College Football Thread 2005-2006 - Page 6

**Corkscrewed** · 10-16-2005, 02:53 AM

LOL

When you lose in close wars like this, the fans/people who don't have class go and play the blame game. Next thing you know they'll start calling for media bias.

**The Outlaw** · 10-16-2005, 03:18 AM

Oh I'm not a fan of either team. I was wanting an upset, sure, but I despise both teams equally. I am a Weis fan but believe me, it is a penalty. Like I said, never called, but it is in the ole rulebook.

RP · 10-16-2005, 03:56 AM

What a game. I lost 50 bucks, but what a friggin game.

Is anyone talking about the fact that Carroll went for the win instead of spiking the ball and kicking the field goal? You wanna talk about a set of balls right there. Could you imagine what people would say if Lienart got stuffed at the goal line and time ran out. Pete Carroll and the USC team as a whole , have the biggest balls in the country right now. I think they're gunna win the National Championship for the third year in a row. You talk about confidence in your players to pull that TD off. Amazing

I think USC would have a outside shot at beating the Houston Texans. Call me stupid, but the way USC is coached ( by every coach ) and they players and depth they have on that team. I think they could beat the worst pro team in the NFL. The Houston Texans.

**The Outlaw** · 10-16-2005, 04:02 AM

No.

Also, Carroll called for a spike and was more than likely (I figure) going to kick a field goal.

**VonErich Lives** · 10-16-2005, 06:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gonzo

VEL didn't you have the oppurtunity to go to this game?

Yeah, would have meant trading some Red Sox tickets I had, but ended up going to the Sox game. Fenway Park - 10mins away, South Bend (14hr drive, that's just a guess off the top of my head).

**VonErich Lives** · 10-16-2005, 06:58 AM

Haven't seen a replay since the game, buy yeah, "aiding" is a penalty.

As for what Carrol called, has he come out and said "I wanted a spike and my player over rode me?"

I doubt that, I'd be pretty shocked to see a college player in that situation do the opposite of what his coach wanted, more likely Carroll was selling the fake spike.

Wasn't it Marino who did that in the NFL? Ran up showing spike, then threw a TD.

**VonErich Lives** · 10-16-2005, 11:01 AM

just to add. Watching ESPN today.

1) It was a push, no question even the ESPN guys said it's illegal. I haven't heard any complaints from ND Coaches though, which is good, still should have been able to stop that to win.

2) Carroll said he told his team "I don't want to go to OT, if we can go for it we will".

USC practices a QB sneak from the spike position.

Bush says he asked Leinart if he was going to spike.
Leinart said you think i should go for it
Bush said you gotta go for it
Leinart said something like "well, you have to help" or "you have to be ready".

Do, I think this meant "push me" of course not, Bush just saw a shot and took it, I think Leinart figured if he was plugged and couldn't get a clean ground shot to spike it, he'd try and toss it to Bush.

great game, no complaints or excuses here, that's a type of play while not legal, shouldn't have prevented a win.

**Gonzo** · 10-16-2005, 12:19 PM

No college team would ever be able to beat a pro team ever. I don't care how good or how bad the teams are it just won't happen. The complexity of NFL schemes is too much for a college team.

**VonErich Lives** · 10-16-2005, 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gonzo

No college team would ever be able to beat a pro team ever. I don't care how good or how bad the teams are it just won't happen. The complexity of NFL schemes is too much for a college team.

I agree with that. Even the best college teams have probably 1/2 a team or 3/4 a team that will never play an NFL down.

**Joey Slugs** · 10-16-2005, 04:46 PM

Texas Tech Passing
	C/ATT	YDS	TD	INT
Hodges	44/65	643	5	2

that was for yesturdays game against Kansas State.

**Nervous Ferret** · 10-16-2005, 04:50 PM

The NEW Cliff Kingsbury

**The Outlaw** · 10-16-2005, 05:28 PM

Yeah, that instance was just plain out blatant though. Most of the time there's a big pileup and a few lineman push the runner. Bush just takes a run and shoves him. I don't like it, but what are ya gonna do?

**BCWWF** · 10-17-2005, 03:03 AM

So who is the good team in the Big 10?

