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Old 06-11-2013, 10:40 AM   #1
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X looks amazing... 2014 again though.

One final game... better be Smash
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OH THANK FUCK. That Animal Crossing bit had me fooled for a second there.
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I'm not sure Microsoft can lower the price unless they remove the Kinect from the box. And I'm not so sure they want to do that; they want to make sure everyone can play every game released on the system.
They could actually take a loss. In fact, it looks like their current setup sees an actual markup. If they're more concerned with making a profit on each individual Xbox rather than selling a large install base, this is the way to go, I guess.

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Xbox One definitely got the games but maaaaaaaaaan.
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Everything this caliber gets sold out around holiday season.
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Old 06-11-2013, 10:42 AM   #4
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Old 06-11-2013, 10:43 AM   #5
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Old 06-11-2013, 11:10 AM   #6
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That was overall pretty shit. A remake, Pikmin 3, Mario 3D and W101 this year. That's it. DKC for some people too I guess.
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Just finished watching the Nintendo Direct replay

Mega Man.

Nintendo did a much better job of promoting the 3DS than what Sony did with the Vita last night.
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Old 06-11-2013, 12:48 PM   #8
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It's so bizzare, surely Sony should look at the 3DS and see that it sold like shit until Nintendo got some games out for it and not just ignore it. Walking Dead is fantastic, but not late-port system shifter fantastic.
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I'd be willing to bet Sony really believes the sales for the Vita will spike once the PS4 arrives not because of Vita games but because of the whole Remote Play feature. Had the same thinking and attitude with the PSP.

Even when they had something nice to talk about the Vita (60% sales are digital), the actual reason behind it is really depressing (barely any games on retail shelves).
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Old 06-11-2013, 01:03 PM   #10
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The Nintendo games look great, but they definitely didnt go out on a limb for something new.

Been thinking more about the PS4 v. Xbone, and as much as the DRM sitution is damn ridiculous, I personally enjoy the Xbone exclusives over the PS4 ones (which basically now consists of Killzone and whatever Naughty Dog has down the pipe).

The truth is, I haven't lent out, borrowed, or rented a game in years, so I believe Im the type that will be minimally effected by it. I do trade in from time to time for Amazon credit, but even that is scarce.

I just feel like if i buy the One, i'm contributing to a trend that should not be fed at all...but a lot of people felt the same way regarding paying for online play.
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Old 06-11-2013, 01:06 PM   #11
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Reggie revealed which Nintendo games will be playable at select Best Buy E3 demo locations.

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Hot off the Nintendo E3 Direct, Reggie brings the news of what exactly fans will be able to play at the Wii U Best Buy event. Let's cut to it: Mario Kart 8, Super Mario 3D World, The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker HD, and Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze will be showing up at your Best Buy location in playable form.

The event is tomorrow, June 12, at 4-8 PM and Saturday, June 15 at 1-5 PM. There's also word that the event will have "Luigi loot" for those who show up.
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I'll get on those games and get anything I can for you guys. Anybody else going?
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It appears Sony wasnt being 100% honest on the big stage (shocking, i know).

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Third-Party Publishers WIll Have Final Say On Used Games for PS4

In an interview with Game Trailers’ Geoff Keighley, Sony CEO Jack Tretton shed more light on how used games will work on the PlayStation 4. It seems that, while the system’s first-party games will be free to trade in or share without restriction, third-party publishers can choose to behave otherwise.

Tretton’s remarks start at about 1:08:00 in this segment:

“If the consumer pays x amount of dollars for a game and they don’t have the flexibility to get some additional value out of it, it changes the way the perceive the value of the game and it takes dollars out of their pocket to buy a new game... We just want to give the consumer flexibility.”

Asked what Sony’s response would be if publishers wanted to restrict used games sales, Tretton replied:

“We create the platform. We’ve certainly stated with our first party games, we’re not going to be doing that. But we welcome publishers and their business models to our platforms. There’s going to be free-to-play; there’s going to be every potential business model on there and again that’s up to their relationship with the consumer and what they think is going to put them in the best stead. So we’re not going to dictate that. We’re going to give them a platform to publish on."

On DRM:

"The DRM decision is going to have to be in the hands of the third parties. That’s not something that we’re going to dictate or mandate or control or implement."

