26-2007, 10:03 PM   #199
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No DQ: Bobby Lashley vs. Vince McMahon: Lillian's looking taxable tonight. I mean, come on, clothes like that have got to cost a pretty penny. The Lesnar pyro for Lashley is totally unnecessary along with that bouncing. Vince goes for the mic and blabs. Lashley shows he's capable of being a stupid babyface by just listening to him. Cade and Murdoch try a run in but get obliterated. Chris Masters tries his luck but can't get the Masterlock. Lashley makes him pay. Johnny Nitro gets launched and powerslammed. McMahon brings out the big guns with Umaga. Slugfest burns some time and that allows Vince to go for a cheap shot. Toss-Up Samoan Drop allows Vince to get the pin. Yeah, four guys couldn't do it but one simple move is enough to let a 61-year old man get the pin on their next hot new face. Beat down commences. Would it have been so wrong for Lashley to get the win over Vince? Match rating: NO STARS, BIYATCH
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Why do I get the feeling that WrestleMania is going to be shit?
...cause it's gonna
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