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Old 12-09-2005, 03:46 AM   #1
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And, since we're on the topic of disgruntled players, the latest reports have Terrell Owens dumping agent Drew Rosenhaus. Owens would be the second marquee player to fire Rosenhaus in a week. Javon Walker, who threatened a holdout before reporting to the Packers, dismissed the outspoken agent last week.
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Marion Barber III is the man, no doubting it.

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CAP COULD MOVE TO $95 MILLION

Early word is that the official cap number for 2006 will land somewhere between $92 million and $95 million per team, up from $85 million this year and higher than the previously anticipated range of $89 million to $90 million.

Even at $95 million, several teams need to trim more than $20 million in 2006 payroll. The Jets and Raiders each exceed $120 million, and the Broncos have more than $118 million committed to next season.

The Chiefs are at $114 million, and the Redskins are at $112 million.

Despite a serious purge in 2005, the Titans are at $102 million.

The Falcons are a hair under $102 million, and the Bucs are at $100 million.

The other teams currently north of the anticipated spending limit are the Fins ($97 million) and the Steelers ($96 million).

At the other end of the spectrum, the Browns are at only $61 million and the Cardinals are at $62 million. The Vikings are at $68 million, giving them yet another offseason with more than $20 million on hand in an effort to upgrade the roster.

The Packers are $70 million and the Bengals are at $71 million.

At $71 million, the Seahawks have plenty of room to sign running back Shaun Alexander, if they so choose.

The Chargers also are at $71 million, which means they can keep both Drew Brees and Philip Rivers, if they so choose.

The Niners are at $74 million, and the Bears and Jags are at $75 million.

The folks within $20 million of the expected cap are as follows: Rams ($76 million); Ravens ($77 million); Texans ($78 million); Saints ($82 million); Bills ($82 million); Lions ($83 million); Eagles ($85 million); Giants ($89 million); Cowboys ($90 million); Pats ($92 million); Colts ($92 million); and Panthers ($93 million).
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AFC East

New England: WR David Givens; G Stephen Neal; OT Tom Ashworth; WR Tim Dwight; WR Troy Brown; QB Doug Flutie; FB Heath Evans; RB Mike Cloud; WR Andre' Davis; TE Christian Fauria; S Michael Stone; LB Matt Chatham; CB Hank Poteat; LB Don Davis; K Adam Vinatieri; CB Chad Scott; WR Cedric James.

Miami: C Seth McKinney; FB Sammy Morris; OL Stocker McDougle; OL Alonzo Ephraim (RFA); QB Sage Rosenfels; WR Bryan Gilmore; RB Travis Minor; S Lance Schulters; LB Jason Glenn; S Yeremiah Bell (RFA); LB Nick Rogers; CB Kiwaukee Thomas; WR David Boston; WR Kendall Newson.

Buffalo: C Trey Teague; WR Sam Aiken (RFA); QB Shane Matthews; LB Angelo Crowell (RFA); CB Nate Clements; DE Ryan Denney; DT Justin Bannan; LB Mario Haggan (RFA); LB Josh Stamer (RFA); LS Mike Schneck; CB Kevin Thomas; DT Ron Edwards.

New York Jets: G Jonathan Goodwin; OT Scott Gragg; QB Vinny Testaverde; QB Kliff Kingsbury (RFA); DT James Reed; DE John Abraham; LB Kenyatta Wright; TE Chris Baker.

AFC North

Pittsburgh: WR Antwaan Randle El; QB Charlie Batch; WR Quincy Morgan; OT Barrett Brooks; TE Jerame Tuman; WR Sean Morey; RB Verron Haynes; DE Kimo von Oelhoffen; CB Ike Taylor (RFA); S Chris Hope; CB DeShea Townsend; LB Brett Keisel; LB Clint Kriewaldt.

Cleveland: WR Antonio Bryant; OT L.J. Shelton; C Mike Pucillo; TE Aaron Shea; DE Orpheus Roye; LB Andra Davis; LB Ben Taylor; CB Leigh Bodden (RFA); DT Ethan Kelley (RFA); LB Orlando Ruff; CB Ray Mickens; P Kyle Richardson; S Antwan Harris.

