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Old 07-31-2007, 12:02 AM   #2081
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Gagne has a list of teams he has to approve a trade to. I think Boston and Detroit are on that list. NY isn't.
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Old 07-31-2007, 12:16 AM   #2082
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Think the Red Sox might get Dye? I know they have some OFs but Dye I think would fit in well with them.
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Old 07-31-2007, 12:28 AM   #2083
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So the Dotel trade is far from done. But if its getting done it wont be long now.
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Old 07-31-2007, 12:44 AM   #2084
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I read that the Braves are trying to work out a deal to get Bronson Arroyo from the Reds.
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Old 07-31-2007, 12:47 AM   #2085
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Some Proposed Trades I read about

This would suprise me if this one happened
Mets get:
Adam Dunn
Ken Griffey Jr.

Reds get:
Carlos Beltran
Lastings Millledge

Red Sox get:
Jermaine Dye

White Sox get:
Wily Mo Pena
Pitching Prospect
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Old 07-31-2007, 01:44 AM   #2086
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Some Proposed Trades I read about

This would suprise me if this one happened
Mets get:
Adam Dunn
Ken Griffey Jr.

Reds get:
Carlos Beltran
Lastings Millledge

Red Sox get:
Jermaine Dye

White Sox get:
Wily Mo Pena
Pitching Prospect

I can see the Sox to Sox trade happening, makes alot of sense on both sides. The reds mets trade will never happen.
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Old 07-31-2007, 02:08 AM   #2087
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I don't see why the Mets would give up Beltran and Milledge for Dunn and Griffey.


anyway fucking Mets fans...


NEW YORK (Reuters) - A New York man has been charged with beating his mother to death with a barbell after losing his temper while watching a baseball game on television.
Michael Anthony, 25, was watching the New York Mets lose a game on Saturday from his home in the borough of Queens when he began furiously banging on the walls, Queens District Attorney Richard Brown said in a statement on Monday.
His father Fred Fischman shouted at him to stop, but Anthony punched him in the face and threw him to the ground, according to the criminal charges.
When Anthony's mother, Maria Fischman, 61, tried to intervene, prosecutors said he stabbed her once in the head with a knife before chasing her into a bedroom where he struck her several times with the 20 pound (9 kilogram) barbell.
"It is difficult to imagine a crime more heinous than that of a son viciously attacking his parents and, in the process, fatally beating his mother to death," Brown said.
Anthony has been remanded in custody and faces a maximum of life in prison if convicted.
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Some Proposed Trades I read about

This would suprise me if this one happened
Mets get:
Adam Dunn
Ken Griffey Jr.

Reds get:
Carlos Beltran
Lastings Millledge

Red Sox get:
Jermaine Dye

White Sox get:
Wily Mo Pena
Pitching Prospect
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Old 07-31-2007, 02:43 AM   #2089
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Its fucking horrible that JD Drew sucks so bad that the Red Sox are forced to give up a pretty big pitching prospect in order to get a guy who can platoon with him in right field
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Old 07-31-2007, 02:56 AM   #2090
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Old 07-31-2007, 05:08 AM   #2091
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Dodgers pushing hard for Blanton. We need pitching help badly.
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Its fucking horrible that JD Drew sucks so bad that the Red Sox are forced to give up a pretty big pitching prospect in order to get a guy who can platoon with him in right field
oh come on. He's got 6 HRS and 40RBI to go along with that .248 batting avg. what more where you expecting from a guy that signed for @ 70 million??
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Dodgers pushing hard for Blanton. We need pitching help badly.

Joe Blanton: Dodgers Asking About Blanton

Joe Blanton: Dodgers Asking About Blanton
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Tuesday, July 31, 2007 Update: The Dodgers have asked Oakland about trading for Blanton, ESPN reports. Recommendation: The report says the two sides were talking about a package of three "frontline" prospects, but that negotiations have since cooled. The Dodgers are working the phones to try and trade for a starter, but this doesn't sound likely.
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Highly doubt the Beltran/Milledge for Dunn/Griffey deal is true. Heard nothing about it on local radio/in the NY Daily News

I would absolutely LOVE getting Gagne though. It'd probably cost Milledge (or Carlos Gomez) (or Fernando Martinez). Guess that's the positive to having 3 ridiculous CF prospects.

