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Old 07-15-2013, 09:56 PM   #1
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That could be said about any professional sport though. (unless that's your point)
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Cespedes is kind of good at hitting home runs.
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Also, good job America on showing why everyone still hates you.

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Ron the Dial thinks Chris Berman is wonderful during the all-star game.

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That's a pretty serious allegation. Don't say things you can't take back!





(in all seriousness though Berman is the absolute worst)
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Some of those Cespedes shots were fucking ridiculous.
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Steve Delabar's story is amazing.

Broke his elbow in 09
Out of baseball in 2010. Was a sub teacher and coach. Played a game of softball and gave it another shot.
2013 he's a friggen all star. Delabar, McGowan and Cecil all used the weighted ball system in the off season. Check out their ERA's. All under 2.
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According to the Players Union, none of the upcoming bannings related to the Biogenesis clinic will be served this year and instead will only start for next season. Main reason is the appeals and arbitrator decision is expected to take several months making any ban issued this year a bit useless in enforcement.

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Harvey hits Cano in the knee and Cano limps off the field.

Sorry Yankee fans.
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I normally like good pitching, but through 6 innings this is just boring as hell.
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Can we get a "Well, the NL is never winning one of these things again" post from Big Vito please
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I get Leyland's thinking for putting Mo in now...but come on.
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McCarver sounded high rattling off the lyrics to Enter Sandman.
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Astros secure home field advantage for the World Series. Lock it up.
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For the first time in years I didn't watch the AllStar game. And I don't feel that bad, actually.
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For the first time in years I did watch. Should I count it towards my total of games watched this year? I think that would bring the number to 7.
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Astros, Padres, and Cubs all had one rep make the All Star Team and none got into the actual game.

Oddly enough Bochy only used Posey from how own team. The other 3 Giants he had named to the team on his own (Bumgarner, Scutaro, and Romo) went unused, although Romo was warming up when Chapman appeared to be struggling.
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American League wins the All Star Game.

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I didn't watch the game either, but it wasn't for any lack of desire to or anything. Had PRIOR COMMITMENTS and was out of the house. Heard Prince got a triple though, woo!

It is funny to see Leyland mismanage his bullpen, even in the ASG. It's just like watching my Tigers play! Glad Mo got his recognition though, guy is a friggin' legend. So glad I got to see him pitch this season (first time), felt like that would've been a huge wasted opportunity if I never got the chance.
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I watched the whole thing but I did kinda stop caring after Harvey was done. When the NL had that huge losing streak I always watched to see if it would end, and the Mets have been right in contention in most of the years since they've rolled out the home field advantage rule so I always though "maybe it will help later" but this year they're so far out of it it doesn't really matter.

Glad Harvey pitched well and Wright got one of the few NL hits. Rivera was the highlight. I get why he was used in the 8th but still I kinda feel like Joe Nathan was reliable enough to not blow it in the 8th. I think if Greg Holland had put up a 1-2-3 inning in the 7th Leyland would have been comfortable enough using Nathan, Delabar, Cecil, etc to bridge the gap.

No matter, it was a great send off. It's no secret I hate the Yankees, but Mo is just insanely good at what he does and has never been anything less than a class act.
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Glad I missed the game. Completely forgot about it. Did watch some of the Derby though, which was probably more entertaining.
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Uhhh if Yankees somehow scrape into a playoff spot this year Girardi should 100% be MotY (no offense to Francona or Farrell)
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I think Francona has the inside track, at the moment. Farrell shouldn't even be considered. He was given a team that featured Mike Napoli, Jacoby Ellsbury, Dustin Pedroia, Clay Buccholz, John Lester and David Ortiz. All sorts of talent on that roster.

Really, there's no real competition at the moment in the AL after Francona and Girardi.

If the Dodgers make the playoffs, I can see the narrative being spun into Donny baseball "saving his job" and galvanizing a ridiculously talented and expensive team into winning. Which would be dumb.

Clint Hurdle's a shoe in if the Pirates finish with a winning record. That team is near or at the bottom of damn near every statistical offensive category, and are getting ridiculous career years out Jeff Locke and Fransisco Liriano, on top of using the shit out of their bullpen. They finish above .500, it's Hurdle.
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I think Francona has the inside track, at the moment. Farrell shouldn't even be considered. He was given a team that featured Mike Napoli, Jacoby Ellsbury, Dustin Pedroia, Clay Buccholz, John Lester and David Ortiz. All sorts of talent on that roster.

Really, there's no real competition at the moment in the AL after Francona and Girardi.

If the Dodgers make the playoffs, I can see the narrative being spun into Donny baseball "saving his job" and galvanizing a ridiculously talented and expensive team into winning. Which would be dumb.