Michigan:
Beat Penn State
Beat Michigan State
Lost to Minnesota
Lost to Wisconsin

Ohio State:
Beat Iowa
Beat Michigan State
Lost to Penn State
Lost to Texas

Penn State:
Beat Minnesota
Beat Ohio State
Lost to Michigan

Wisconsin:
Beat Minnesota
Beat Michigan
Lost to Northwestern

Minnesota:
Beat Michigan
Lost to Wisconsin
Lost to Penn State

Iowa:
Beat Purdue
Beat Indiana
Lost to Ohio State
Lost to Iowa State

There is no clear cut great team, the BCS team could be any team. I would say that Ohio State and Penn State have the best shot right now, and even though Wisconsin is up there they shouldn't last because they aren't that good.

**The Outlaw** · 10-17-2005, 02:03 PM

Penn State. Even though they lost Williams.

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 10-18-2005, 02:25 AM

I thought USC was going to kill ND...I guess I was wrong.

**RGWhat316** · 10-18-2005, 04:01 AM

I almost bet on the Penn State/Michigan game. Kinda glad I didn't now. I still can't believe they lost in the FINAL SECOND OF THE GAME!!!!!!! So much for the undefeated streak. I might get my redemption when Penn State plays Michigan State. I've already got money on the line in that game, even though I have to wait another month.

**The Outlaw** · 10-18-2005, 03:35 PM

Alabama/Tennessee this week. Brodie said something like "We can finally say Tennessee" to DJ Hall after the Ole Miss game. Seems like this is what happened last time we faced a real good team, we played pretty shitty against Arkansas and then smacked Florida around. I dunno though, UT has always had our number. 9 out of the past 10 years, although the last two we should have won. It's going to be crazy though. Fucking COndoleeza Rice is going to be there with a bunch of mumbo jumbo government officials, dignitaries, and the foreign minister or something. Dunno about all that, figure we will get thoroughly patted down when we go in. No alcohol for my buddy this time. SOB downed a pint of jim bean at the Florida game in the second quarter. He was passed out by 8 that night though, haha.

Anyways, pretty PUMPED UP.

**The Miz** · 10-18-2005, 11:21 PM

Washington will beat USC this week. Book it.

**OssMan** · 10-18-2005, 11:23 PM

Doesn't USC have like 28 game winning streak? I say it goes to at least 40.

**DrA** · 10-22-2005, 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Miz

Washington will beat USC this week. Book it.

Good thing I didn't book that.

**The Miz** · 10-23-2005, 12:33 AM

Washington obviously threw the game, we've been letting them win until they set the win streak record so we can break it.

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 10-23-2005, 01:12 AM

Fucking Tennesse. That guy who fumbled must feel like the biggest piece of shit right now haha

**BCWWF** · 10-23-2005, 02:55 AM

There were two games where both teams were held under 10 points! There were two more in OT. MU beat Nebraska! We are going to get some points in the coaches poll, bitch.

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 10-23-2005, 03:20 AM

Also going back to the Reggie Bush push, they never going to call that. They never have and they never will. It happens all the time. Remember a few years back when a team lost because they called a personal foul when the guy on defense jumped over a teammate during a field goal attempt? Could you imagine if USC lost the game on that call?

RP · 10-24-2005, 01:17 AM

That catch that kid made for USC in the back of the endzone. One handed and coming down with one foot in. That was amazing.

**The Outlaw** · 10-24-2005, 01:27 AM

YEAHHHHHH 6-3

RP · 10-24-2005, 01:28 AM

i loved the Virginia score. Its was like 7-5 i think. lol

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 10-24-2005, 01:04 PM

ACC is crazy this year. Its probably the best conference top to bottom. Duke is really the only extremely shitty team in the conference. Virgina beats FSU then loses to UNC the next week. BC almost beats Virgina and plays a great game againest FSU and almost loses to Wake Forest.

BC vs Virgina Tech on Thrusday night. Should be a good one. I think BC has a shot at beating them.

**Joey Slugs** · 10-24-2005, 06:29 PM

Texas is the new BCS #1

**The Outlaw** · 10-24-2005, 06:42 PM

LOL @ UNC beating Virginia 7-5.