Cincinnati: FB Jeremi Johnson (RFA); WR Kevin Walter (RFA); G Scott Kooistra (RFA); TE Matt Schobel; QB Jon Kitna; FB Nick Luchey; WR Kelley Washington (RFA); TE Tony Stewart; S Ifeanyi Ohalete; DE Carl Powell; LB Marcus Wilkins; S Anthony Mitchell; CB Reggie Myles; CB Rashad Bauman; LB Hannibal Navies; RB Kenny Watson; LB Nate Webster.

Baltimore: RB Jamal Lewis; WR Patrick Johnson; TE Randy Hymes; OT Tony Pashos (RFA); TE Darnell Dinkins;QB Anthony Wright; RB Ovie Mughelli (RFA); RB Chester Taylor; TE Daniel Wilcox (RFA); RB Musa Smith (RFA); TE Terry Jones; DE Anthony Weaver; DT Ma'ake Kemoeatu; LB Tommy Polley; LB Bart Scott; S Chad Williams; S Will Demps; DE Jarret Johnson (RFA); DT Aubrayo Franklin (RFA); CB Dale Carter; CB Deion Sanders; P Dave Zastudil; K Aaron Elling (RFA).

AFC South

Indianapolis: WR Reggie Wayne; FB James Mungro; RB Edgerrin James; WR Troy Walters; WR Aaron Moorehead (RFA); DE Raheem Brock; LB David Thornton; LB Gary Brackett (RFA); LB Cato June (RFA); DT Larry Tripplett; DE Robert Mathis (RFA); LB Rob Morris; S Joseph Jefferson; S Gerome Sapp (RFA); LB Keith O'Neil (RFA); K Mike Vanderjagt; OT Makoa Freitas (RFA); LB Rocky Calmus; WR Brad Pyatt (RFA).

Jacksonville: G Vince Manuwai (RFA); OT Mike Pearson; C Dennis Norman; OT Ephraim Salaam; TE George Wrighster (RFA); WR Cortez Hankton (RFA); RB LaBrandon Toefield (RFA); LB Akin Ayodele; S Deke Cooper; CB Kenny Wright; DE Marcellus Wiley; DT Rob Meier; LB Tracy White (RFA); LB Tony Gilbert (RFA); CB Terry Cousin; LB Jamie Winborn.

Houston: WR Corey Bradford; WR Jabar Gaffney; WR Derick Armstrong (RFA); OT Seth Wand (RFA); G Fred Weary; G Milford Brown; OT Victor Riley; TE Matt Murphy; RB Jonathan Wells; QB Dave Ragone (RFA); LB Shantee Orr (RFA); LB Dashon Polk; LB Antwan Peek (RFA); LB Frank Chamberlin; LB Troy Evans; CB Jason Bell; S Ramon Walker; LS Bryan Pittman (RFA).

Tennessee: C Justin Hartwig; DE Kyle Vanden Bosch; LB Brad Kassell; S Tank Williams; LB Rocky Boiman; S Donnie Nickey (RFA); CB Tony Beckham; LS Jon Dorenbos (RFA).

AFC West

Denver: WR Charlie Adams (RFA); RB Ron Dayne; DT Monsanto Pope; DT Demtrin Veal (RFA); LB Patrick Chukwurah; LB Keith Burns; S Sam Brandon; DE Marco Coleman; TE/LS Mike Leach.

Oakland: OT Chad Slaughter; G Corey Hulsey; TE Zeron Flemister; RB Omar Easy; WR Randal Williams; LB Grant Irons; S Jarrod Cooper; DT Terdell Sands; DT Edward Jasper; LB DeLawrence Grant; LB Tim Johnson; CB Reynaldo Hill; S Reggie Tongue; CB Charles Woodson; DT Kenny Smith.

Kansas City: WR Chris Horn (RFA); OT Jordan Black (RFA); FB Tony Richardson; WR Marc Boerigter; QB Todd Collins; QB Damon Huard; DT Lional Dalton; DE Jimmy Wilkerson (RFA); DE Carlos Hall; CB DeWayne Washington; TE/LS Kendall Gammon.

