MLB 2007 Season Thread - Page 54

**Dragon** · 07-31-2007, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by SammyG

We needed pitching help, we needed a guy to eat up innings, because our starters aren't going that deep anymore, and our bullpen is banged up. Yeah seems that the Dodgers got the better end of that deal.

I guess its pretty fair. It just seemed like a weird time to make the trade for the Yankees. The problem everyone was thinking with Proctor is that his arm would be dead soon with the way Torre used him. And Betemit would be a good pinch-hitter off the bench if we actually needed one. I've heard he is insurance if A-Rod leaves but I can't see him being a good enough option.

Boras was Gagne's agent right? He seems to have a decent relationship with the Red Sox - Dice-K, Drew, Gagne all in the past year...Just a little nervous on what that could mean for A-Rod in the offseason.

**SammyG** · 07-31-2007, 06:24 PM

Betemit is terrible. But he showed flashes hitting PH HR's. You don't know what you're gonna get with this guy. I'm glad he is gone.

**VonErichLives** · 07-31-2007, 06:32 PM

the deal for Dye fell through... It's said they had a deal and then the White Sox wanted another top prospect thrown in...

The sox still need another bat, especially with Papi needing to rest/heel...

maybe Drew will get hot the last 2 months of the season...

and maybe the sun will shine every day and no global warming and....

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 07-31-2007, 06:38 PM

Garnett and Gagne WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW

I'm also not that upset about the Dye thing falling through anyway, I wasn't really sold on him this year plus I would hate to see them give up a good pitching prospect for a half year rental

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 07-31-2007, 06:44 PM

Actaully make that Garnett, Gagne, Okajima, Matsuzaka, Adalius Thomas, Randy Moss, Wes Welker and Dante Stallworth

Some solid pick ups for Boston Sports

(no mention of JD Drew)

**Adder** · 07-31-2007, 06:58 PM

Yankees seem to be worried more about next year while Boston was going for it this year. Can't blame the Yankees, but I know their fans always expect them to make bold moves. As far as I'm concerned they're done for this year anyway, so it shows good judgment on Cashman's part not to go after a rental player and giving up a prospect or two. The Red Sox did the right thing. Even if Gabbard goes on to be a solid pitcher, Boston has a real shot at winning the WS this year.

**FakeLaser** · 07-31-2007, 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SammyG

We needed pitching help, we needed a guy to eat up innings, because our starters aren't going that deep anymore, and our bullpen is banged up. Yeah seems that the Dodgers got the better end of that deal.

I wouldn't say that much. Proctor has pitched more innings than any reliever in baseball these past 2 seasons. He's as much of an injury risk as any bullpen arm out there. His inconsistency this year showcases that pretty well.

**FakeLaser** · 07-31-2007, 07:04 PM

There's no way the Yankees would rely on Betemit if A-Rod leaves. He's an improvement over Cairo though.

**Adder** · 07-31-2007, 07:12 PM

Don't forget to look at it like this, FraZor

By not brining in a rental guy (who you now feel compelled to try and resign) you leave a lot of money for ARod should he opt out and you're able to resign. If he does opt out and can't resign, you need to find a new 3B, you can toss a boatload of money at a Caberra (or whatever) without having more money invested in a rental player.
Losing Proctor may open a spot up again for an Igawa or Hughes. I expect the Yankees will put Hughes and/or Igawa into the bullpen once the rosters expand.

**Dragon** · 07-31-2007, 07:37 PM

Hughes is actually gonna be in the starting rotation I think. If he is an average pitcher the next couple months he would be a huge improvement over Igawa.

**Adder** · 07-31-2007, 07:42 PM

I can see putting him in the starting rotation, but that would mean someone from the rotation would be dropping down, unless they are going to go with 5+ starters. ?? Anyway, it would serve him well to pitch long relief this year if they still consider themselves contenders. If they don't, might as well make him a starter and stress to him that the rest of this year is to get comfortable with starting. No need heaping a ton of pressure on the guy.

