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Old 12-16-2021, 04:34 PM   #201
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i love the idea of bringing broadways back
They’ve had at least 5 in AEW; Cody v Darby, Moxley v Pac, Pac v Omega iron man originally ended in a draw, Omega v Danielson and now Danielson v Page.

Unless you mean full 60 minute matches as last night was their first. But yeah I would be ok with a few a year. I think using a heel champ and upstart babyface is the ideal match to run it.
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Old 12-16-2021, 04:44 PM   #202
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a broadaay is 60 min yes
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Old 12-16-2021, 05:19 PM   #203
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Time limit draws in general are great if done right.

I can see this leading to an iron man match on PPV. Which I know a lot of people hate but it completely changes the strategy of the match and could lead to a totally different feel.
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Old 12-16-2021, 05:23 PM   #204
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There’s a fine line between broadways being used to tell a story and build credibility and broadways being done because “long match = good match” though. They need to avoid that trap.
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Old 12-16-2021, 05:37 PM   #205
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it can also be lazy "i cant come up with a way to get both guys over so draw" but i def think they have their place in a wrestling product thats buil up as sport
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Old 12-16-2021, 05:48 PM   #206
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I miss TV title 15 minute time limits that regularly went the distance. Especially with a heel champion. That’s one situation where time limits can definitely be over-used and it’s perfectly fine because “beating the clock” becomes part of the story.

Arn and Ron Garvin had one on the watch-along week’s back and it was perfect.
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Old 12-16-2021, 07:25 PM   #207
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There’s a time and a place for going Broadway. I don’t think this was the best storytelling they could do.
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Old 12-16-2021, 08:37 PM   #208
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Yeah, I'm not against Broadway at all, but I don't think this was the time for it. Pages build up to the title had some missteps. I think they course corrected as much as they could, but Page's victory was tainted a bit by that. A clean victory over Danielson here would have helped make up for all that and solidify him as the top guy.

They could still eventually do that, but I don't think it would have the same impact as if he did it here. This was the moment to capitalize, imo.
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Old 12-17-2021, 12:25 AM   #209
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Yeah, I'm not against Broadway at all, but I don't think this was the time for it. Pages build up to the title had some missteps. I think they course corrected as much as they could, but Page's victory was tainted a bit by that. A clean victory over Danielson here would have helped make up for all that and solidify him as the top guy.

They could still eventually do that, but I don't think it would have the same impact as if he did it here. This was the moment to capitalize, imo.
Agreed. If this was about making Page, a clean victory would have been more impressive. Or he could have been challenging and pushed Danielson to the limit. It does feel like Destor’s lazy booking scenario.
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Old 12-17-2021, 09:15 AM   #210
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It was a great build for the next encounter between the two, when Hangman hit his finish and we all knew that he was about to get the clean win but the bell rings and the time is up. I was really into it and yelled out "NO!". It was a fun brief moment of childlike fandom for me.
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Old 12-17-2021, 12:41 PM   #211
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i feel like that was the exact issue i had with the match. at the go home it was hangman he couldnt get i done. instead it should have been Danielson with hangman taking everything he had to offer unable to get i done. you have an hour to beat the champ not the other way around. felt like looking ay a sunrise from the wrong side.
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The only thing worse than 50/50 booking is 0/0 booking when it is clearly being done just to extend the fued. It is even worse the way they booked it to Destor's point. So the heel challenger is going to want a rematch because "haha you couldnt beat me in time so give yourself another chance to beat me!!!" Its lazy and illogical.

If they really want to go down this road, they should book 2 more matches that end with kicks to the balls ala Styles/Nakamura.
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Old 12-17-2021, 03:04 PM   #213
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After Danielson won the tournament, wasn’t one of Page’s opening salvos that he beat Omega within the time limit when Danielson couldn’t? If that whole thing was supposed to get Page over, then the struggling to beat someone in time story doesn’t fit the tone. If Page were challenging? Sure.

I also saw a lot of people who predicted the outcome when they saw the match placement on the show. They signposted it. I also saw someone point out that they introduced the idea for judges for this sort of event, but obviously it’s just inconvenient for them to be there with Page looking strong at the end.

The booking in this company is far from air-tight.
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