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Old 12-11-2004, 07:22 PM   #201
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Why do you keep talking about Gammons like he's a reliable source of information?
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Other notes, Gammons was just on, said the Sox signed wells because they are confident Pedro is coming back and that they wont get Pavano because the Tigers are willing to go 5yrs and the sox aren't.

Also that the sox are close to a deal w/ Renteria and Gammons thinks when all is said and done Teck will come back also.

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BREAKING NEWS FROM THE WINTER MEETINGS: The Boston Red Sox have signed Edgar Renteria.
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Old 12-11-2004, 08:25 PM   #202
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looks like Pavano is close to signing with them Yanks. 4 year 48 million
I am hoping and praying this happens
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Renteria!!! NASTY!
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Whats gonna happen to Cabrera now? Is he a free agent?
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Braves got Kolb from the Brewers.

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I don't know about Kolb, he's like 30 and only had one good season. His stats are so weird, he struck out like a record low for closers or something. That'd be cool if he was good for the Braves tho I guess
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Right.

First off, the deal isn't confirmed. Second of all, so what? Even a broken clock is right twice per day.

I'm still waiting on that Alex Rios for Nick Johnson swap, so I can kick Ricciardi in the nuts.

Also, there's no way Renteria is worth 10mil. Ew.

And I think it was a good move by the Brewers to sell Kolb while his value was high. Got a damn good prospect IIRC.

And as for the D'backs talk from earlier, I am so fucking sure that I remember Randy not wanting to be dealt that it's not even funny. But I'm also sure he will be dealt. That's where the money is coming from.

There, that about covers everything I think.
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Pavano will be signing with the Yankee's now according to ESPN.com

Is he going to be a Mike Mussina or a Javier Vasquez?

BTW, Psychosport, you are right, Randy did not want to be dealt...for a while. Then he admitted that he did and everything opened up. When you are in a position like that, you can't say that until the perfect time. So he was saying he didn't want to be traded for a while, but then he said he did.
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OK, this Renteria on Boston thing, I haven't seen it anywhere. Where is it being reported? Or am I just falling for another stupid trick?
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ya I havn't seen the Renteria thing either

Well Pavano has found a home in New York. The deal hasn't been finalized though

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Roger Clemens has accepted arbitration and will remain in Houston (if he doesn't retire)
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OK, this Renteria on Boston thing, I haven't seen it anywhere. Where is it being reported? Or am I just falling for another stupid trick?
Heard it on the radio (WFAN). They have people that are in the hotel where all of the owners/GMs/Managers are at, and they WERE saying that a deal was finalized, but now the Red Sox' official site is reporting that it's NOT 100% complete, but they are very close (the Sox have offered a 4 year deal worth $40 million).

But what WAS confirmed was that Cabrera is now a free agent. Hmm, it'd be weird if the Cards retaliated by picking him up, but it won't happen as the Cards likely don't have the cash.

http://boston.redsox.mlb.com/NASApp/..._bos&fext=.jsp
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So Smoltzee is back in the rotation.

He has been wanting this for a long time, maybe he will deliver like the good old days.
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Old 12-12-2004, 12:37 AM   #214
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Just heard about the Matt Lawton/Arthur Rhodes trade (even though it actually was announced about 6 hours ago).

Good job @ the Indians sacrificing Lawton for salary flexibility, but they'd better hope that Arthur Rhodes can return to his 2001/2002-esque performances now that he's going back to being a set-up man.
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ok, someone with more NL knowledge, give me some Renteria info.

I'm most concerned w/ his glove. How is it/him?

Cause Caberaera was good, and the reason talked around here was he wanted 5yrs and too much money.

But someone also said Renteria plays OF?????

If that's the case it may make more sense for the sox.
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Why are they signing him to a 4 year deal? I thought the Sox had a nasty guy coming up threw the farm system right now and they didn't want to sign ANY shortstop for longer then 2-3 years
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Why are they signing him to a 4 year deal? I thought the Sox had a nasty guy coming up threw the farm system right now and they didn't want to sign ANY shortstop for longer then 2-3 years
I'll put 2 guesses.

