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Old 05-23-2004, 06:42 PM   #1
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Why exactly do Liverpool fans expect to challenge to the top 3 the gulf is huge new manager or not teh only thing 'Pool have going for them is Owen and Gerrard the rest of the team is average
Because Liverpool have the basics needed to be the biggest club in England again:

- strong financial backing

- excellent youth system

- truly international fanbase

- prestigious history to attract the top players

- a great current stadium, with plans to move to a bigger and better one

With a good manager, they could be expected to sign the right players for the club, and to progress. Houillier has bought alot of crap, but he also laid the foundations of a strong team. Aside from Owen and Gerrard, they have established, talented young players like Diouf (who is TWICE African player of the year, don't forget, which is an amazing achievement for a player of 22 or 23), Riise, Kewell, Baros, Sinama-Pongolle, Le Tallec and Kirkland.

They also have a strong nucleus of excellent, experienced players like Hamman, Murphy, Carragher, Finnan and Hyypia.

They could be challengers if they had a manager who obviously inspired the players more, played with more ambition and didn't wallow in excuses.
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Old 05-23-2004, 06:08 PM   #2
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Actually it will be interesting to see how Heskey fits in at Birmingham,if its anything like at Liverpool then Forssell should get a lot of goals,he seems a better finisher than Owen and Owen misses a number of chances.
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Old 05-23-2004, 07:25 PM   #3
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Real Madrid finished 4th in La Liga after losing for the fifth game in a row.

Barcelona 2nd
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Real Madrid finished 4th in La Liga after losing for the fifth game in a row.

Barcelona 2nd
Well thats Quieroz(sp?) gone now I'd say can't see the Real board accepting that. Hitzfeld to Real d'ya think since hes finishing at Bayern?
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Well thats Quieroz(sp?) gone now I'd say can't see the Real board accepting that. Hitzfeld to Real d'ya think since hes finishing at Bayern?
He was sacked when Madrid lost to Monaco
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Old 05-24-2004, 06:35 AM   #6
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Well thats Quieroz(sp?) gone now I'd say can't see the Real board accepting that. Hitzfeld to Real d'ya think since hes finishing at Bayern?
I dunno,maybe Mourinho might consider that job now.

I feel sorry for Del Bosque though,i mean last year they won La Liga and got to the semi's of the champions league.
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Just heard on another forum that Houllier is gone announment in the morning this guy normally is bang on with things like this has a good friend who works as a sports journo for one of the nationals. Take from it what you will but I'm pretty certain if hes been told Houllier is gone then he is. We'll see tomorrow in any case. Leading contenders are supposed to be Curbishly and the Valencia coach whos name I can't remember right now. O'Neil is not supposed to be in the running.
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Old 05-23-2004, 07:55 PM   #8
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Really? Fuck completly missed that well I feel like an arse now
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Old 05-23-2004, 07:59 PM   #9
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I think he meant, he was "as good as" gone
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Old 05-23-2004, 08:10 PM   #10
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Ah right good don't have to feel like a complete fool then.
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It's funny how every managerial job that crops up, everyone straight away talks about O'Neill.

I read the News Of The World earlier, and I agree with them, Liverpool should go for either Curbishley, Bruce or McClaren. They are the best managers England have to offer, I would still regard Bruce and McClaren as unproven, but Curbishley is definitley worth a mention. I could see him going too, I know that Charlton had a good season, but when he was linked with the Spurs job, he never seemed to 100% rule himself out. If Liverpool do offer Curbishley the job, I think he'd take it.

Hitzfield has already been sacked from Bayern, and it's kinda funny (to me) that a few months back he said that Chelsea wanted him but he was going to stay with Bayern, and then the Chelsea board said they never approached him and he said they did and we seemed to be pissed off with him, it will be interesting to see who we get if Mourinho doesn't come.
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I'd like to see O'Neill back in England,he's only been back to Leicester once since leaving.Even though i think Houllier should possibly be given a chance to build on the end of last season,if O'Neill was given the amount of money that Houllier has spent then i'd feel they would be challenging more.
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According to the BBC, Houllier will be sacked today
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I stand corrected.