San Diego: G Kris Dielman (RFA); QB Drew Brees; WR Reche Caldwell; WR Kassim Osgood (RFA); G Bob Hallen; TE Justin Peelle; FB Andrew Pinnock (RFA); DE DeQuincy Scott; DE Jacques Cesaire (RFA); LB Ben Leber; LB Matt Wilhelm (RFA); LB Stephen Cooper (RFA); CB Jamar Fletcher; S Clinton Hart (RFA); LB Carlos Polk; OT Courtney Van Buren (RFA).

NFC East

Dallas: OT Torrin Tucker (RFA); WR Peerless Price; OT Ethan Brooks; TE Dan Campbell; LB Scott Fujita; S Keith Davis (RFA); LB Scott Shanle (RFA); LB Eric Ogbogu; S Willie Pile (RFA); S Lynn Scott; DT Willie Blade.

Philadelphia: T Jon Runyan; WR Darnerian McCants; RB Lamar Gordon; TE Chad Lewis; RB Reno Mahe (RFA); DE N.D. Kalu; LB Keith Adams; DE Juqua Thomas; LB Zeke Moreno; S Quintin Mikell (RFA); CB Roderick Hood (RFA); K Jose Cortez; P Dirk Johnson (RFA).

Washington: TE Robert Royal; G Ray Brown; TE Brian Kozlowski; RB Rock Cartwright; S Ryan Clark; DT Cedric Killings (RFA); DE Demetric Evans; LB Khary Campbell; LB Warrick Holdman; S Omar Stoutmire; CB Ade Jimoh (RFA); LS Ethan Albright.

New York Giants: WR Tim Carter; WR David Tyree (RFA); OT Bob Whitfield; TE Visanthe Shiancoe (RFA); QB Tim Hasselbeck; WR Willie Ponder (RFA); TE Sean Berton (RFA); RB Chad Morton; DT Kendrick Clancy; LB Nick Greisen; CB Will Allen; DT Kenderick Allen (RFA); CB Frank Walker (RFA).

NFC North

Minnesota: WR Nate Burleson (RFA); C Melvin Fowler; RB Michael Bennett; WR Koren Robinson; G Toniu Fonoti; C Cory Withrow; QB Shaun Hill; RB Moe Williams; LB Keith Newman; LB Sam Cowart; S Corey Chavous; CB Brian Williams; DE Lance Johnstone; CB Ralph Brown; LB Raonall Smith; K Paul Edinger; S Willie Offord.

Chicago: G Terrence Metcalf; OT John St. Clair; C Roberto Garza; TE John Gilmore; QB Jeff Blake; TE Gabe Reid (RFA); LB Hunter Hillenmeyer (RFA); CB Jerry Azumah; LB Marcus Reese (RFA).

Detroit: OT Jeff Backus; G Kyle Kosier; C Brock Gutierrez; G Tyrone Hopson; TE Casey Fitzsimmons (RFA); QB Jeff Garcia; FB Paul Smith; RB Shawn Bryson; WR Troy Edwards; RB Artose Pinner (RFA); DE Cory Redding (RFA); LB Earl Holmes; LB James Davis (RFA); CB Andre' Goodman; S Terrence Holt (RFA); CB R.W. McQuarters; DE Jared DeVries; DE Kalimba Edwards; LB Wali Rainer; S Bracy Walker; S Vernon Fox; LB Nate Wayne; WR Kevin Johnson.

Green Bay: C Mike Flanagan; FB William Henderon; G Grey Ruegamer; OT Kevin Barry; QB Craig Nall; RB Tony Fisher; DE Aaron Kampman; DT Grady Jackson; DE Kenny Peterson (RFA); LB Paris Lenon; K Ryan Longwell; LS Rob Davis; RB Najeh Davenport; RB Ahman Green; S Earl Little.

NFC South

Carolina: C Jeff Mitchell; G Tutan Reyes; RB Ricky Proehl; WR Rod Gardner; OT Todd Fordham; QB Chris Weinke; RB DeShaun Foster; TE Mike Seidman (RFA); LB Will Witherspoon; S Marlon McCree; DT Kindal Moorehead (RFA); DE Kemp Rasmussen; LB Vinny Ciurciu (RFA); CB Dante Wesley; S Idrees Bashir; CB Ricky Manning (RFA); P Jason Baker; S Colin Branch (RFA); OL Matt Hill.