**Adder** · 07-31-2007, 07:50 PM

Looks like Sammy Sosa has a real shot at reaching 100 RBIs. Who would have thought it. Don't think too many people (myself included) would have figured he'd have more RBIs than Ortiz or Manny at this stage of the season, or be 1 behind Pujols.

**Dragon** · 07-31-2007, 08:41 PM

He is just taking over Igawa's spot; I think Igawa was already sent down to AAA. He should have the stuff to be a decent #5 now. He doesn't even have to be very good to be better than Igawa.

**ClockShot** · 07-31-2007, 10:10 PM

Let's see. White Sox picked up Eric Gagne, Braves won the Mark Teixera lottery, Yankees are hitting dingers right now. WHAT THE HELL! DR. PROCTOR GETS TRADED! SOMEONE FILL ME IN!

**ClockShot** · 07-31-2007, 10:14 PM

GODZILLA IS ON THE LOOSE!

**YOUR Hero** · 07-31-2007, 10:20 PM

*Red Sox

Matsui is having a quietly good year.

**Hanso Amore** · 07-31-2007, 10:30 PM

for once NY doesnt make any moves and kept their future. They may have not gotten 30 games out of a crappy reliever (not much out there) but they guanteed that they have money for Arod (like that is an issue! ) and they kept the doors open for their young arms. Thy have the best young arms in the league and I just want to see them make it.

Add in the Melk Man and cano, and the yanks have a good yougn core for the first time since Pettite/jeter and company started popping in.

**Innovator** · 07-31-2007, 10:39 PM

8 different Yankees have hit a home run, except Jeter and A-Rod

**ClockShot** · 07-31-2007, 10:48 PM

I was cracking up when the crowd booed Farnsworth when he got to the mound. This might be a late wakeup call to Cashman.

**YOUR Hero** · 07-31-2007, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by MatthewAllenHanso

but they guanteed that they have money for Arod (like that is an issue! )

actually I think money is an issue. Not just big dollars, by the # of years of the terms.

Even the Yankees can't go on spending so much money especially without the results. That's why I agree with most of what Adder typed up.

**mrslackalack** · 07-31-2007, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by FakeRazor

There's no way the Yankees would rely on Betemit if A-Rod leaves. He's an improvement over Cairo though.

Maybe they will resign A-Rod or get a decent 3b like a Troy Glaus. They actually said this morning on First Take that the Angels and Yanks actually talked about a trade for A-Rod.

**mrslackalack** · 07-31-2007, 11:03 PM

This might be one of the best seasons ever for the stretch run for playoff spots considering how many divisions are in close races.

**Dragon** · 07-31-2007, 11:05 PM

Only 3 back in the wildcard. Obviously sucked that the Red Sox improved in the deadline, but pretty happy the Indians stood pat.

**Hardkore Kidd J** · 07-31-2007, 11:18 PM

In a way I'm kinda happy we didn't get Gagne.All in all it pays off in the end. Let's just look at it this way. We would have had to give up Melky a 22 year old center Fielder and Ian Kennedy a guy who alot of people are saying cou;d be a third pitcher on the 2008 five man roster. Gagne is what you call a " 2 month rental" . So in other words after this year I can pretty much guarentee you that Boras will get Gagne a closing job so unless Boston wants to give up Papelbon just so Gagne can close in 2008.( Stupid Decision right there) Gagne is as good as gone.

I've got a feeling A-Rod will stay. But unfortunately I had the same feeling about getting Matsazaka and Gagne. Another good thing is catching up with Boston was a stretch for us anyway even if we had actually signed Eric.

Quote:

By not brining in a rental guy (who you now feel compelled to try and resign) you leave a lot of money for ARod should he opt out and you're able to resign. If he does opt out and can't resign, you need to find a new 3B, you can toss a boatload of money at a Caberra (or whatever) without having more money invested in a rental player.
Losing Proctor may open a spot up again for an Igawa or Hughes. I expect the Yankees will put Hughes and/or Igawa into the bullpen once the rosters expand.

