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Old 08-01-2007, 11:05 AM   #2161
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Shit. The Mets' 13th inning loss to the Brewers was only their first walk-off loss of the season. Pretty crazy.

Bad symbolism though that the bullpen blew it on a day where Omar couldn't land Cordero.
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Old 08-01-2007, 12:13 PM   #2162
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Next question because that one was stupid.


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Old 08-01-2007, 05:22 PM   #2163
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Old 08-01-2007, 05:39 PM   #2164
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Yeah Santanna is going to leave Minnesota after this year. I'll cream my pants if he comes to Detroit.
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Old 08-01-2007, 05:50 PM   #2165
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LA would be a perfect fit for him.
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Old 08-01-2007, 06:00 PM   #2166
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Wonder how much it would take to get Johan, since he still has a year under contract.
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Old 08-01-2007, 06:16 PM   #2167
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If Zambrano gets $120 million this offseason Santana's contract is gonna be insane. I bet he could get $200 million if he was stubborn enough.
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Old 08-01-2007, 07:36 PM   #2170
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Old 08-01-2007, 08:28 PM   #2171
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yeah, and I'll tattoo a tigers logo on my forehead (ok, I won't actually, but I'd consider it).

My guess is...

His short list (place that can afford him)

New York Yankees
Boston Red Sox
California Angels
LA Dodgers
and if Cuban buys the Cubs.

That's the wild Card, if Cuban buys the cubs and he's not in a sport with no salary cap... I wouldn't be shocked to see him get A-rod this off-season and Santana next.

If you factor the Cubs out.

I'd see A-rod going to the Angels and Santana a bidding war between the Red Sox and Yanks with the Yanks winning because at that time I think they'll need him more then the Red Sox will.

Dodgers could be a good fit, but not sure if he'd want to go to the NL.
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Old 08-01-2007, 09:47 PM   #2173
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Old 08-01-2007, 10:02 PM   #2176
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yeah, and I'll tattoo a tigers logo on my forehead (ok, I won't actually, but I'd consider it).

My guess is...

His short list (place that can afford him)

New York Yankees
Boston Red Sox
California Angels
LA Dodgers
and if Cuban buys the Cubs.

That's the wild Card, if Cuban buys the cubs and he's not in a sport with no salary cap... I wouldn't be shocked to see him get A-rod this off-season and Santana next.

If you factor the Cubs out.

I'd see A-rod going to the Angels and Santana a bidding war between the Red Sox and Yanks with the Yanks winning because at that time I think they'll need him more then the Red Sox will.

Dodgers could be a good fit, but not sure if he'd want to go to the NL.
Hmmm.

Rangers
Mets
Phillies
Astros
Braves

all jump to mind as well. Santana would be the kind of player a lot of teams would invest in. In fact I wouldn't rule many teams out.
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Old 08-01-2007, 10:37 PM   #2177
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Old 08-01-2007, 10:43 PM   #2178
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Not so sure what Santana is thinking, BTW. It's not like Castillio is what he once was in terms of an offensive player. His comments are out of line.

Jeeze

I hate to think what he's going to say when the Twins lose Torii Hunter.
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No #500 for A-Rod tonight.

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yeah, and I'll tattoo a tigers logo on my forehead (ok, I won't actually, but I'd consider it).

My guess is...

His short list (place that can afford him)

New York Yankees
Boston Red Sox
California Angels
LA Dodgers
and if Cuban buys the Cubs.

That's the wild Card, if Cuban buys the cubs and he's not in a sport with no salary cap... I wouldn't be shocked to see him get A-rod this off-season and Santana next.

If you factor the Cubs out.

I'd see A-rod going to the Angels and Santana a bidding war between the Red Sox and Yanks with the Yanks winning because at that time I think they'll need him more then the Red Sox will.

Dodgers could be a good fit, but not sure if he'd want to go to the NL.
As much as I'd like Santana I don't know if we really need him per sey.We have got a lot guys in our minor leagues that could turn out great. Our 2009 5 man rotation might be something like this......

1. Hughes

2. Wang

3. Chamberlain

4. Kennedy

5. Horne

If you ask me that seems like a pretty sick five man rotation if Kennedy, Horne and Chamberlain are as good as people say they are. But adding Santana would be nice if we don't overpay for him. I say if he doesn't settle for a 4 or 5 year contract we should let him walk. But from the way I see it Johan really isn't a needed tool we have to have in our lineup he's a great pitcher and I'd love to have him pitch on the Yankees and He would help extreamly. But we shouldn't overspend for him. I'm more worried about Boston getting Santana then of Santana not coming to the Yankees. Maybe we could take Santana just so Boston can't have him.

It's rumored that's one of the reasons Boston got Dice-K and Gagne to keep them away from the Yankees.