Apparently Houllier will RESIGN
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Its Official, Gerard Houllier has parted company with Liverpool.

As a fan of the club, I have to say that he did a tremendous job to build this club back up from the position we were in during the mid 90s, and he brought one of the greatest moments the club has ever had, and for that, I, and all the fans of Liverpool will be thankful. However, he has, over the last 2 seasons, taken Liverpool backwards from the position which we held the year we came 2nd. We should have pushed on, but we didn't, and he has shown a distinct inability to buy top quality players, while at the same time spending over the odds for what he got.

I feel it is a good move for Liverpool, but will remember Houllier for the good things, rather than the bad.
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Old 05-24-2004, 08:17 AM   #18
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The board may aswell get Morgan back in to buy the club now then,he wanted Houllier out and would provide a lot more money.

I'm sad to see Houllier go,he nearly gave his life in management and arguably for Liverpool Football Club.
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Henrik Larsson has turned down a move to Blackburn,because of "the weather".

I think it might have something to do with them being poor,in reality.
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I think it might have something to do with them being poor,in reality.
Yeah Blackburn is a bit of an improvement on Glasgow.
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Old 05-24-2004, 08:41 AM   #21
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Charlton have signed the Danish no.2 keeper,Stephan Anderson.

Also Yakubu has said he is happy at Portsmouth.
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I dunno. You probably haven't been to blackburn much. The weather near my parents is rough quite a lot of the time
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Old 05-24-2004, 12:09 PM   #23
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I didn't mean to say Blackburn has good weather,just that Larsson probably just felt they were too poor a side for him to go to,so said he wanted to be somewhere warmer.I still think he could move to England.
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i imagine he'll probably end up somewhere like france or portugal, decent leagues but not huge.
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Was Houllier's time to go.

He did good though for a while just time for a change though.
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Barcelona should sign Larsson. He'd be perfect for them.
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I did hear Barca were interested,if Kluivert leaves then Larsson would be the perfect replacement.
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Since we mentioned him too, Carlos Queiroz was sacked and Real Madrid will replace him with Jose Antonio Camacho
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Apparently Man United are wrapping up a deal with Alan Smith now for £5.5 Million plus Danny Pugh going to Leeds.
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Leeds could have got better.

Pugh doesn't seem as good as some other youngsters.
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You think we'd give them Kieron Richardson or Chris Eagles?
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I'd have thought a bit more money would be suffice

Thinking about it,if Pugh isn't that good then we'll have a good chance next season against Leeds.

That better not come back to haunt me.
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Smith isn't worth anymore than £5.5 million. He only scored 9 goals this season.
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imo he's not worth more than that as i think he's overrated but if Everton were offering £7 million...
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Smith is excellent.

Rob, someone at Rajah pointed out that Alan Shearer only scored 23 goals in 118 games for Southampton before he went to Blackburn, at 22/23. Smith is only 23.

Look at how talented he is, rather than statistics.
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Smith is excellent.

Rob, someone at Rajah pointed out that Alan Shearer only scored 23 goals in 118 games for Southampton before he went to Blackburn, at 22/23. Smith is only 23.

Look at how talented he is, rather than statistics.
They only paid £3.5 million for Shearer though (ok it was a British transfer record but anyway). Shearer also scored more than 9 goals in his previous season and never got Southampton relegated.

I want Smith anyway.
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They only paid £3.5 million for Shearer though (ok it was a British transfer record but anyway). Shearer also scored more than 9 goals in his previous season and never got Southampton relegated.

I want Smith anyway.
Point is, Smith has talent. He's big, strong, fast, good in the air, got great technique, very hardworking and is a good finisher.

Bear in mind Leeds bosses have shifted him around from midfield to a supporting role, and that Leeds are shite.

In a good side, he'll get 20+ goals a season. £5.5 million, if it's true, would be a huge bargain, and would make up the inflated price Saha cost.
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