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Old 10-30-2009, 03:28 PM   #161
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If Hogan is wrestling, Hogan will be champ. He got a nostalgia run in the WWE, but for the most part they kept him away from the title because they had hotter stars that the fans were paying to see. Does TNA have better talent than Hogan? No doubt. Would Hogan holding the belt outdraw A.J. holding the belt? Probably. That's what it comes down to.

I'm not saying give Hogan the keys to the kingdom. But if he proves to be a bigger draw, he can use that to make other guys bigger draws. Put the title and the spotlight on him and the spotlight will be on everyone else as well.
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Old 10-30-2009, 04:51 PM   #162
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Why is everone saying eric bischoff is such a great idea guy?

alright, he created the nwo. What did he do after that?

He created 3 more nwo's.

How original.
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Old 10-30-2009, 05:02 PM   #163
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Why is everone saying eric bischoff is such a great idea guy?

alright, he created the nwo. What did he do after that?

He created 3 more nwo's.

How original.
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Old 10-30-2009, 05:24 PM   #164
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i would give him the legends belt you can let him fued with nash or foley for it, that would give him a belt an the young guys can fight for the tna belt.
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Old 10-30-2009, 05:28 PM   #165
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He created nWo, and happened apon Goldberg, what else did he do? He doesn't have the best track record.
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Old 10-30-2009, 05:32 PM   #166
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He created nWo, and happened apon Goldberg, what else did he do? He doesn't have the best track record.
i'd say beating the wwf in the ratings war for over two years straight is a good track record, and again history is repeating itself

wwf- aimed at children
wcw - underdog needing a boost
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I think Bischoff's stint as Raw GM is an indication of how the casual fan views his role in WCW. Was that an accurate view? No. But does it show he had the potential to generates sales? Yes.

Working for the WWE was a completely different scenario than TNA though. There you had Bisch, long portrayed as the man that nearly killed the company, actually in a position of power on Raw. In TNA he's got to sink or swim on his own merit. There's no WCW v. WWF story for him to be relevant. It's just "Here's Eric Bischoff. I did these things in WCW, these things in WWE, and now I'm here." Will that generate sales? Remains to be seen.
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If Hogan is wrestling, Hogan will be champ. He got a nostalgia run in the WWE, but for the most part they kept him away from the title because they had hotter stars that the fans were paying to see. Does TNA have better talent than Hogan? No doubt. Would Hogan holding the belt outdraw A.J. holding the belt? Probably. That's what it comes down to.

I'm not saying give Hogan the keys to the kingdom. But if he proves to be a bigger draw, he can use that to make other guys bigger draws. Put the title and the spotlight on him and the spotlight will be on everyone else as well.
If Hogan is wrestling, I think he would best give the rub to some guys via the tag team division. Bring in Ric Flair for one PPV match against Hogan, which could draw, and could be marketed as two of the best ever, admittedly past their prime, finding out once and for all who is the best. Hogan wins that match after an Axe Bomber followed by the Leg Drop, but Flair low blows Hogan after the match, and puts him in the Figure Four.

That is strictly for money. No real stars are created directly through Hogan, but hopefully the buys and ratings are up, so a lot more people see, say, AJ Styles vs. Kurt Angle for the TNA World Title.

Then have Hogan move into a program with Eric Young over the TNA Global Championship. Have their PPV end in disqualification when World Elite beats down Hogan, and Young tries to drive him out of the company. So technically Hogan is 2-0 on PPV. Eric Young is screaming in Hogan's face about how TNA is his company, or something, but then Matt Morgan appears on the scene and cleans house on the heels, and saves Hogan's ass.

At Hogan's third PPV, have Hulk Hogan & Matt Morgan team up to challenge The British Invasion for the TNA World Tag Team Championship. Hogan plays the face-in-peril, as The British Invasion tear Hogan up, as the "weak link" in the team. Hogan eventually tags in Morgan, however, who cleans house, and gets the pin for his team -- allowing Hogan to win his first championship in TNA.

By teaming with Morgan, Hogan can make him look like a million bucks. Hogan has only held one Tag Team Championship in his career, and that was with Edge. Holding one with Matt Morgan could be put over as a really big deal. It also allows Hogan to wear gold, while not exactly running roughshed over the entire TNA roster. He wins because Morgan wins. And eventually, you can have Morgan do what Hogan could never do, and pin Eric Young to become the TNA Global Champion, which gives him his first TNA singles title win, and can help him build up his resume as he is prepared for the main event.
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Old 10-31-2009, 02:31 PM   #169
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That's not a bad scenario at all, but why would it be better than Hogan being World Champ? Judging by the ratings of a show Hogan wasn't even on, people are tuning in for the Hulkster. They want to see the 24" pythons running wild in the Impact Zone. Now that they have everyone's attention give the belt to Hogan. It worked for so many years in WCW and it will work now. The reason it stopped working in WCW is because it got old, so I'm not saying do it forever. But as a short-term program it will garner interest.
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You are correct, it would garner interest. I think TNA has a chance to turn around critics with this move, too, though. The casual fans may come for a little bit, but then it is up to the rest of the product to keep the viewers watching. If the product is headed up by an old guy without a hip, then it becomes harder to really root for them. The smark audience, which may not be huge, but is probably one TNA could really use on their side, because of loyalty, may find it very hard to get into a program that has Hogan as the World Champion.

And I think seeing Hogan as World Champion today might even be a bit hard for some casual fans to swallow. It is only anecdotal evidence, but my dad, who could probably be considered a casual fan who knows it is staged, could just not get into Ric Flair in the later parts of Flair's career. He loved Flair outside the ring, with his suits and his Rolexes, but when he got in the ring, my dad just could not buy him doing anything.

I think Hogan running wild over TNA would be believable and marketable to the most basic fans, but I think they are the ones the WWE is trying to attract at the moment. Is it wise for TNA to play the WWE's game? Shouldn't they be going for an older, more complete audience?
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Old 11-01-2009, 12:58 PM   #171
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I think older fans are the ones flipping over to see Hogan in the first place. It makes more sense to assume that a large bump was caused by droves of fans who are at least semi-familiar with Hogan's career rather than a bunch of 8-year-olds who have only seen him on American Gladiators.

As far as smark loyalty, smarks have pretty much proven they will watch wrestling through anything. TNA could make David Arquette, jr. the champion and smarks would watch, if for no other reason than to bitch about how much better ROH is. What TNA needs is actual numbers.
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I think older fans are the ones flipping over to see Hogan in the first place. It makes more sense to assume that a large bump was caused by droves of fans who are at least semi-familiar with Hogan's career rather than a bunch of 8-year-olds who have only seen him on American Gladiators.

As far as smark loyalty, smarks have pretty much proven they will watch wrestling through anything. TNA could make David Arquette, jr. the champion and smarks would watch, if for no other reason than to bitch about how much better ROH is. What TNA needs is actual numbers.
I agree, to a point. I think them taking the same approach as the WWE to things, though, is going to limit their success.
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