Tretton also said that a PlayStation Plus membership will be a mandatory purchase if you want to play multiplayer for PS4.
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Sony was being completely honest; I believe you are misconstruing the words. Sony isn't enforcing any DRM on games, but is leaving third-parties to do so if they wish. It's the same as it is now. Microsoft is forcing the DRM themselves, and I'm sure publishers could add more DRM to their games on Xbox One if they so desired as well. I'm sure EA or some similar publisher has requested these features out of the gate for their own reasons, and Sony is leaving the option in for them.
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It's the whole "Online passes are totally stupid and nobody but the publisher likes them, but we will still let you do them" answer. It's just the same as it is now on 360 and PS3.
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Yeah they never said the Used Game policy/DRM was suddenly being removed as part of all those digs against Microsoft. Those people cheering and clapping yesterday probably didn't even realize its still there. To be fair, Microsoft also has it as an optional feature but its tied into a lot more restrictions than Sony's.

Same for the announcement of PS+ now being required for multiplayer on the PS4 since people only noticed it from a disclaimer/bulletpoints and not something Sony said last night.

The whole conference was designed to get people as less pissed about the DRM side of things Sony is doing while keeping all the anger focused on Microsoft.
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Yeah, that's old news.

Can't really blame them, as you have to figure that having no DRM whatsoever, would affect third party support.
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I'd be willing to bet Sony really believes the sales for the Vita will spike once the PS4 arrives not because of Vita games but because of the whole Remote Play feature. Had the same thinking and attitude with the PSP.

Even when they had something nice to talk about the Vita (60% sales are digital), the actual reason behind it is really depressing (barely any games on retail shelves).
With Plus being mandatory, the best selling point for the Vita may be free games. This is provided they don't change things up, but this is one of the main reasons I got a Vita.

Now, if only they'd make the cards cheaper so I didn't have to swap out my games every four hours....

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It appears Sony wasnt being 100% honest on the big stage (shocking, i know).
Sony was transparent about this from the announcement of the console in the first place. It's not new, dishonest, backtracking or kleenex

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The PS3 already has some DRM on games, like a PSN Capcom fighting game that I don't quite recall.
The PS3 has some DRM on all games, as they're on the PS3.

I don't imagine any console this gen is going to let you play burned games. Can't comment on the specific one here, but it's not like consoles are exactly open systems.
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The PS3 already has some DRM on games, like a PSN Capcom fighting game that I don't quite recall.
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Bayonetta 2 revealed to include two player co-op.
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Yep I got back home in time. Fucking love Justin McElroy stories (his Sherlock Holmes stories from years past were so damn funny).
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He's pretty nervous to do it live, but this was still an awesome 3 minutes that was right on the money.
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the award for "Most Unnecessary Use of Sunglasses on TV in 2013" def goes to that guy introducing and closing out the clip
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He wore them for about 14 hours over 2 days of live TV. They barely ever came off.
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According to a few E3 interviews, EA is coming up with another "Online Pass"-type plan and would make use of the new options Microsoft and Sony is offering for their next gen consoles.

EA even hinted they had no clue Sony was still allowing some restrictions possible and are considering using those options for their new plan on the PS4.

http://www.screwattack.com/news/ea-a...ing-better-one
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According to a few E3 interviews, EA is coming up with another "Online Pass"-type plan and would make use of the new options Microsoft and Sony is offering for their next gen consoles.

EA even hinted they had no clue Sony was still allowing some restrictions possible and are considering using those options for their new plan on the PS4.

http://www.screwattack.com/news/ea-a...ing-better-one
I think people are blowing what he said out of proportion. Though it's been a week and nobody's gone too outrageous.

On the other hand, Peter shouldn't like about online passes. They already admitted it was about the money. Don't pretend you have our best interest at hearts.
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Of course it was still possible on PS4. They'll just be going after microtransaction whales. Far better source of income.
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Yep I got back home in time. Fucking love Justin McElroy stories (his Sherlock Holmes stories from years past were so damn funny).
Day 2 is on with Cliffy B and Jonathan Blow
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One of the best E3 talks I've ever seen them do. Amazing shit.
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They probably would have if they didn't have a shitload of guests left to show, and I guess it's technically possible they could show up on a later part if they wanted to.
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I have a lot of respect for both of those dudes, even if they both occasionally do things in the media that I'm not a huge fan of: Cliffy acts like a rock star, and probably is as close to one as you will see in the industry, but I'm happy to see he seems to have mellowed out some after his departure from Epic. And Blow is just fucking smart, but does a lot more complaining on Twitter than I really care to read. I do really respect what he's done for indies (I think Indie Fund is an awesome idea and I'm happy he helped make that work).
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Probably due to missing out on a day for their E3 recap shows. Yesterday was around the same as well for the guests being there for the 1st hour or so.


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Yeah Blow is really smart when he's not complaining or acting like a douche on Twitter. Got really bad for a period where he became a Sony exclusive provider and the lashing out at Nintendo (while Nintendo was fixing a lot of their mistakes from the WiiWare era).
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