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Old 07-19-2010, 05:47 PM   #1
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Devils resigning Kovalchuk to a 17 year deal which means Devils won't stop paying him until he's around 44-45 years old.

I think Islanders and another 1-2 teams have these long contracts as well but they did it when their players had less NHL years played than Kovalchuk.
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Old 07-19-2010, 09:30 PM   #2
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Also, FA, I'm so sick and tired of people using that stupid arguement about Brodeur because you could use that on anything player "Would Gretzky have scored 92 goals if he were on the Hartford Whalers?" Brodeur has watched Scott Stevens, Scott Nidermayer, Brian Rafalski all leave and still be successful. Every year analysts say before the year that this is the year that the Devils suck and it never happens.
He hasnt seen the trap system leave is my argument, I am not denouncing any of his accomplishments, he is an amazing goalie

But...

Can you say Niklas Backstrom strived when the trap system was removed in Minny? Thats all I am saying.

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Devils resigning Kovalchuk to a 17 year deal which means Devils won't stop paying him until he's around 44-45 years old.

I think Islanders and another 1-2 teams have these long contracts as well but they did it when their players had less NHL years played than Kovalchuk.
Lou lost his fucking mind.
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Old 07-20-2010, 03:07 PM   #3
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The goals scored in 80's would never happen in today's NHL. There were some horrible goaltenders in that era.
 
Old 07-20-2010, 04:14 PM   #4
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Which is strange considering back in the 20s, 30s and 40s there were goalies without facemasks and huge equipment putting up better numbers.
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Old 07-20-2010, 05:10 PM   #5
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It goes in waves. Goalies were putting up huge numbers, which led to improved sticks and forwards, which caused a huge spike in scoring, until the goalies increased their equipment size to cut that down.
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I remember reading in an issue of the THN recently that goalie equipemnt will be proportionate to their body. Will make some goalies have alot smaller pads.

If this goes the way I think it will, we could possibly see a 76+ goal scorer again.
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Old 07-20-2010, 09:40 PM   #7
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Teams systems will prevent that. It'll never happen. Goalies are better these days as well.
 
Old 07-20-2010, 10:23 PM   #8
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While I kind of agree with FA, I more lean in gerts way.

Mika, Miller, Tuuka, Bryzgalov, Vakoun, Backstrom, Halak, brodeur etc would be all time greats in the 80s...todays goalies have arguably never been better in history.

hasek is the still the greatest all time (just had to add that in gerts )
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Old 07-20-2010, 11:00 PM   #9
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Roy is the greatest of all-time. Him or Brodeur.
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Old 07-20-2010, 11:45 PM   #11
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I am a Canadiens fan and even I would say that Hasek is the best in NHL History. Roy is a very very close second and Brodeur is a goal line behind Roy.

My reasoning is

Hasek played on a mediocre team at best and put up amazing consistent numbers over years.

Roy could hav had top spot had he continued in Montreal instead of playing on a stacked team in Colorado, like I said though the top 3 goalies are very interchangable.

Brodeur, while an amazing goalie has always played in a trap system, its hard to judge him because of that. Put him where Roy was in 1993 and see if he could pull it off. If he could, Ill shut up.

Again, the difference is so little between the three that there isnt much to debate anyways.
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Kovalchuk contract rejected by NHL!!!!

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The National Hockey League has rejected Ilya Kovalchuk's 17-year, $102-million US contract with the New Jersey Devils.

A source told The Canadian Press late Tuesday that the contract was rejected because it circumvents the league's salary cap.

The deal, which was made official by both sides Tuesday, would pay the Russian sniper $95 million in the first 10 years with the final $7 million to be paid during the last seven years.

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I know no one here probably gives a damn, but the US Hockey Hall of Fame announced its inductee's http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=534794
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AS soon as the NHL started penalizing the clutch and grab stuff, Hatcher was done. He was only as good as he was because of the type of hockey the NHL started to allow.
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Frolov to NYR and Poni to LA for the same amount as Frolov is getting in New York.

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Just trade Jordan Staal for a good top 6 winger.

I dont know how they havent done that already.
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While it is the smart thing to do, I'd hate to see Staal in any other jersey
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At LodownM - Staal would get an immense return, the guy puts up 50 points on the fucking third line. On any other team he would at absolute worst be a second line center. I could easily see him at 85 points on another team with proper wingers for skillset.

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At LodownM - Staal would get an immense return, the guy puts up 50 points on the fucking third line. On any other team he would at absolute worst be a second line center. I could easily see him at 85 points on another team with proper wingers for skillset.
Well he's never actually broke 50 points, 49 two years in a row, but I get what you're saying. I just don't see him getting that huge of a return in the salary cap era. Maybe 1 winger and a rookie and draft pick. But then again if it wasn't the salary cap era, the Pens would be broke from stacking the team.
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49 or 50, you are splitting hairs bud. A good winger to play with Crosby or Malkin, a decent winger rookie and a 2nd-4th round pick.

That would be an excellent trade.

The way I see Staals current situation is like eric staal being moved to the third line on Detroit with Datsyuk and Zberg ahead of him. He would put up alot less points for his skill level.
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Why would the Blackhawks not pay Niemi $2.75 million and then pay Marty Turco $1.5 million?

I guess the good news for Niemi is he's gonna make a hell of a lot more than $2.75 as a free agent.
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Holy fucking shit.

Wow.
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Guess the Blackhawks don't want to repeat.
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You think they would of with all the trades and stuff they did so far?
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Niemi is a joke. I could play goalie on the Hawks and win fuck.
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aren't the Blackhawks trying to get under the cap?
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Yeah, basically I think if Niemi was over 2.5 Million they woudlnt be able to keep him.

They were hoping for 2.0M and Niemi got 2.75M, they couldnt afford to keep him.
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They should've traded away that back up that gets more then the guy they just signed. Or stuck him in the AHL all year to get rid of the cap hit.
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