I can tell you I don't want Hughes in the bullpen. I think he's more of a starter. Now losing Proctor opens up the chance to put Joba Chamberlain and or Igawa into the bull pen. I would much prefer Joba though.

**YOUR Hero** · 07-31-2007, 11:19 PM

Dave Roberts (SF Giant player) is asking Dodger fans to be respectful of Barry Bonds if and when he hits his milesone HR in LA.

LOL, ok, Dave.

**mrslackalack** · 07-31-2007, 11:20 PM

I think if the Yanks make the playoffs even if they go out again in the ALDS that Torre def deserves at least another season back after this rally they have made because it looked like they were completely out of it.

**mrslackalack** · 07-31-2007, 11:21 PM

LOL at Dave Roberts comments.

**mrslackalack** · 07-31-2007, 11:26 PM

BREAKING NEWS

Following in Princes footsteps Barry Bonds is changing his name to a symbol. The symbol is

**********************************************

**Hardkore Kidd J** · 07-31-2007, 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrslackalack

I think if the Yanks make the playoffs even if they go out again in the ALDS that Torre def deserves at least another season back after this rally they have made because it looked like they were completely out of it.

You mean tonights game? I had a feeling they would win. Jose Contreras isn't that good. I believed even someone like Moose could win this game.

**mrslackalack** · 07-31-2007, 11:32 PM

I meant the season in general for the Yanks considering they were 14 and a half back at the end of May and 10 at the ASB.

**Hardkore Kidd J** · 07-31-2007, 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrslackalack

I meant the season in general for the Yanks considering they were 14 and a half back at the end of May and 10 at the ASB.

Yeah I think you're right. He should be given another year. We could be way further down on the Wild Card Standings. And way further down on the AL east standings if it weren't for him. Oh and A-Rod that guy also really helped a huge amount.

**mrslackalack** · 08-01-2007, 12:00 AM

I gotta say it again Hardcore you prolly have one of the best avatars out there.

**mrslackalack** · 08-01-2007, 12:02 AM

That is a great point Hardcore, A-Rod delivered about 4-5 comeback wins for the Yankees early in the season that could have dug them in a deeper hole.

**OssMan** · 08-01-2007, 12:13 AM

Milledge just saved the game in the 9th inning, time for him to high five the fans

**mrslackalack** · 08-01-2007, 12:20 AM

Milledge has some great potential.

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 08-01-2007, 12:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YOUR Hero

Dave Roberts (SF Giant player) is asking Dodger fans to be respectful of Barry Bonds if and when he hits his milesone HR in LA.

LOL, ok, Dave.

Don't bad mouth Dave Roberts you piece of shit

**SammyG** · 08-01-2007, 04:36 AM

Yeah I like Dave Roberts as well, but his comments were ROFL. Wow Dodgers, you know what would be really cool? If you removed your fucking heads from your fucking asses and started winning again, FUCK.

**SammyG** · 08-01-2007, 07:02 AM

Bonds is either tying or breaking the record tommorrow. Hendrickson is pitching.

**SammyG** · 08-01-2007, 07:07 AM

oh, and after that it's Tomko. Definitely breaking the record in LA

**YOUR Hero** · 08-01-2007, 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sTiMa34

Don't bad mouth Dave Roberts you piece of shit

Badmouth Dave? Never. Us old guys have to stick together. That doesn't mean I can't laugh at stupid ass comments.

07-31-2007, 06:24 PM	#2122
SammyG LAKE SHOW HOES Posts: 25,768	Betemit is terrible. But he showed flashes hitting PH HR's. You don't know what you're gonna get with this guy. I'm glad he is gone.

07-31-2007, 06:32 PM	#2123
VonErichLives DU's illegitimate brother Posts: 3,685	the deal for Dye fell through... It's said they had a deal and then the White Sox wanted another top prospect thrown in... The sox still need another bat, especially with Papi needing to rest/heel... maybe Drew will get hot the last 2 months of the season... and maybe the sun will shine every day and no global warming and....