New Orleans: C LeCharles Bentley; G Montrae Holland (RFA); WR Az-Zahir Hakim; TE Zach Hilton (RFA); RB Antowain Smith; TE Lamont Hall; FB Fred McAfee; RB Anthony Thomas; DE Willie Whitehead; DE Darren Howard; LB Sedrick Hodge; LB Ronald McKinnon; CB Fakhir Brown; LB T.J. Slaughter; S Mel Mitchell; LB James Allen; WR Michael Lewis.

Tampa Bay: G Sean Mahan (RFA); QB Chris Simms (RFA); WR Ike Hilliard; WR Edell Shepherd (RFA); OT Todd Steussie; FB Jameel Cook; TE Dave Moore; DT Chris Hovan; S Dexter Jackson; CB Torrie Cox (RFA); CB Juran Bolden; K Matt Bryant.

Atlanta: OT Kevin Shaffer; WR Dez White; C Austin King (RFA); OT Barry Stokes; FB Fred McCrary; WR Jerome Pathon; QB Ty Detmer; S Keion Carpenter; DE Antwan Lake; LB Artie Ulmer; S Ronnie Heard; S Kevin McCadam; S Antuan Edwards; S Omare Lowe; K Todd Peterson; LB Erik Flowers.

NFC West

Arizona: G Reggie Wells (RFA); QB Kurt Warner; FB Obafemi Ayanbadejo; OL Adam Haayer; QB Josh McCown; FB Jarrod Baxter; WR J.J. Moses (RFA); WR Reggie Swinton; TE Teyo Johnson (RFA); FB Harold Morrow; RB James Jackson; DE Ross Kolodziej; DE Antonio Cochran; CB Robert Tate; DE R-Kal Truluck; S Quentin Harris; CB Raymond Walls; OL Ian Allen; OL Billy Conaty; DT Russell Davis; LB Gerald Hayes (RFA); DE Kenny King (RFA); DT Langston Moore (RFA); RB J.R. Redmond.

St. Louis: C Andy McCollum; TE Brandon Manumaleuna; WR Shaun McDonald (RFA); WR Kevin Curtis (RFA); G Tom Nutten; OT Rex Tucker; TE Cameron Cleeland; QB Jamie Martin; RB Arlen Harris (RFA); RB Aveion Cason; RB David Allen (RFA); DT Ryan Pickett; CB DeJuan Groce (RFA); S Adam Archuleta; S Mike Furrey (RFA); DE Tyoka Jackson; DT Damione Lewis; DE Brandon Green (RFA); LB Trev Faulk; CB Corey Ivy; CB Chris Johnson (RFA); CB Terry Fair; P Bryan Barker; FB Chris Massey; TE Roland Williams.

Seattle: WR Joe Jurevicius; G Steve Hutchinson; FB Mack Strong; RB Shaun Alexander; WR Peter Warrick; OT Wayne Hunter (RFA); TE Ryan Hannam; QB Seneca Wallace (RFA); RB Maurice Morris; S Marquand Manuel; DE Rodney Bailey; DT Rocky Bernard; DE Joe Tafoya; LB Kevin Bentley; S John Howell; CB Jimmy Williams; P Tom Rouen; K Josh Brown (RFA); CB Kevin House; WR Jerheme Urban (RFA).

San Francisco: WR Arnaz Battle (RFA); WR Brandon Lloyd (RFA); OT Anthony Clement; FB Fred Beasley; TE Trent Smith (RFA); QB Ken Dorsey (RFA); FB Chris Hetherington; WR Jason McAddley; RB Steve Bush; QB Jesse Palmer; LB Julian Peterson; LB Brandon Moore; LB Derek Smith; DE Travis Hall; CB Willie Middlebrooks; K Joe Nedney.
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Minnesota: WR Nate Burleson (RFA); C Melvin Fowler; RB Michael Bennett; WR Koren Robinson; G Toniu Fonoti; C Cory Withrow; QB Shaun Hill; RB Moe Williams; LB Keith Newman; LB Sam Cowart; S Corey Chavous; CB Brian Williams; DE Lance Johnstone; CB Ralph Brown; LB Raonall Smith; K Paul Edinger; S Willie Offord.


