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Old 05-29-2010, 01:55 AM   #1
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Old 05-29-2010, 02:02 AM   #2
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Yea the Celtics got tons of national media attention outside of Boston before 2008...
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Patriots were a huge national franchise in the Drew Bledsoe era....
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EVERYONE loved the Red Sox when Brian Daubach was batting cleanup....
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Wasn't there something invloving a curse that was mentioned every fucking day?

Or did I dream that?
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What about some guy name Nomar? Wasn't he the Jesus christ of the red sox that got insane media hype?

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What about some guy name Nomar? Wasn't he the Jesus christ of the red sox that got insane media hype?

Or did I dream that to?
Comparing Nomar to Lebron James in any way shape or form is assinine. Every city has a star athlete regardless of their teams performances. That doesn't make them even close to the same thing
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The Red Sox baseball curse is an overexposed NBA athlete?

Oh wait, it's something involving an entire franchise in another sport. It has nothing to do with what we're talking about.
Even still, it wasn't talked about on a national level unless something major happened involving it, or you were watching a show about baseball history.
The Red Sox weren't overblown the way they are until 2004
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The curse was overexposed was it not?
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Next I'm gonna hear about how unfair it is that Brady is a bigger star than Donovan McNabb
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Next I'm gonna hear about how unfair it is that Brady is a bigger star than Donovan McNabb
Why would I say this? I'm pretty sure I've said bad things about Mcnabb plenty of times.

I have no problem admiting Tom Brady is a bigger star than #5.


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The curse is something that had a sports history dating back 86 years before it got snapped. It was tremendously overexposed after 1986, and then again in 2004. Both of those things involved championship games though. That's a national story.
Yes, it was a major sports story but did you really hear that much about it before 2004? Only if you were watching a countdown of heartbreaking sports moments. It was a part of baseball culture, not front page news week in week out.
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I don't recall hearing about where the curse might be signing in the offseason, or whether or not Delonte West was banging it's mom
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I guess the reason that I don't understand everybody getting so furious at this LeBron thing is that it's not like it's some crazy outlandish claim to say that he's the best in the league. A more suiting term would definitely be "arguably one of the best" but it isn't like they're trying to peg some B player as the face of the company or anything.

I will agree with the fact that they shouldn't be trying to really peg anybody as the face of the NBA, but it IS a business.
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I'm just use to a parade of various complaints about Boston sports, that may take different forms but usually are rooted in just flat out resentment of the past decade of winning.
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I'm just use to a parade of various complaints about Boston sports, that may take different forms but usually are rooted in just flat out resentment of the past decade of winning.
This isn't true at all. Good for Boston they won all those titles. The teams were really good, and deserved to the win them. I have no problem with that. I even like the Patriots. So no that's not true.

I resent Boston fans, Laker fans, New York fans(primarily Yankee fans), and Cowboys fans is because they feel like a World Championship is there birthright. Once you feel entitled to something that's where all the problems start.
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I resent Boston fans, Laker fans, New York fans(primarily Yankee fans), and Cowboys fans is because they feel like a World Championship is there birthright. Once you feel entitled to something that's where all the problems start.
thats a real generalization there. Ive been a Laker fan all my life, but the problem with people like Wadding is they talk down to Laker fans for having faith in their team.

Sure, some fans (see the Bandwagoners discussed earlier) can be annoying, but there are more Laker/Boston fans who see the game for what it is than you think.

Just because i feel the Lakers will win the championship doesnt mean im cocky, it means they had the best record, they are my team, and i will have faith in them until the final buzzer sounds, regardless of the outcome.

The difference, NBA wise, is that The Lakers have played in almost half the NBA championships in NBA history, so clearly youre gonna hear alot of a team so consistent with making it to the big game.

And anyone with sports history knows that the Celts have the most titles with 17, and the Lakers with 15. So if you base your hatred off championship success, i can see why you would hate the franchises listed, because they are consistintly (with Cowboys being the exception) competing heavily for a title.

As for the fans, the true fans...any real fan of any sports franchise will always have faith in their team. I have friends who are die hard Raider fans, and while i cant stand the 'Raider Nation', i applaud them for being so proud, no matter where there team is in the standings.
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thats a real generalization there. Ive been a Laker fan all my life, but the problem with people like Wadding is they talk down to Laker fans for having faith in their team.
There is having faith in your team, and then there is anointing them Finals bound after two games.
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To be fair, I hate the ESPNs and David Sterns of the world more than Lebron.
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To be fair, I hate the ESPNs and David Sterns of the world more than Lebron.
Also this...

Is it Lebron's fault that he is so good that every team in the NBA wants him?

Why does all this backlash come on Lebron? Same with Brett Favre? It's the media's fault and who ever else controls those things for doing it, but yet they feel the brunt of it.
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I don't feel that way at all. Years of losing makes it the opposite, and it seems to be even more that way for people like my father who've been around longer.
There are people like that, but they're probably the inevitable bandwagon fans that come with the titles, and they're always louder and obnoxious anyways.
Half of them are just there to get drunk and post pics on facebook anyways.
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I don't feel that way at all. Years of losing makes it the opposite, and it seems to be even more that way for people like my father who've been around longer.
There are people like that, but they're probably the inevitable bandwagon fans that come with the titles, and they're always louder and obnoxious anyways.
Half of them are just there to get drunk and post pics on facebook anyways.
Boston doesn't have years of losing though. They were one of the winning-est cities even before the decade(2000-2010).
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I don't feel that way at all. Years of losing makes it the opposite, and it seems to be even more that way for people like my father who've been around longer.
There are people like that, but they're probably the inevitable bandwagon fans that come with the titles, and they're always louder and obnoxious anyways.
Half of them are just there to get drunk and post pics on facebook anyways.
Boston doesn't have years of losing though. They were one of the winning-est cities even before the decade(2000-2010).
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The way they thrive on it is awful. Particularly Favre.

But I never said Lebron wasn't a great player or that I thought he was a bad person. I said I'm sick and tired of hearing about him, considering what he's done and more importantly what he hasn't done.
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Well the teams were often winning in the sense that they were above .500, but the Patriots hadn't ever won a title, the Red Sox hadn't won in 86 years, and the Celts and Bruins hadn't won since 72 and 86 respectively.
That isn't anything above most cities. It was pretty standard.
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Teams occasionally made the playoffs too, but never went anywhere. It wasn't all "losing" teams but they were years of losing in the sense that ultimately nothing was won and the teams were just good enough to get some scattered hopes up, but never win.
Even a city like Cleveland had The Indians going to the world series and deep into the post season often. I wouldn't call them winners in the 90s. Detroit has always had the Pistons and Red Wings, but look at the Tigers and Lions.
What I meant to say was, Boston never won big or had anything over most other cities (besides history) in my lifetime, until 2002 onwards.
This decade it's this big powerhouse that everyone else in the country hates for some reason or another. Eventually it will change and we'll see a dry spell again.
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I hope the wizards get john wall. My 2nd team (Celtics) are gonna pummel the lakers if they get to the ship....and my 3rd team (Suns) aint going out like that......FUCK DA LAKERS
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Dunno what to say. Everyone on the Lakers finally started making the shots they'd missed against the zone. That's it. I'm proud of the Suns. I didn't think at the start of this season that they would be here at this point. They came on strong down the stretch, and the combination of the Lakers and the refs brought them down. But they scrapped all the way and the took the Lakers to the final minute of Game 6.
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Also I don't know if it would have mattered, but Jared Dudley should have been on the court there in the final minutes.
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