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4 games
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I am being a completely subjective football fan here.
He is unreal. He is making everything look easy. It like watching Michael Jordan play basketball. Watching Michael Vick play QB is beautiful thing. I swear to God |
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Adrian Foster Rushed for over 200 yards week one against the colts, doesn't mean he is a better RB than chris johnson..
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#2126 |
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Give me a break
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If he did it over 4 games people then people would say "Arian Foster is having a better year than Chris Johnson so far."
Michael Vick is having a better year than any QB so far this year. |
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Still doesn't mak him>"my quarterback".. He needs to win a super bowl, which a running qb has never done, then he can be in the same category as the likes of Brees..
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#2129 |
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#2130 |
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I did forget Phillip Rivers. Who has been great. I'm still saying Vick.
The whole runnings aspect puts Vick ahead. |
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#2131 |
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I'll stick with "my" quarterback
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As you should he's great. He was as close to perfect as you can possibly Sunday night on the road against The Steelers.
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Michael Vick had an incredible game, and his season is going great, but I still am not sold on it lasting.
We'll see. It's just funny how after that one game the sports world is now crowning the guy. I suppose that's only natural though, since it was a national game last night and that's what they do. And in any event I wouldn't really trade the Patriots quarterback since they're in decent shape. Brady's got 17 touchdowns and a shit-ton of yards too, but that's just statistics. The intangibles concern me more. As long as he gets to the playoffs and perform there I'm not too concerned about much else. Plus I will forever hate Vick with every fiber of my being, regardless of his performance ont he field, because of what he did. I don't disagree with "second chances" either. He should be able to play since he served his time legally, but I still don't think that absolves him morally. |
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That was weak. You can dis me better then that.
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#2136 |
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McLegend, I think you're wrong, but I don't think you're THAT wrong. I don't think there's any question in my mind that Vick is the most talented player in the NFL. And he probably still has the strongest arm of any QB, although Jamarcus Russell and Kyle Boller can tell you that doesn't mean shit.
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So far he's been accurate. He's done everything better then anyone has expected.
On a Minor side not... Watching Michael Vick throw a deep ball is incredible. It looks like he hardly puts any effort into it. He just flicks his wrist and it goes 60 yards. I love it. |
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The pregame altercation got us going. It had us ready. We came back into the locker room pumped," Jackson said, via the AP.
"We were like pit bulls, ready to get out of the cage." -Deshawn Jackson |
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Irony..
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That was a dumb thing to say.
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He did have a serious concussion, but cmon DeSean
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#2143 |
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I don't really care if you want to grant Vick the distinction of best quarterback or not. To me, arguing who gets that title is splitting hairs. I will say this, he is the last guy I want to be playing quarterback for the opposition based upon the high level he is currently playing at. The guy is a nightmare to defend. He has always been a superb athlete, but the way he is making throws and playing from the pocket now catapults him to unknown levels. I think the only way to really definitively beat him is to knock him out of the game. I wouldn't wish that upon anyone, but if I remember correctly, the Giants beat the Falcons years ago when he got knocked out of the game.
Otherwise, the dude is an absolute beast. He is playing just as good as any other quarterback in the league right now, if not better. Nobody can argue that. If you try, you're just a homer. |
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that said, doesn't mean he isn't a talented QB and fun to watch... just means I enjoy watching his talent but don't like him as a person. |
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#2145 |
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Honestly, I don't give a shit about the dog fighting. I have five dogs too, so don't go there. There are NFL players that have killed people that are playing, and nobody threw a shit fit like they did over Michael Vick (speaking generally, not just here at TPWW.) It's a joke.
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#2147 |
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Well, yeah but that's because Kyle Orton is so far and away the best QB that it should go without saying
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Stallworth wasn't??
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Yes, Stallworth.
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C'mon JS. I would never play the race card. So please add something, or go fuck yourself.
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What you said doesn't make sense.. You said that Vick gets treated differently cause he is young, black, and rich but the guys you are separating him from are in the exact same situation..
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"CC Brown on deadspin list of NFLs worst 100: 'F that list and F them too.'" [Twitter]
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Yeah I just meant if someone tried to say "insert your favorite team's QB" was definitively better. I look at like this: I would rather play against Peyton Manning or Drew Brees than Michael Vick. To me, I'm not trying to slight Manning or Brees because they are both excellent quarterbacks. Right now, Vick is throwing the ball as well as anyone (even if he doesn't throw up equivalent numbers, for example 300+ yards and 3 touchdowns passing.) The fact he can take off at any time just makes him harder to defend. I mean, I know none of this is a revelation to anyone. But am I making sense?
At least with some of the other quarterbacks, who are less mobile, you have a chance to disrupt their game by getting to them and laying hits on them etc. With Vick, that is so much more of a harder thing to do, which is why I feel that he is the last guy I would want playing quarterback against my favorite team. Quote:
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The difference is he isn't a third down reciever, he is a quarterback in the NFL. The most visible position in the NFL.
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You think if the Eagles drafted a black WR instead of McNabb he would have been booed? Maybe it was because they didn't take Ricky Williams. There has always been a different scrutiny in the NFL when it comes to black quarterbacks. The same way there was for black MLB before the 60's. I can't help it if certain parts of America still think it's only halftime of the Civil War.
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