**BCWWF** · 10-25-2005, 02:50 AM

See this is where I think the BCS has it right. Texas has blown out every opponent this year, and some very respectable ones at that. USC basically holds No. 1 because of the preseason ranking and the old "they are still the champions" shit. I don't care if they won last year and haven't lost yet this year, that doesn't automatically make them the best.

RP · 10-25-2005, 03:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BCWWF

See this is where I think the BCS has it right. Texas has blown out every opponent this year, and some very respectable ones at that. USC basically holds No. 1 because of the preseason ranking and the old "they are still the champions" shit. I don't care if they won last year and haven't lost yet this year, that doesn't automatically make them the best.

Maybe i'm a traditionalist here, but the champs havent been beaten. Its complete BS that Texas jumped over them. Texas gets to be #1 if they go undefeated and go to the National Championship game and beat the champs, or USC loses a regular season game. Anything else is stupid. Fuck the BSC.

**The Outlaw** · 10-25-2005, 06:54 PM

http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/...510250348/1002

**BCWWF** · 10-25-2005, 10:20 PM

Its true. If V-Tech wins out then you can't make a case why they shouldn't be in there. That being said, I really think that having official preseason polls is what throws it all off. USC hasn't been all that impressive this year, but they are still No. 1 by principle.

I'm not sure how it works next year, but I know there is a national title game that isn't a normal BCS bowl. I think they should go back to the traditional Big 10 vs. Pac 10, Big 12 vs. SEC, ACC vs. Big East, and Wildcard vs. Wildcard and then have the playoff. Is next years national championship game the winner of like the cotten and rose bowl, or is it two different teams altogether?

Bo · 10-25-2005, 10:55 PM

I have to say I agree with Tubbs all the way.

RP · 10-26-2005, 05:55 AM

BTW heres an off prediction i'm gunna throw out there as my National Championship game pick. UCLA vs Texas. Thats right. UCLA.

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 10-26-2005, 11:45 AM

Texas jumped USC by like .0007 of a point. Who cares? If everyone wins out I bet Texas won't even be in the National Championship game. Could very easily be Virgina Tech vs USC. Tech still has 3 games againest Ranked Opponents. Boston College, Miami and Florida State (If they play for the ACC championship)

I am hoping BC is able to end all this tho and beat Va Tech tomorrow night.

**The Outlaw** · 10-26-2005, 04:26 PM

Texas won't be jumped if they win out. Neither will USC. I am hoping Boston College wins as well.

**Joey Slugs** · 10-29-2005, 08:30 PM

i hope to god that Northwestern beats Michigan tonight.

alas.. it's 14-0 UM in the 1st

**BCWWF** · 10-29-2005, 10:26 PM

Todays MU-kU game was awful. We only scored three points. They only had 13, and even though we are 5-3 that warranted rushing the field. BAH.

Anyway, hell yeah to John Anderson. He gave a blatant shoutout to Mizzou on ESPN. Apparently from people who know him, he is still a huge Mizzou fan and hates kansas.

Anyway, anybody else see Texas coming back from this? If they lose then they are pretty much out of the Rose Bowl I'd think. That Vince Young run just now was sick, he is so fast.

10-16-2005, 02:53 AM	#201
Corkscrewed Posts: 18,357	LOL When you lose in close wars like this, the fans/people who don't have class go and play the blame game. Next thing you know they'll start calling for media bias.

10-16-2005, 03:18 AM	#202
The Outlaw Unofficial Legend Posts: 11,931	Oh I'm not a fan of either team. I was wanting an upset, sure, but I despise both teams equally. I am a Weis fan but believe me, it is a penalty. Like I said, never called, but it is in the ole rulebook.

10-16-2005, 03:56 AM	#203
RP King of Love and Piss Posts: 62,993	What a game. I lost 50 bucks, but what a friggin game. Is anyone talking about the fact that Carroll went for the win instead of spiking the ball and kicking the field goal? You wanna talk about a set of balls right there. Could you imagine what people would say if Lienart got stuffed at the goal line and time ran out. Pete Carroll and the USC team as a whole , have the biggest balls in the country right now. I think they're gunna win the National Championship for the third year in a row. You talk about confidence in your players to pull that TD off. Amazing I think USC would have a outside shot at beating the Houston Texans. Call me stupid, but the way USC is coached ( by every coach ) and they players and depth they have on that team. I think they could beat the worst pro team in the NFL. The Houston Texans.