Wagner and Gagne as a two-headed closer would =
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Yankees get:
3B Wilson Betemit

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Old 07-31-2007, 02:26 PM   #2098
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oh come on. He's got 6 HRS and 40RBI to go along with that .248 batting avg. what more where you expecting from a guy that signed for @ 70 million??
lol I guess I can't really blame him, I would have signed the contract too if a team was dumb enough to offer me that much money. As I've said before, Theo gets a hard-on for certain players and HAS to sign them, it really blows my mind too because he seems to make pretty good decisions in all the other aspects of running a team.
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Old 07-31-2007, 02:34 PM   #2099
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The Red Sox have dealt RHP Joel Pineiro and cash to the Cardinals for a player to be named later.

lol MAKE THAT MONEY SON

Also, just heard that the White Sox might have to take this deal since there are no better offers coming in

White Sox get:
Wily Mo Pena
Craig Hansen

Red Sox get:
Jermaine Dye
Minor league prospect

I really can't believe the White Sox would do this because A.) Craig Hansen has a major league contract and makes 1 mil a year B.) he isn't even good and C.) Manny Delcaremen is way better and is already in the majors. I've heard a lot of reports it was going to be Delcaremen but if the combination of Hansen/Pena is enough for the White Sox then that is pretty fucking sweet.
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Hearing now that the Gagne hunt is down to the Brewers and Red Sox.

Mets apparently rapidly exchanging names with the Nationals for Chad Cordero.
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LOL Steve Phillips just went on about how Bonds WILL break the record in San Francisco...even if it means manipulating playing time or Bonds purposely tanking.

When told that the Giants would be playing teams with chances at the postseason, he said "it doesn't matter...the record is more important".

Fucking idiot.
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Heard that Gagne deal is close with the Red Sox. Just depends on his consent.

Okajima-Gagne-Papelbon? Crazy. The Sox could get that last piece that would push their pen over the top while the Yankees get Betemit...and take away from their biggest weakness in the pen.
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Detroit should be fine not to pick up another reliever. If Zumaya comes back healthy then they will be fine. One of the big things that made Detroit so successful last season was your starters throwing 88-95 mph, Zumaya throwing 100 mph and then Jones coming in and throwing 85-90. It throws off people like crazy.
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Okajima-Gagne-Papelbon? Crazy. The Sox could get that last piece that would push their pen over the top while the Yankees get Betemit...and take away from their biggest weakness in the pen.
Not trying to steal your thunder, but that is sick. I would compare it to Rodney-Zumaya-Jones of the Tigers of last year.
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I will be pretty disappointed if all Cashman does is deal Proctor...the whole point of this deadline was for improving the bullpen. Instead of doing that it looks like he made the pen even worse.
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They'll just use Farnsworth more.
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The less of Farnsworth I see the better. Unless I am seeing him on another team, facing the Yankees.

If this deadline shapes up to be the Yankees losing Proctor and keeping Farnsworth then it is an awful job by Cashman. Still 40 minutes to deal Farnsworth, although I can't see it happening with Proctor being dealt unfortunately.
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Still lots of deals happen after this trade deadline.
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Old 07-31-2007, 05:02 PM   #2109
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Proctor Sucks, it just makes room for one of the studs from the minors. Britton Baby
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Dye & Gange...

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Sox get Gagne, Celts get Garnett, Pats are gonna be amazing, it's good to be a Boston fan huh? Also, meh, Betemit is a piece of shit, glad we got rid of him. Hope Proctor can help us out here.
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Proctor isn't great but he doesn't suck. Its still a hit to lose him from the pen for a bench player who will probably never even play anyway.

The fact that the Yankees didn't get relief help/actually traded away one of their better relievers is putting a ton of pressure on the young guys to step up no? We are still in a playoff race and to put that pressure on some of those guys is asking quite a lot.

And there is no one in the minors who you can expect to pitch as many innings as Proctor. Even if Britton can replace Proctor our bullpen still sucks because it would be like standing pat at the deadline, and thats if he could replace Proctor.
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I still don't know what we need Betemit for. I guess Cairo is done? Insurance for A-Rod?

Proctor wasn't that bad. If anything, he ate innings. One less arm out there, though I guess it makes way for the likes of Chris Britton and Joba Chamberlain.
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Padres got Morgan Ensberg.

Pirates got Matt Morris.

Whatever
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7th - Hideki Okajima
8th - Eric Gagne
9th - Jonathan Papelbon

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Yeah, I'm really not understand it that much. Betemit pretty much replaces Cairo who plays about 1 or 2 times every couple weeks. Its just stupid because now we have to replace Proctor's innings and add a couple more to improve the pen. We need a couple young guys to be solid in the pen just to see any improvement.

I can understand not getting Gagne though, because they wanted Kennedy or Melky which really wouldn't have worked for a half year rental.
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We needed pitching help, we needed a guy to eat up innings, because our starters aren't going that deep anymore, and our bullpen is banged up. Yeah seems that the Dodgers got the better end of that deal.
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Although with people coming back the Yankees do improve, and at the cost of nothing. Hughes is probably pitching Saturday, Joba is coming up, Karstens will be back soon. Then Britton and Ramirez. So that pretty much should improve the #5 spot, long man for the pen, and a couple relievers. Still putting some pressure on them though during a playoff push.
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Penny pitching tonight I see. So that should be a W. 14-1 baby.
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