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Old 05-29-2004, 01:27 PM   #2201
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See last year we replaced the "if we win promotion" to "when..."
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Old 05-29-2004, 01:30 PM   #2202
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When we win promotion, this is what we'll sing, we are Portsmouth, we are Portsmouth, Harry is our king

Well done Palace. Simon Jordan is still a cunt though.
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Hey Rob, remember when you were losing 2-0 to Crystal Palace at Selhurst Park and Jordan tapped Milan on the shoulder at half time and said "we'll see how good Harry is now, wont we?" and in the second half you went on and won 3-2 and Milan tapped him on the shoulder and said "Harry did okay, didnt he?"
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yeah and all 3 goals were scored in like a 5 minute and they were all scored by defenders
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Simon Jordan is a cunt, but I don't care.

We are palace we are Palace of the premier league
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West Ham should have had a stone wall penalty.

Poll is another petty ref. Misses blatant decisions but he'll book you for kicking the ball away everytime. It seemed like he had that yellow card in his hand for the last 25 minutes of the match.

Alan Pardew is so tactically naive that it's not funny. He should resign immediately. Palace will be rock bottom next season with the least amount of points any team in the Premiership has ever had.
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im not gonna make any predictions until I see who everyone buys.

Last season everyone said we'd struggle but we managed to stay up because we bought well, we'd probably have done better if we hadn't had such shitty luck with all our squad getting sick/injured/dying at the same time.

So if they buy right, they could stay up.
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West Ham should have had a stone wall penalty.

Poll is another petty ref. Misses blatant decisions but he'll book you for kicking the ball away everytime. It seemed like he had that yellow card in his hand for the last 25 minutes of the match.

Alan Pardew is so tactically naive that it's not funny. He should resign immediately. Palace will be rock bottom next season with the least amount of points any team in the Premiership has ever had.
Yeah I never liked Poll, and booking Etherington and Routledge, when what Etherington did was clearly worse shows how inconsistand Poll is. Him and Halsey are the worse two refs in England.

Also, like RBF said, before making predictions its always good to see who teams sign.
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Yeah,that did look like it was a penalty.

I said about Pardew being overrated,West Ham easily have the best squad in the division and playing Harewood out wide is very stupid.Also taking off all 3 forwards today was wrong,whether they'd done much or not i'd certainly rather have Deane knocking balls down for someone like Connolly than Hutchison.
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Rio Coker played well though.
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wish we'd signed Reo Coker and McAnuff when we had the chance. But Franchise's adminsitrators started pissing about and it collapsed. McAnuff would've been great cover for Stone.
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Yeah,that did look like it was a penalty.

I said about Pardew being overrated,West Ham easily have the best squad in the division and playing Harewood out wide is very stupid.Also taking off all 3 forwards today was wrong,whether they'd done much or not i'd certainly rather have Deane knocking balls down for someone like Connolly than Hutchison.
I disagree with that last thing. Pardew was nuts to sub two strikers for a midfielder and striker like Deane because it made them totally one dimensional at that point. Palace knew it would be long ball after long ball and they weren't troubled. They should have brought on Hutchison earlier and went for it at the point they were a goal down. Hutchison had a 1 in 2 average for Scotland at one point from midfield and he has quality (injuries too mind you). Put him up with Zamora, Connelly and Harewood (they probably could have sacrificed him for Reo Coker) and you have options and if you get the goal, he can easy drop back into midfield and you still have shape.
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When Pardew subbed Zamora,Harewood and Connelly I was thinking does he want Palace to win, cause that was the worse tactical decision i have seen since Claudio Ranieri in the champions league semi final and yes it should have been a penalty but Palace got lucky, the sort of luck you need to win play off games.
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I disagree with that last thing. Pardew was nuts to sub two strikers for a midfielder and striker like Deane because it made them totally one dimensional at that point. Palace knew it would be long ball after long ball and they weren't troubled. They should have brought on Hutchison earlier and went for it at the point they were a goal down. Hutchison had a 1 in 2 average for Scotland at one point from midfield and he has quality (injuries too mind you). Put him up with Zamora, Connelly and Harewood (they probably could have sacrificed him for Reo Coker) and you have options and if you get the goal, he can easy drop back into midfield and you still have shape.
Deane just wins most headers and was great for us last year.I'm not saying that they shouldn't have bought Hutchison on,just that maybe sacrifice a defender instead.I think if you're gonna put Deane on,then you'll need a fairly quick player alongside him,and although he can be good with his feet and in the air,Hutchison isn't that fast anymore.
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I see your point. Just would never have brought Deane on.
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I see your point. Just would never have brought Deane on.
I'm happy he came on, can't wait to see my beloved Palace in the premier league. Everybody knows we're coming back down but we got to try our best to stay up.
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I see your point. Just would never have brought Deane on.
prob only bought him on to give him a farewell to the fans.

