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Old 07-29-2009, 06:34 PM   #161
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Was it entertaining? No

Was it stupid? yes

Was it a HOLY crap/WTF moment? YES,it actually live up to the subject title unlike 90% of most wrestling posts.

Would it make it better if it was in a WWE ring? You answer this question
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Old 07-29-2009, 07:15 PM   #162
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Why would it make it better?
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Old 07-29-2009, 07:18 PM   #163
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Actually, it would make it worse, because I would lose even more respect for the WWE.
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Old 07-29-2009, 07:25 PM   #164
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I'm not sure what the point of it being in a WWE ring would be and how that would make it better or worse. It's a terrible spot (if we can even call it that) and it shouldn't be done in front of 5 people or 50,000 people.
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Old 07-29-2009, 07:36 PM   #165
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Old 07-30-2009, 09:12 AM   #166
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[QUOTE=USAUSA1;2651485]Was it entertaining? No

Was it stupid? Yes

Was it a HOLY crap/WTF moment? Yes, but so would eating a kitten or volleying a baby. Whilst it's not quite on the same level, it's still a 'WTF' moment for the wrong reasons.

Would it make it better if it was in a WWE ring? No, not at all. I understand what you're trying to say, but I think needle jaw-breakers, cinder blocks and scissor stabs would have the same effect in any ring. If anything it'd be worse in a WWE ring.

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Old 07-30-2009, 09:13 AM   #167
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Old 07-30-2009, 09:14 AM   #168
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i'd love to see it in a wwe ring
watch all the kiddies at ringside crying
and watching all the marks puking up

admit it, it would be quite funny
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Old 07-30-2009, 09:14 AM   #169
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Would it make it better if it was in a WWE ring? You answer this question
It's not that we don't like it because it's not WWE, we don't like it because it's disgusting.
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Old 07-30-2009, 02:50 PM   #170
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i'd love to see it in a wwe ring
watch all the kiddies at ringside crying
and watching all the marks puking up

admit it, it would be quite funny
Can I ask a question.

What attracts you to this shit? Seriously, what part of any of these snuff video's makes you mark out and want to see more?
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Old 07-30-2009, 02:53 PM   #171
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I really hate deathmatches and all that crap..
It's not fun to watch.
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Old 07-30-2009, 02:58 PM   #172
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Old 07-30-2009, 03:06 PM   #173
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Old 07-30-2009, 03:36 PM   #174
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You know, watching Botchamania, I realized that the stupid, retarded, pointless, unneccessary weapon shots are the SAFEST things these guys are doing to each other.
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Old 07-30-2009, 04:40 PM   #175
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I really could care less either way, am not a wrestler and I don't take wrestling seriously.

Deathmatches can be extremely fun when done right, Big Japan in recent years put on some great deathmatches. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfixXEC-6wo Sasaki (c) vs Miyamoto Scaffolding Death Match is still one of the best top 20 matches I've seen this decade.
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Old 07-30-2009, 04:41 PM   #176
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its actually safer that actual wrestling i mean it takes a matter of days for a scar to heal, but a broken bone or torn muscle takes months maybe years if it heals at all.

now who is the sadist eh?


pain is temporary
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Old 07-30-2009, 04:44 PM   #177
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Old 07-30-2009, 04:46 PM   #178
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Old 07-30-2009, 04:47 PM   #179
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its actually safer that actual wrestling i mean it takes a matter of days for a scar to heal, but a broken bone or torn muscle takes months maybe years if it heals at all.

now who is the sadist eh?


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I think you missed the point. Weapon shots are safer with these guys because they're creating very dangerous moves and executing them with very little skill or care.

I have no problem with your opinion. You can like this form of entertainment all you want, but I'm still curious why you like it.
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Old 07-30-2009, 04:52 PM   #180
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I think you missed the point. Weapon shots are safer with these guys because they're creating very dangerous moves and executing them with very little skill or care.

I have no problem with your opinion. You can like this form of entertainment all you want, but I'm still curious why you like it.
please, most of them have better wrestling training than many of the wwe 'superstars'

its the same reason people like jackass, morbid fascination
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Old 07-30-2009, 04:54 PM   #181
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I think that a show like this is like watching a retard try to hump a doorknob.
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Old 07-30-2009, 05:07 PM   #182
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please, most of them have better wrestling training than many of the wwe 'superstars'
I'm not saying they aren't trained, but to suggest that they are better trained than WWE talent is just ignorant. Just because Cena or Batista don't chain wrestle on tv doesn't mean they can't. The best example of this is Burchill. The guy is super-talented, is technical and can fly - but because he doesn't when he's on ECW people assume that he's hopeless.

Take a look at OVW if you need an example of how anyone who has been nurtured by the WWE is more than competent in their field. It's clearly obvious that these guys are good at what they do, it's one of the reasons they're at the top of the business and wrestling infront 5,000 people and not 50.