10-16-2005, 04:02 AM	#204
The Outlaw Unofficial Legend Posts: 11,931	No. Also, Carroll called for a spike and was more than likely (I figure) going to kick a field goal.

10-16-2005, 06:58 AM	#206
VonErich Lives WTF do you want? Posts: 14,760	Haven't seen a replay since the game, buy yeah, "aiding" is a penalty. As for what Carrol called, has he come out and said "I wanted a spike and my player over rode me?" I doubt that, I'd be pretty shocked to see a college player in that situation do the opposite of what his coach wanted, more likely Carroll was selling the fake spike. Wasn't it Marino who did that in the NFL? Ran up showing spike, then threw a TD.

10-16-2005, 11:01 AM	#207
VonErich Lives WTF do you want? Posts: 14,760	just to add. Watching ESPN today. 1) It was a push, no question even the ESPN guys said it's illegal. I haven't heard any complaints from ND Coaches though, which is good, still should have been able to stop that to win. 2) Carroll said he told his team "I don't want to go to OT, if we can go for it we will". USC practices a QB sneak from the spike position. Bush says he asked Leinart if he was going to spike. Leinart said you think i should go for it Bush said you gotta go for it Leinart said something like "well, you have to help" or "you have to be ready". Do, I think this meant "push me" of course not, Bush just saw a shot and took it, I think Leinart figured if he was plugged and couldn't get a clean ground shot to spike it, he'd try and toss it to Bush. great game, no complaints or excuses here, that's a type of play while not legal, shouldn't have prevented a win.

10-16-2005, 12:19 PM	#208
Gonzo feel the madness Posts: 11,360	No college team would ever be able to beat a pro team ever. I don't care how good or how bad the teams are it just won't happen. The complexity of NFL schemes is too much for a college team.

10-16-2005, 04:50 PM	#211
Nervous Ferret love yourself Posts: 47,788	The NEW Cliff Kingsbury

10-16-2005, 05:28 PM	#212
The Outlaw Unofficial Legend Posts: 11,931	Yeah, that instance was just plain out blatant though. Most of the time there's a big pileup and a few lineman push the runner. Bush just takes a run and shoves him. I don't like it, but what are ya gonna do?

10-17-2005, 03:03 AM	#213
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	So who is the good team in the Big 10? Michigan: Beat Penn State Beat Michigan State Lost to Minnesota Lost to Wisconsin Ohio State: Beat Iowa Beat Michigan State Lost to Penn State Lost to Texas Penn State: Beat Minnesota Beat Ohio State Lost to Michigan Wisconsin: Beat Minnesota Beat Michigan Lost to Northwestern Minnesota: Beat Michigan Lost to Wisconsin Lost to Penn State Iowa: Beat Purdue Beat Indiana Lost to Ohio State Lost to Iowa State There is no clear cut great team, the BCS team could be any team. I would say that Ohio State and Penn State have the best shot right now, and even though Wisconsin is up there they shouldn't last because they aren't that good.

10-17-2005, 02:03 PM	#214
The Outlaw Unofficial Legend Posts: 11,931	Penn State. Even though they lost Williams.

10-18-2005, 02:25 AM	#215
Jesus Shuttlesworth Posts: 42,765	I thought USC was going to kill ND...I guess I was wrong.

10-18-2005, 04:01 AM	#216
RGWhat316 YesYesYes! Posts: 4,163	I almost bet on the Penn State/Michigan game. Kinda glad I didn't now. I still can't believe they lost in the FINAL SECOND OF THE GAME!!!!!!! So much for the undefeated streak. I might get my redemption when Penn State plays Michigan State. I've already got money on the line in that game, even though I have to wait another month.