Clint Hurdle's a shoe in if the Pirates finish with a winning record. That team is near or at the bottom of damn near every statistical offensive category, and are getting ridiculous career years out Jeff Locke and Fransisco Liriano, on top of using the shit out of their bullpen. They finish above .500, it's Hurdle.
Disagree with the Farrell part since he's done a great job in revitalizing the pitching which has been a huge sore spot for the Red Sox the past few years. They were predicted to finish dead last this year in the AL East and instead have the best record so far.

He's the same as Giradi where you consider them as options but shouldn't win it in the end. Giradi has just as much star power on his team but just so happens they are performing worse than last year. To give Giradi the award and not consider Farrell as a legit choice for doing the same would be a pretty bad decision.

Right now I think the real race is between Francona, Bob Melvin, and Joe Maddon for the AL.
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I dunno, Dale Sveum has had nothing but shit on a plate. Shouldn't he win just for being forced to have Luis Valbuena hit leadoff this year or Joe Mather hitting third last year?

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So happy Cecil and Delabar got into the game and both struckout their batters. I think Leyland recognized that this will probably be their one and only all-star game.
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Whoever wins the World Series should be manager of the year. A couple of years ago when the Cards played the Brewers, I thought for sure the Brewers were going to win. They had the better team. Then LaRussa ran circles around Roenoke. I used to subscribe to the view that the managers don't really win games until I saw that series. Now I think they're quite important in the playoffs.
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Whoever wins the World Series should be manager of the year. A couple of years ago when the Cards played the Brewers, I thought for sure the Brewers were going to win. They had the better team. Then LaRussa ran circles around Roenoke. I used to subscribe to the view that the managers don't really win games until I saw that series. Now I think they're quite important in the playoffs.
Manager of the Year is about the regular season not the playoffs.
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Managerial move that stands out was Lou Pinella around 2009 I wanna say. Cards had lefty, righty, lefty due up and Lou only had one lefty in the pen (Sean Marshal). So he brings Marshal in for the first batter, then pulls his leftfielder and moves Marshal out into left while he brings in another reliever, then puts Marshal back to pitch and brings in a normal position player in left for the third batter.

I dunno, you don't see that everyday so its always stuck out. Sounds like something Ozzie Guillen doesn't even know he can do.
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The baseball players' association may not go to bat for every player involved in Major League Baseball's latest drug investigation.
Union head Michael Weiner told the New York Daily News that the MLBPA is "not interested" in protecting players for whom overwhelming evidence exists that they used performance-enhancing drugs.

Although he did not refer to any specific players in his interview Wednesday with the Daily News, Weiner emphasized that the union has prioritized a clean program. He told the paper that the union will attempt to "make a deal" for players with overwhelming PED evidence against them.

"I can tell you, if we have a case where there really is overwhelming evidence that a player committed a violation of the program, our fight is going to be that they make a deal," Weiner told the Daily News. "We're not interested in having players with overwhelming evidence that they violated the [drug] program out there. Most of the players aren't interested in that. We'd like to have a clean program."

Former MVPs Alex Rodriguez and Ryan Braun are among the more than one dozen players under investigation for ties to Biogenesis, a closed anti-aging clinic in Florida linked with the distribution of performance-enhancing drugs. MLB officials have been interviewing players, who have been represented by the union and their own lawyers.

ESPN's "Outside the Lines" has reported that Rodriguez and as many as 20 other players are expected to be suspended for their relationship to Biogenesis founder Anthony Bosch, who allegedly provided performance-enhancing drugs to the players. Rodriguez has denied the allegations.
Weiner said Tuesday that any suspensions resulting from the Biogenesis investigation likely won't be served until 2014, if the discipline is challenged before an arbitrator. He said he expects MLB to present its findings to the union "within the next month."

Weiner also said the commissioner's office isn't bound by the terms of the joint drug prevention and treatment program -- which calls for 50- and 100-game suspensions followed by a lifetime ban for three failed drug tests -- because the players involved in the Biogenesis case did not fail tests and are being investigated for "non-analytical" reasons.

"In theory, [the players] could be suspended for five games or 500 games, and we could then choose to challenge that," Weiner said Tuesday before the All-Star Game. "The commissioner's office is not bound by the scale we have in the basic agreement."

Weiner also told the Daily News that some grievances, including those involving PEDs, are settled privately before a suspension is publicly announced. He hopes that MLB will adhere to that procedure in the Biogenesis case.

"This is a somewhat new situation, but some of those grievances have been disciplinary grievances as well," Weiner told the Daily News. "They just don't get the play that the Biogenesis case did."

Weiner also said symptoms have increased in the last month from a brain tumor he was diagnosed with last summer. He currently can't move his right side or right arm and must use a wheelchair.

Weiner said the union will appoint a deputy executive director within a week or two.
This is huge, imo.
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I understand, just saying in my mind that's who the manager of the year is.
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