i liked him when we had him but then again think he was past his best when we signed him, we should have signed him the season he scored the equaliser for leeds on last day of season to relegate us. since then he's not been as good.

padrew should have left it as it was, they just had two goals disalowed and were on top of them so what do you do, i know and think it went like this:

padrew: hey dowie i bet you a tenner i can throw this game
dowie : your on
padrew : ref sub im taking my strike force off
dowie : god damn you to hell padrew here have your f**kin tenner, ill tell you what ill make it £20 if you take that twat connelly off he's playing well
padrew : ref sub, david your off, don go on and dont touch the ball ok
hutchinson : ok gaffer
dowie : heres your other tenner

*dowie leaves smilng to him self as may have lost £20 but realises will get a good bous for making his boses £30 million*

*padrew looks like this , o yeh bye dowie ill see you next season*

*dowie - *

well i think it went something like that anyway
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It wasn't a penalty, the guy got the ball before the man
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It wasn't a penalty, the guy got the ball before the man
No way.
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No way.
Just so I know, as I didn't watch the whole game, this is the Leigertwood tackle right? Because you can clearly see he gets the ball first.
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Dunno who made the challenge but Carrick went down on the inner edge of the box. No ball taken. Clearly chopped his ankle.
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I'm a Crystal Palace supporter and I think it should have been a penalty, Thank You Graham Poll
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I really must of been watching a different game, because I clearly saw Leigertwood touch the ball first
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Good for Palace, Alan Pardew is an arrogant little cunt who thinks he's hot stuff for taking good teams other people have built and getting them into the playoffs (not just West Ham but Reading also). Yes he's bought a few players but the basis of West Ham's team was there before he got there, with that squad they should've won Div 1 by a country mile. Now they're going to have to sell at least Carrick and they'll struggle to make the playoffs next year by my reckoning.
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I agree 100% with that. With Defoe, Carrick, James, Repka, Conolly, Reo Coker and Harewood (okay, some of them arent premiership quality, but they're more than good enough for Div 1) they should've been challenging West Brom and Norwich.

Had Pardew stayed with Reading he would probably have done better than he did with West Ham, by leaving Reading he unsettled them and pretty much fucked up their season.

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Just seen that penalty incident again,the defender did sort of brushed the ball but it wasn't clear contact with it,so it probably was a penalty.Palace defended well enough to have earnt the win though.
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I dont think he did, and even if he did it was AFTER the contact with the player.
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I dont think he did, and even if he did it was AFTER the contact with the player.
Nah it was before,but he was going for the player anyway,he may claim to have been going for the ball but he slid in a different direction so still a penalty.

Doesn't really matter though.
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He wants to play in London, and not for a small club before Spurs get too excited.

In other words, he wants to play for Arsenal or Chelsea.
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He always has. I don't know why he keeps harping on about it, Arsenal would've shown some interest in the past 5 or so seasons since we tried to sign him and he said he'd rather play for them.

That was comedy though, he turns us down, we win the treble
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Just seen that penalty incident again,the defender did sort of brushed the ball but it wasn't clear contact with it,so it probably was a penalty.Palace defended well enough to have earnt the win though.
You kidding? He caught 100% pure ankle.
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You kidding? He caught 100% pure ankle.
Well whether the ball was played against him or not it certainly brushed against him but like i say he seemed more intent on playing the man,so still a penalty.

Just checking from Sid's stance.
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ITV teletext has its main story thing as Queiroz(sp?) heading back to Man United.
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I've read in more than one place you're signing Gabriel Heinze from PSG for £6m, Argentinian international, sounds similar to O'Shea in that he can play centre or left back.
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yeah i think it's pretty much a done deal now with heinze, he sounds pretty good, but i've never heard of him before now.
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Well whether the ball was played against him or not it certainly brushed against him but like i say he seemed more intent on playing the man,so still a penalty.

Just checking from Sid's stance.
He brushed the ball first, I'm fairly certain of that
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