1) they move Renteria to 2B.

2) It gives them a great trade prospect if needed in the season.
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He made 11 errors this past year. His career has been kind of weird. His rookie year he made 11 errors, and then he got worse for 4 or 5 years, and then he starting decreasing every year and this year he was back at 11.
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He made 11 errors this past year. His career has been kind of weird. His rookie year he made 11 errors, and then he got worse for 4 or 5 years, and then he starting decreasing every year and this year he was back at 11.
hmm... 11 ain't horrible.

I heard something he's played OF? is that true? If that's the case, that makes sense, cause they sox have a SS in the minors and Damon is a Free Agent in 1-2 years.
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Dammit, Pavano has instructed his agent to strike a deal with the Yanks.
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Pavano

Reports are that LA might sign T. Hudson.

That would break up my favorite pitching staff of all-time.
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I didn't expect the Sox to sign Wells...I never thought I'd see him in a Sox uniform ever to tell you the truth. I didn't really hear much about it then all of a sudden hes now on the team.
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Yeah I had no idea about Wells. I dunno if Renteria has ever played outfield. I remember he played first base one game for a few innings I think, haha
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Wait Renteria is going to play outfield? What is Doug Mientkiewicz going to play short now?
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Sox didn't sign Renteria, they're close, but STL gave him a 4yr offer, so the Sox are supposed to meet w/ OC's agent today.

The sox are supposed to deal either Meintkiewicz or Millar at some point.
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Renteria's never played in the OF. He has one game at 1B, one game at DH, and all other games at SS.

Also, the Dodgers can't sign Hudson as he's not a free agent.
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The sox are supposed to deal either Meintkiewicz or Millar at some point.
Hopefully Millar. Bats can be replaced, or people can get hot. You pretty much are what you are in the field tho, and Meintkiewicz is probably the best defensive 1st baseman in the game.
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OH SHIT NO

Just heard that Royce Ring of the Mets farm system is eligible for the Rule 5 Draft (which I'm not entirely clear on but it sounds like the Mets may lose him), because everyone needs lefty pitching out of the bullpen.

My question is why wouldn't they just re-sign him to a new contract? He's an awesome lefty and has been dubbed as the closer of the future for the Mets.

Someone care to clarify what exactly the Rule 5 Draft is, anyways?
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On the radio, not sure what paper, is reporting the Sox offered Manny to the Mets for Floyd, and w/ the money the sox would have signed Reteria & Delgado.

The Mets turned down the offer,

WTF, stop trying to deal Manny!
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LOL wtf. That is the dumbest trade ever.
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Sexson is pretty much confirmed to be going to the M's.
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Old 12-13-2004, 03:03 PM   #235
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I kind of hope that Beltran signs with the Mets too
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Old 12-13-2004, 05:19 PM   #236
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Hurray, Jays got Koskie.

Jays are also supposed to be a top 3 team for Matt Clemente. Could be a decent off season after all
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Old 12-13-2004, 06:05 PM   #237
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Pedro 4yr/56 million rumored to sign with the mets today
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Old 12-13-2004, 07:00 PM   #238
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Holy shit I thought Pedro's asking for 38 mil to re-sign with the Sox was a lot.

Anyway I heard that D-Lowe is gonna arbitarily sign with the Sox for 8 mil and is only gonna be a middle RP. Is there any truth to that? Cause if there is that's bullshit, D-Lowe should still be starting
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Old 12-13-2004, 07:19 PM   #240
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I'm glad that the Jays signed Koskie. I think it might be a year too long, though. He is 32, and 3B's don't traditionally age well.

Still, good signing. Hopefully they can dump Hinske somewhere instead of playing him at first. There was a rumour that he'd be packaged with Batista for Carlos Lee. That would have been awesome, but alas, Carlos Lee was just traded to the Brewers.

I hope to God the Jays don't win the Clement sweepstakes. He has had one good year, and he's the kind of pitcher that would suck ass in the American League.
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