07-31-2007, 06:38 PM	#2124
Jesus Shuttlesworth Posts: 42,765	Garnett and Gagne WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW I'm also not that upset about the Dye thing falling through anyway, I wasn't really sold on him this year plus I would hate to see them give up a good pitching prospect for a half year rental

07-31-2007, 06:44 PM	#2125
Jesus Shuttlesworth Posts: 42,765	Actaully make that Garnett, Gagne, Okajima, Matsuzaka, Adalius Thomas, Randy Moss, Wes Welker and Dante Stallworth Some solid pick ups for Boston Sports (no mention of JD Drew)

07-31-2007, 06:58 PM	#2126
Adder A.W.O.L. Posts: 5,862	Yankees seem to be worried more about next year while Boston was going for it this year. Can't blame the Yankees, but I know their fans always expect them to make bold moves. As far as I'm concerned they're done for this year anyway, so it shows good judgment on Cashman's part not to go after a rental player and giving up a prospect or two. The Red Sox did the right thing. Even if Gabbard goes on to be a solid pitcher, Boston has a real shot at winning the WS this year.

07-31-2007, 07:04 PM	#2128
FakeLaser continental drift Posts: 46,731	There's no way the Yankees would rely on Betemit if A-Rod leaves. He's an improvement over Cairo though.

07-31-2007, 07:12 PM	#2129
Adder A.W.O.L. Posts: 5,862	Don't forget to look at it like this, FraZor By not brining in a rental guy (who you now feel compelled to try and resign) you leave a lot of money for ARod should he opt out and you're able to resign. If he does opt out and can't resign, you need to find a new 3B, you can toss a boatload of money at a Caberra (or whatever) without having more money invested in a rental player. Losing Proctor may open a spot up again for an Igawa or Hughes. I expect the Yankees will put Hughes and/or Igawa into the bullpen once the rosters expand.

07-31-2007, 07:37 PM	#2130
Dragon REALMENTE Posts: 11,271	Hughes is actually gonna be in the starting rotation I think. If he is an average pitcher the next couple months he would be a huge improvement over Igawa.

07-31-2007, 07:42 PM	#2131
Adder A.W.O.L. Posts: 5,862	I can see putting him in the starting rotation, but that would mean someone from the rotation would be dropping down, unless they are going to go with 5+ starters. ?? Anyway, it would serve him well to pitch long relief this year if they still consider themselves contenders. If they don't, might as well make him a starter and stress to him that the rest of this year is to get comfortable with starting. No need heaping a ton of pressure on the guy.

07-31-2007, 07:50 PM	#2132
Adder A.W.O.L. Posts: 5,862	Looks like Sammy Sosa has a real shot at reaching 100 RBIs. Who would have thought it. Don't think too many people (myself included) would have figured he'd have more RBIs than Ortiz or Manny at this stage of the season, or be 1 behind Pujols.

07-31-2007, 10:14 PM	#2135
ClockShot TPWW Fire Pro Champ Posts: 34,001	GODZILLA IS ON THE LOOSE!

07-31-2007, 08:41 PM	#2133
Dragon REALMENTE Posts: 11,271	He is just taking over Igawa's spot; I think Igawa was already sent down to AAA. He should have the stuff to be a decent #5 now. He doesn't even have to be very good to be better than Igawa.

07-31-2007, 10:10 PM	#2134
ClockShot TPWW Fire Pro Champ Posts: 34,001	Let's see. White Sox picked up Eric Gagne, Braves won the Mark Teixera lottery, Yankees are hitting dingers right now. WHAT THE HELL! DR. PROCTOR GETS TRADED! SOMEONE FILL ME IN!

07-31-2007, 10:20 PM	#2136
YOUR Hero Adminstigator Posts: 102,491	*Red Sox Matsui is having a quietly good year.