Yes, some of the guys go onto better things and can make a career out of it. But it's just logical to assume that they aren't as skilled as someone in the WWE who's life, and not just career, is about pro-wrestling.
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its the same reason people like jackass, morbid fascination
The two aren't comparable. The only Jackass here is the one trying to draw the parallels.
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Old 07-30-2009, 05:11 PM   #183
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the reason john cena and batista are main eventers in the wwe is because they have big muscles, a character and basic wrestling knowledge.

its the same reason why the great khali is in the wwe, he is only there because he is really tall and has basic wrestling knowledge
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Old 07-30-2009, 05:14 PM   #184
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I cannot argue with you about Khali, and yes, Cena and Batista are at the top of the WWE because of their size and maybe even politics, but have you even watched Cena when he was 'the Prototype' in OVW? I think you should do some research of your own before you make such judgements.
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Old 07-30-2009, 05:19 PM   #185
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You cannot talk to Kareru and expect it to understand it at the level of a normal human.

You have to speak slowly and in small words to a subhuman like it.
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You have to speak slowly and in small words to a subhuman like it.
quiet you, if i wanted a retards opinion i would pick a smarter one than you
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Old 07-30-2009, 05:25 PM   #187
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I cannot argue with you about Khali, and yes, Cena and Batista are at the top of the WWE because of their size and maybe even politics, but have you even watched Cena when he was 'the Prototype' in OVW? I think you should do some research of your own before you make such judgements.
you're right i never saw him on ovw, so if he can wrestle then why doesn't he?
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Old 07-30-2009, 05:32 PM   #188
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you're right i never saw him on ovw, so if he can wrestle then why doesn't he?
I don't know - that's just the way it is. The WWE has always been more about the entertainment than the wrestling. Cena chain wrestling for twenty minutes with HHH isn't going to win over casual fans (that's what we have ROH for) but a bunch of spots, an Attitude Adjuster and yelling "You can't see me" to the crowd is.

I thought even you could see that.
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Old 07-30-2009, 06:16 PM   #189
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the reason john cena and batista are main eventers in the wwe is because they have big muscles, a character and basic wrestling knowledge.

its the same reason why the great khali is in the wwe, he is only there because he is really tall and has basic wrestling knowledge
sadly, that "basic wrestling knowledge" is lightyears ahead of these idiots.
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you're right i never saw him on ovw, so if he can wrestle then why doesn't he?
I have a hard time listening to you bash any WWE talent, even Cena when you blindly defend spotfest wrestling. You obviously know little to nothing about what actual wrestling involves and what makes it entertaining. Shit like this is whats bad for the wrestling business, and personally I think the business would be better with out it at all and it's "wrestling" fans.

It's why CZW has been in business for almost 10 years and still is lucky to draw a crowd of 500 on a good night.

CZW and it's fans are a joke.
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I hate it too man. One of the reasons being that I take the position of defending John Cena and the use of John Cena on television, and no man should be forced to have to do that.
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If he wanted a retard's opinion, wouldn't it be best to pick the opinions of the dumbest one?

Myself, I'm looking for a genius' opinion but I would pick a stupider one than Stephen Hawking
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Well good thing Kareru's here, you could pick his brain.
I wouldn't so much as pick his brain as I would douse it in petrol and strike a match next to it.
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Old 07-30-2009, 08:45 PM   #196
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And AND, hear me out here, put it on a DVD and send it into Ian Rotten as an audition tape for the IWA.

You could be Chavo "Chainsaw Charlie" Classic the third.
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Old 07-31-2009, 10:51 AM   #197
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If he wanted a retard's opinion, wouldn't it be best to pick the opinions of the dumbest one?

Myself, I'm looking for a genius' opinion but I would pick a stupider one than Stephen Hawking
if you want a retards opinion you pick a dumb one, not the dumbest one, you at least need a coherent answer
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Old 07-31-2009, 10:55 AM   #198
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also, do you guys think that czw and deathmatch wrestlers only wrestle deathmatches?
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Old 07-31-2009, 10:57 AM   #199
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You can't call that shit wrestling. So, we should come up with an appropriate name for it. How about shitfest?

And, as far as CZW and Deathmatch guys only doing deathmatches? It depends on the person, if they have some talent, they might be able to put on a wrestling match, but, if they're like most of the CZW roster, they stick to shitfests.

I'm pretty sure that you're Sadistic. Welcome back.
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Old 07-31-2009, 11:05 AM   #200
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You can't call that shit wrestling. So, we should come up with an appropriate name for it. How about shitfest?

And, as far as CZW and Deathmatch guys only doing deathmatches? It depends on the person, if they have some talent, they might be able to put on a wrestling match, but, if they're like most of the CZW roster, they stick to shitfests.

I'm pretty sure that you're Sadistic. Welcome back.
im a little bit sadistic

czw have TOD and COD and they are annual events so they dont do death matches ALL the time

they also do

Best of the Best tournament which emphasizes athleticism and many wrestler which are know for deathmatches get to show that they can actually wrestle
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