Fuck, dude. We need like over half of those people.

Burleson - Best player ever. We'll probably just tenderize him.

Fowler - Great insurance policy for when Birk goes out again and then retires. Withrow can go fuck himself.

Bennett - Can go fuck himself, tbh. Horrible player, wasted space.

Koren Robinson - The replacement to Randy Moss we need. We will break the bank and regret it later when he hits the bottle again.

Fonoti - Tice has a hard-on for this guy. If Tice is here next season, so will Fonoti.

Withrow - Shouldn't be in the NFL.

Shaun Hill - See above.

Moe - Is a great leader, and I love him to death, but unless we can sign him to the minimum, he should just retire. He hasn't even played this season. And what he used to do well -- read defenses -- no longer worked this season. Probably because that's the only thing Tice does with Moe in the game... either a dive or a screen. Dunno. Not versatile to do anything unless we're on the goal line.

Newman/Johnstone - the only pressure we get on the QB comes from these guys. They're immense. We need them both.

Chavous - I wish he would retire early so he could be a coach. Such a smart player, I'd hate to lose him, but I hope he stays for a good price. Not a very good player though. Not Strong Safety material tbh.

Brian Williams - He's proving himself this season. I felt he proved himself last season, but the Vikings brass didn't agree. Deserves a new contract. Very versatile, and has a career at safety when he gets older.

Ralph Brown - Has proven he's capable of being a nickle, even starting in a pinch. We have so much depth he will likely go elsewhere, but I don't trust Devonte Edwards and all the other scrubs Tice brings in as undrafteds... we need an established role player, and I Brown. He goes nuts whenever he makes a play, but he's like Koren Robinson and a lot of our guys... came in here with a chip on his shoulder, proved himself, will make decent money elsewhere.

Raonall Smith - One of our best defensive players. Hasn't had a full, healthy season ever. Spent 2 of the last 3 years on IR the entire year, and last year he missed the end of the season after dominating early on. Yet we've kept him... he better sign for a discount with a team that has shown so much patience with his ass. So much speed and ferocity, he's definitely our best playmaking LB (when healthy).

Offord - Has proven incapable of playing safety since he was drafted, but got a little better every year. A late bloomer. He was awesome as a nickel linebacker last season, and they say he had an insane game by SS-standards before he went out for the season. The injury and him being a backup should give us him at a discount, but then Denny Green will probably be trying to steal all of these guys.

Edinger - Love this dude. Should break the bank in Kicker-terms for him. Who cares if he's not consistent... he has a leg and is clutch. That's all I care about. Having 10 years of gary and morten anderson have made me desperate. If we let him go, we need to work our asses off to bring back Elling, cause he looks like a 12 year old James Spader.

Oh and 20 mil in cap room will probably take care of these guys, though we'll probably let most of them go and spend it all on Edgerrin James.
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If I didn't say it before, Sam Cowart should stay one more year; he's a big reason our D is stepping up finally.
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The most important person the Bengals have to re-sign this offseason is Jeremi Johnson.

of course Chad might hold out but whatever
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Vinatieri will probably just be franchised again or signed to a deal. I really can't see him playing for any other teams, I doubt the Pats would let that happen.
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The thing about those defensive free agents of the Colts is, there is no defensive system in the NFL that will pay those guys huge money, because they are so undersized. There gunna get nice upgraded contracts from Indy, but no one will really pay them a ton of money. We will resign them with no problem.

Wayned or James is gunna get Franchised. If i was betting on it, I would bet Wayne.
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Colts just drove 89 yards for a TD on the Jags. It looked way to easy.
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I think it was more way than it was easy, tbh.
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Well the Jags are doing exactly what they should do. Play the field position game. We just punted out of our own endzone. Jags will most likely see some points here.
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Harrison just made Mathis look like Pacman Jones or Ike Taylor with a sick double move. 65 yard td.
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WTF The jags are playing like flat out dirty bitches
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This is why Dungy might rest his players. Shit like this. These guys are gunna hurt one of our players
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What are they doing, for those who are not watching the game?
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Peterson had a late hit on Reggie Wayne after he was down then a couple plays later John Henderson had some guys helmet and was basically driving it into the ground. Not much since then though, mainly cause Colts have murdered them.
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