07-31-2007, 10:30 PM	#2137
Hanso Amore You can't teach that Posts: 19,337	for once NY doesnt make any moves and kept their future. They may have not gotten 30 games out of a crappy reliever (not much out there) but they guanteed that they have money for Arod (like that is an issue! ) and they kept the doors open for their young arms. Thy have the best young arms in the league and I just want to see them make it. Add in the Melk Man and cano, and the yanks have a good yougn core for the first time since Pettite/jeter and company started popping in.

07-31-2007, 10:39 PM	#2138
Innovator Inno Knows. Posts: 43,710	8 different Yankees have hit a home run, except Jeter and A-Rod

07-31-2007, 10:48 PM	#2139
ClockShot TPWW Fire Pro Champ Posts: 34,001	I was cracking up when the crowd booed Farnsworth when he got to the mound. This might be a late wakeup call to Cashman.

07-31-2007, 11:03 PM	#2142
mrslackalack Mr. Slack A Lack Jack! Posts: 4,390	This might be one of the best seasons ever for the stretch run for playoff spots considering how many divisions are in close races.

07-31-2007, 11:05 PM	#2143
Dragon REALMENTE Posts: 11,271	Only 3 back in the wildcard. Obviously sucked that the Red Sox improved in the deadline, but pretty happy the Indians stood pat.

07-31-2007, 11:19 PM	#2145
YOUR Hero Adminstigator Posts: 102,491	Dave Roberts (SF Giant player) is asking Dodger fans to be respectful of Barry Bonds if and when he hits his milesone HR in LA. LOL, ok, Dave.

07-31-2007, 11:20 PM	#2146
mrslackalack Mr. Slack A Lack Jack! Posts: 4,390	I think if the Yanks make the playoffs even if they go out again in the ALDS that Torre def deserves at least another season back after this rally they have made because it looked like they were completely out of it.

07-31-2007, 11:21 PM	#2147
mrslackalack Mr. Slack A Lack Jack! Posts: 4,390	LOL at Dave Roberts comments.

07-31-2007, 11:26 PM	#2148
mrslackalack Mr. Slack A Lack Jack! Posts: 4,390	BREAKING NEWS Following in Princes footsteps Barry Bonds is changing his name to a symbol. The symbol is **********************************************

07-31-2007, 11:32 PM	#2150
mrslackalack Mr. Slack A Lack Jack! Posts: 4,390	I meant the season in general for the Yanks considering they were 14 and a half back at the end of May and 10 at the ASB.

08-01-2007, 12:00 AM	#2152
mrslackalack Mr. Slack A Lack Jack! Posts: 4,390	I gotta say it again Hardcore you prolly have one of the best avatars out there.

08-01-2007, 12:02 AM	#2153
mrslackalack Mr. Slack A Lack Jack! Posts: 4,390	That is a great point Hardcore, A-Rod delivered about 4-5 comeback wins for the Yankees early in the season that could have dug them in a deeper hole.

08-01-2007, 12:13 AM	#2154
OssMan The Classic Dylan Staples Posts: 51,536	Milledge just saved the game in the 9th inning, time for him to high five the fans

08-01-2007, 12:20 AM	#2155
mrslackalack Mr. Slack A Lack Jack! Posts: 4,390	Milledge has some great potential.

08-01-2007, 04:36 AM	#2157
SammyG LAKE SHOW HOES Posts: 25,768	Yeah I like Dave Roberts as well, but his comments were ROFL. Wow Dodgers, you know what would be really cool? If you removed your fucking heads from your fucking asses and started winning again, FUCK.

08-01-2007, 07:02 AM	#2158
SammyG LAKE SHOW HOES Posts: 25,768	Bonds is either tying or breaking the record tommorrow. Hendrickson is pitching.

08-01-2007, 07:07 AM	#2159
SammyG LAKE SHOW HOES Posts: 25,768	oh, and after that it's Tomko. Definitely breaking the record in LA