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Because that's all he gets. A trip to Honolulu, maybe half a dozen "special team player of the week" awards, and lots of smoke blown up his ass. The guy can't even get drafted on fantasy leagues. LOL. That's like being the best assistant coach in the NFL right there. You just have to deal with it, and be glad you're giving your team points/wins... |
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#2042 | |
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I mean, when you play for the Bears, you're going to see a lot more punts than any other guy in the league. |
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Dude... the Saints scoring 42 points in Dallas doesn't even register as a TEAM record. It is only a record for Texas Stadium. That's it. Stop fooling yourself that it is some great NFL record for the sake of this arguement. |
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I agree 100%. RP was the one who brought up Hester for MVP, but I think it's a great idea and should be fun to see him get a few votes here and there. |
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#2046 |
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The Vikings ran back a punt, kick off, and a int last year, for the first time in NFL history, and I don't hear Beans crying because no one cares..
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#2047 |
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That's because *I* know that was fucking sick.
Also, because Michael Bennett also ran the ball 16 times for 11 yards and Brad Johnson is trash, and the Vikings are a horrible, horrible team. So I have no right to talk. BUT LOL@ last year's Giants. But... yea you gotta give it to Sean Payton for knowing how to play against the team he used to coach. Like Gruden vs the Raiders. Anyway, yeah, the record is an old record and people are being groomed to be full-time returners, yet nobody -- Hall, Lewis, Darrell Green, Brian Mitchell, that Lions guy from back in the day, none of them ever broke the record. Also, look at individual records. Last edited by AlphaBean; 12-13-2006 at 02:19 PM. |
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I don't see why breaking a record matters. If he had one less TD return I would still think the same of Hester. Like when Manning broke the TD record, it was pretty cool and all but if he had like 3 less TDs my opinion of him wouldn't have changed.
Like I said, everyone was on Hall's dick before but nobody mentioned him for an MVP - at the sametime though Hester is a lot better of a returner then Hall was. Hester is probably going to go down as one of the best returners ever, as long as he doesn't get hurt or something. I'm not just basing this off this year either, check out some of his tapes from The U. Personally I don't think Hester should be considered for the NFL MVP, I mean yeah what he is doing is important but a lot of guys are doing things just as important. Plus, I don't really like the whole MVP thing anyway since it is real subjective about what is suppose to be about, what you have to do to get it etc. Like some people think it should go to the best player, others think it should go the player who helps his team the most, but in the end, it pretty much just goes to the offensive player with the most impressive stats. I am all for Hester being a canidate for Defenisve Rookie of the Year though |
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See, I remember in Hall's crazy ass season he got some MVP consideration... again, not serious, because how serious can that be? But the "X-Factor" definitely made some noise.
As I said, even Joe Nathan got a vote or two in the MLB MVP voting... just to be mentioned in the same breath as the big boys should be enough of an award for Hester. |
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OUT OF CONTEXT Anyways... Hester's return record is somewhere near 1000000000000000X more important than the Saints' putting up 42 on Dallas. What's that noise? Over there..... Sounds like the Simpsons.... Homer? Last edited by Joey Slugs; 12-13-2006 at 02:26 PM. |
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He was comparing me to you, because you think Hester deserves more credit.
I think the fact that he's on everybody's "PLAY OF THE YEAR" list should be credit enough. |
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I think Hester is getting plenty of love through out the football world. I just think it's funny that some of the "superfans" here don't see the "wow" factor.
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#2054 |
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I think it's because nobody likes you. I'm willing to overlook my personal feelings, because I know you're just a typical Bears fan and can't help how you are.
Objectively, you can't deny that 6 TDs is fucking insane. |
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#2055 |
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What would you think if Hester ran another one back this week? See, those types of plays ( the type he does ) are backbreaking momentum changing plays. Some of those run backs have come at the perfect time to swing games in favor of Chicago. I'm pretty sure Chicago has won every game he's returned one in. Even that Vikings return was huge, that game was horrible and neither QB could make a first down. I think it was either zip/zip or zip/6 or something, but once he returned that punt, it was over for the Vikings.
I know its a stretch, but lets see how everyone feels if he runs back another. |
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Could you imagine if he has one of his "backbreaking" returns in the Super Bowl? Just imagine a situtation like the one against Arizona (just with a better game). Bears down late in the game, the D makes a big stop to force the punt... Hester runs 70 + yards for the game winning TD. |
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And you are right RP, the Bears have won each game that Hester has had a return in.
Green Bay (W) Arizona (W) New York (W) Minnesota (W) St. Louis - 2 (W) |
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#2059 |
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I don't even know why this is an argument when Ted Ginn is just gonna break the record in a year or two anyway.
Also Jesus Christ I can't believe I've never seen that punt return against Duke before. That was impressive even if it was against a JV high school team. |
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![]() And I think the correlation between Chicago wins and Hester runbacks might be overrated when you've only lost 2 games... It's kind of the law of averages... Lots of runbacks, lots of wins. :dunno: And if you guys make the Superbowl, and face the Chargers, he will never get a chance to return punts... he'll only have several chances at returning the Kickoff after a LT TD for his big run-back. ![]() |
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The record stood for 35 years and now you expect some dude to just come out and break it right away? Yeah... Ok. |
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I like Ginn alot, but i think once he gets in the pro's, it'll take one major hit on special teams for him to tighten up like a dolphins asshole.
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Also when I was in a HS, a kid on my team broke the career scoring record my senior year (which stood for 53 years) then the next year some other kid broke it so it can happen. Granted it was high school, its still football. |
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Stima's "Most penalty yards in one game " record still stands to this day.
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How on earth did he get an unnecessary roughness flag on that play? He graduated two years ago!!!
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You know for a fact that if Hester played for someone eles, you would not be on his jock like you are.. Oh and I was not saying "The Bears" would be crying about anything.. I am saying you are crying because everyone is not on Devin Hester's cock.. |
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#2068 | |
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RP started the "Hester for MVP" talk, not me. I'm arguing the fact that you bring up the 42 points in Dallas like it's some HUGE record, yet you downplay the 6 TD returns. And if he didn't play for the Bears, I would be just as amazed of what he has done this year... because I am a football fan. I know you'll come back with something witty like "No you wouldn't" but that's fine with me. And I have already said that Hester is getting plenty of love from the football world, I just find it funny that the "superfans" here are acting like it is nothing... mainly because he doesn't play for their team. |
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Thing is, no one is acting like it's nothing.. You are making a huge deal about it.. As we've been saying, there have been several impressive kick returners in the past few years.. As a "superfan" I know that.. You are questioning everyone eles' knowledge and how big of fans we are, just because no one is wanking to highlight reels of him.. He's good, just not seman worthy..
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Also, a record is a record.. I could care less..
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Dante Hall > Hester
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#2072 |
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Anyone > Any Broncos returner besides Rod Smith
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And on the Giants play, yeah it was bad football, half the Giants were walking off the damn field until they realized what was happening. The Bears did demolish the only guys that got in the way though. I don't mind seeing the Bears win and Hester is undoubtedly a big part of that. I don't know if Grossman is going to be able to play well down the stretch though. |
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And Hall hasn't done it in years. What happened to him? |
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Also, one of the Cheifs, after laying a block on the punter stood over him and taunted/celebrated said block. Come on now, seriously. Congratulations on laying out the weakest guy on the team (then Micah Knorr) |
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quesque fuck?
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Why don't they have a Special Teams Player of a Year anyway? They have the Special Teams Player of the Month and all that.
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Alright Krispy, I am too lazy to change the avatar so I just changed the custom title. This is 4908530948543 worse anyway.
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