10-18-2005, 03:35 PM	#217
The Outlaw Unofficial Legend Posts: 11,931	Alabama/Tennessee this week. Brodie said something like "We can finally say Tennessee" to DJ Hall after the Ole Miss game. Seems like this is what happened last time we faced a real good team, we played pretty shitty against Arkansas and then smacked Florida around. I dunno though, UT has always had our number. 9 out of the past 10 years, although the last two we should have won. It's going to be crazy though. Fucking COndoleeza Rice is going to be there with a bunch of mumbo jumbo government officials, dignitaries, and the foreign minister or something. Dunno about all that, figure we will get thoroughly patted down when we go in. No alcohol for my buddy this time. SOB downed a pint of jim bean at the Florida game in the second quarter. He was passed out by 8 that night though, haha. Anyways, pretty PUMPED UP.

10-18-2005, 11:21 PM	#218
The Miz Clutch Poster Posts: 11,997	Washington will beat USC this week. Book it.

10-18-2005, 11:23 PM	#219
OssMan The Classic Dylan Staples Posts: 51,537	Doesn't USC have like 28 game winning streak? I say it goes to at least 40.

10-23-2005, 12:33 AM	#221
The Miz Clutch Poster Posts: 11,997	Washington obviously threw the game, we've been letting them win until they set the win streak record so we can break it.

10-23-2005, 01:12 AM	#222
Jesus Shuttlesworth Posts: 42,765	Fucking Tennesse. That guy who fumbled must feel like the biggest piece of shit right now haha

10-23-2005, 02:55 AM	#223
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	There were two games where both teams were held under 10 points! There were two more in OT. MU beat Nebraska! We are going to get some points in the coaches poll, bitch.

10-23-2005, 03:20 AM	#224
Jesus Shuttlesworth Posts: 42,765	Also going back to the Reggie Bush push, they never going to call that. They never have and they never will. It happens all the time. Remember a few years back when a team lost because they called a personal foul when the guy on defense jumped over a teammate during a field goal attempt? Could you imagine if USC lost the game on that call?

10-24-2005, 01:17 AM	#225
RP King of Love and Piss Posts: 62,993	That catch that kid made for USC in the back of the endzone. One handed and coming down with one foot in. That was amazing.

10-24-2005, 01:27 AM	#226
The Outlaw Unofficial Legend Posts: 11,931	YEAHHHHHH 6-3

10-24-2005, 01:28 AM	#227
RP King of Love and Piss Posts: 62,993	i loved the Virginia score. Its was like 7-5 i think. lol

10-24-2005, 01:04 PM	#228
Jesus Shuttlesworth Posts: 42,765	ACC is crazy this year. Its probably the best conference top to bottom. Duke is really the only extremely shitty team in the conference. Virgina beats FSU then loses to UNC the next week. BC almost beats Virgina and plays a great game againest FSU and almost loses to Wake Forest. BC vs Virgina Tech on Thrusday night. Should be a good one. I think BC has a shot at beating them.

10-24-2005, 06:29 PM	#229
Joey Slugs Second City Saint Posts: 5,806	Texas is the new BCS #1

10-24-2005, 06:42 PM	#230
The Outlaw Unofficial Legend Posts: 11,931	LOL @ UNC beating Virginia 7-5.

10-25-2005, 02:50 AM	#231
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	See this is where I think the BCS has it right. Texas has blown out every opponent this year, and some very respectable ones at that. USC basically holds No. 1 because of the preseason ranking and the old "they are still the champions" shit. I don't care if they won last year and haven't lost yet this year, that doesn't automatically make them the best.

10-25-2005, 06:54 PM	#233
The Outlaw Unofficial Legend Posts: 11,931	http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/...510250348/1002

10-25-2005, 10:20 PM	#234
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	Its true. If V-Tech wins out then you can't make a case why they shouldn't be in there. That being said, I really think that having official preseason polls is what throws it all off. USC hasn't been all that impressive this year, but they are still No. 1 by principle. I'm not sure how it works next year, but I know there is a national title game that isn't a normal BCS bowl. I think they should go back to the traditional Big 10 vs. Pac 10, Big 12 vs. SEC, ACC vs. Big East, and Wildcard vs. Wildcard and then have the playoff. Is next years national championship game the winner of like the cotten and rose bowl, or is it two different teams altogether?

10-25-2005, 10:55 PM	#235
Bo Bo Knows Posts: 2,786	I have to say I agree with Tubbs all the way.