And A-rod on the Angels? Might I just say ....... . Other then the Red Sox getting A-Rod nothing scares me more then this. The Angels basically own the Yankees year in year out. The last thing we need is to be owned by them even more if A-rod joins. I hope A-rod stays right where he is.
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I see Johan as a Yankee

1. He will get a huge contract from them
2. Team Prestige
3. Legit shot at a ring every season
4. The current starting rotation is aged (Pettite, Clemens, Mussina) and Pavanos days as a Yankee are prolly over. Johan along with Hughes, Wang and prolly some other good pitchers would make a solid rotation for the Yanks
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Old 08-02-2007, 12:41 AM   #2186
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Skip Bayless and Pat Forde talked about something interesting today. They mentioned how the milestones of this season has overshadowed some of the best division races ever.
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Old 08-02-2007, 12:48 AM   #2189
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Its interesting that when Glavine gets his 300th career win, that only Randy Johnson (if he dont retire and stays healthy) is the only other pitcher that can reach that milestone (hes 16 wins away from 300) Down the list nobody else does not even have 250 yet so unless the Big Unit does it there wont be one for a while after Glavine does it.
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I believe Forde said that he felt 500 HR wasnt a milestone no more either
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Nothing against Biggio, but when he makes the 3000 hit club, it makes you think that while it is an accomplishment, it definitely does not equal a Hall of Fame Career, and its not such an amazing number. He was an average player for 20 years, no injuries, very durable, piling stats. Big Hurt hitting 500 isnt that bad, as he was the best offensive player of the 90s (He and Griffey). 2 time MVP and while is older and tailed off, I think his earlier dominance has been forgotten, so 500 just re-assures his place in history. \

Honestly, the next 300 game winner will be in 15 years, when yougn guys on top teams start retiring. 300 is an amazing number.
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I see Johan as a Yankee

1. He will get a huge contract from them
2. Team Prestige
3. Legit shot at a ring every season
4. The current starting rotation is aged (Pettite, Clemens, Mussina) and Pavanos days as a Yankee are prolly over. Johan along with Hughes, Wang and prolly some other good pitchers would make a solid rotation for the Yanks
I hope you're right. I have seen about 3 or 4 people this Year as Yankees but didn't become one. First, it was Zito I really thought he had a chance as a Yankee, then I thought Dice-K would be a Yankee, and then I thought Gagne would be a Yankee.

So right now I'm just gonna say I hope you're right. How old is Santana? He can't be any younger then 26 I don't think. By the time we sign him as a free agent he'll be 27 or 28. I'm just hoping we don't give him a Mosterous Zito type contract.
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Santana will be 28 this offseason...29 next offseason when he's a FA

The one thing teams will have going for them in trying to get Zambrano this year and Santana next year is that Scott Boras isn't their agents.

tbh I'd LOVE the Mets to get either of them but they'd have to completely load the deals. I'm pretty sure they don't want to ever offer more than 4 years for a pitcher (5 years at absolute max)...so it'd have to be something like 4 years, $100 mil
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Hmmm.

Rangers
Mets
Phillies
Astros
Braves

all jump to mind as well. Santana would be the kind of player a lot of teams would invest in. In fact I wouldn't rule many teams out.
I don't think all those teams would commit 200mil, also it would have to be a team he feels is ready to win it all... so I'd take the Rangers off the list and the Astros possible also.

Would he want to go to the NL? dunno...

Side note: It's being reported the YES network is for sale, if that happens you may see the Yanks out of the running... I wouldn't be shocked if they blow the team up and try and get young and cheap, don't forget that new stadium is going to cost them over 1.2 BILLION!

Which is why I think they're selling the Yes network, that and 2 of the 3 owners say they want to cash out, it's reported they'll get around 3billion for the network, which leaves 1bil to each owner and the yankees can move into their new stadium with it already almost completely paid for.

Also, word is steinbrenner is sick and his youngest son Hal is running things, he may take more of a business approach?

It will be interesting to see what happens.
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I don't think all those teams would commit 200mil, also it would have to be a team he feels is ready to win it all... so I'd take the Rangers off the list and the Astros possible also.

Would he want to go to the NL? dunno...

Side note: It's being reported the YES network is for sale, if that happens you may see the Yanks out of the running... I wouldn't be shocked if they blow the team up and try and get young and cheap, don't forget that new stadium is going to cost them over 1.2 BILLION!

Which is why I think they're selling the Yes network, that and 2 of the 3 owners say they want to cash out, it's reported they'll get around 3billion for the network, which leaves 1bil to each owner and the yankees can move into their new stadium with it already almost completely paid for.

Also, word is steinbrenner is sick and his youngest son Hal is running things, he may take more of a business approach?

It will be interesting to see what happens.
I think they might still be in the running. Over those 2 years the Yankees are losing a lot of guys. I believe Abreu, Damon, Pavano, Giambi, Mussina, Clemens, Pettitate And maybe a few more by that time all their contracts are up. That free's up some money. I really think the Yankees have a running at this. And even more of a running if let's say A-rod goes to the cubs or another team.
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Rangers are free spending that's why I added them, plus the fact they traded away salaries this off season. I think Santana would pitch in either league no question asked. In fact I'd like to hear your explanation for even mentioning that.
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Yeah if anything Santana would probably prefer to go to an NL team because any staff that adds him can instantly become a favorite
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