NFL 2007 Offseason Thread - Page 6

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 03-01-2007, 03:59 PM

lol you are such a homer like really really extreme

Freeney is real good, but best DE in the NFL? I dunno about all that...5 sacks..Do you think he is the only D-End to ever draw a lot attention to himself? A 30 million dollar signing bonus is fucking ridiculous, and just saying its "debatable" makes me almost not even wanna read the rest of your posts in this thread.

**Supreme Olajuwon** · 03-01-2007, 04:30 PM

Dre Bly went to the Broncos

**Supreme Olajuwon** · 03-01-2007, 04:35 PM

Jamal Lewis and Joey Porter both got released. Lewis is supposed to resign I think.

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 03-01-2007, 04:37 PM

Porter got released too? Wow

**Supreme Olajuwon** · 03-01-2007, 04:38 PM

Steelers probably got tired of him being a bitch. That would be understandable since Porter is a huge bitch.

**Supreme Olajuwon** · 03-01-2007, 04:43 PM

If you're gonna make a case for someone being the best defensive end in the NFL, it'd probably help if that player was in, say, the top 50 in sacks this year.

Freeney isn't btw

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 03-01-2007, 05:11 PM

Especially when you are a undersized pass rushing defensive end...

RP · 03-01-2007, 06:09 PM

your guy's ignorance towards football is amazing. You have no clue what the fuck you're talking about. You see 5 sacks and nothing else. You dont even take in consideration what happend all season long.

More later..

**Supreme Olajuwon** · 03-01-2007, 06:44 PM

The best defensive end in the NFL is cleary Jonathan Fanene of the Cincinnati Bengals. I know what you're thinking. He didn't even play in 12 games this year but hear me out. What Fanene does that no one else in the NFL can do is he brings fear to the opposition from his position on the sideline. An opponent's offensive tackles see him on the sideline pacing like a tiger waiting to attack and they say to themselves "Oh shit! I don't wanna make the starting DE's look bad and make them get benched so Fanene comes in and gets 57 sacks. I better let the guys in beat me a couple times so they look like they're really good and they keep playing. Few! Glad that's over."

You can't judge a player by stupid shit like statistics or games played. Anyone who knows anything about football knows that real skill is how well you can psyche out the other team's offensive line.

If you don't agree with this flawless logic then it's clearly an indication of your ignorance.

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 03-01-2007, 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rectal Pertruder

your guy's ignorance towards football is amazing.

lol

You act like Freeney is the only person in the NFL who gets keyed on and offenses avoid..So teams didn't key on him in 2003? 2004? 2005?

He isn't the best defensive end, the best defensive end doesn't have an "off" year.

Explain to me how he is better then Jason Taylor, who to me, is a much more complete player.

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 03-01-2007, 08:18 PM

Joe Horn got cut too

WHO DAT?!!!?!?!?!??!

**Crimson** · 03-01-2007, 11:39 PM

Cowboys should get Mike Doss. ANYONE to help out back there.

And yea Jason Taylor > Freeney

**MTH15** · 03-01-2007, 11:54 PM

OMFG, Petrino better sign Joe Horn or I'll cut him...JK but I dont know if we should...hes getting older and IDK how much he'll cost. Petrino says that Mike Vick will pass a lot more this year...We'll see. And is Bly a Safety or Corner

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 03-02-2007, 12:18 AM

Bly is a corner

I also heard the samething about Vick having a limited number of carries this up coming season. I don't know, who the hell is Vick gonna throw to other then Crumpler?

**MTH15** · 03-02-2007, 12:37 AM

Thats why we should trade like 50 people for the Lions pick and get Calvin Johnson. If we stay at 10th we can get Laron Landry though. They had a nice picture or him doing his vertical. I just hope Bobby doesn't waste a pick.
Hmm I wish our salary cap was huge

. I'd trade Matt Schaub, Warrick Dunn, 1st rounder, and IDK for the Lions pick. I really want Laron Landry though. O Well

**Nervous Ferret** · 03-02-2007, 12:43 AM

COME ONNNNNNNNNNNNNN Adalius Thomas

**Gonzo** · 03-02-2007, 10:07 AM

Haha Freeney is not the best DE in the NFL. The guy is a great player but c'mon.

I think Osi Umenyiora and Mike Strahan are good DE's, they both draw double teams all the time (when they're not injured.) Michael Strahan has been drawing double teams his whole career more or less, but I don't consider him the best in the league.

**Gonzo** · 03-02-2007, 10:12 AM

Here is a small article on ESPN.com of some of the meetings players have arranged with certain teams.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2785239

Says that Leonard Davis (OT, Arizona) is seeing interest from at least three NFC East teams. I would think that one is the Giants because we lost both our LT's already.

Dominic Rhodes is also apparently supposed to meet with the Giants. I don't know. I don't think that we need a big name signing at RB. Unless they go after someone with the intent of making them a change of pace back. I want to see Brandon Jacobs carry the load.

**MTH15** · 03-02-2007, 01:33 PM

My question is who will Joey Porter go to..The falcons need another solid OLB. We need an experienced receiver like Joe Horn.My predictions for a succesful season. Draft LaRon Landry, sign Joe Horn, Release Patrick Kerney, We need a powerback, thats why our redzone % sucked horribly,Release Allen Rossum,trade Warrick Dunn and Matt Schaub for high draft picks, Draft Tedd Ginn Jr. and put him at Kick Returner. And draft some Lineman 2nd-4th. Sign some in Free Agency.

**Nervous Ferret** · 03-02-2007, 02:19 PM

I realize you are 14 and are adament about your "ATL Falcons" but why on earth would they release Warrick Dunn?

**McLegend** · 03-02-2007, 02:25 PM

Because you are a raging homosexual

**Mr. Monday Morning** · 03-02-2007, 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supreme

Steelers probably got tired of him being a bitch. That would be understandable since Porter is a huge bitch.

I'm just gonna leave this quote here as a marker in case the Bengals turn around and sign him.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nervous Ferret

I realize you are 14 and are adament about your "ATL Falcons" but why on earth would they release Warrick Dunn?

To be fair he is slowing down a LOT now - I think he had like 2 100 yard games in the first 2 games of the season, and he didn't come close after that. Plus if Jerious Norwood is healthy, he's shown pretty good potential as a gamebreaker. Pair him with a back like Jamal Lewis (example, not saying they're gonna sign him) and that would work pretty well.

Looks like a bidding war between the 49ers and the Pats for Adalius Thomas. Will be interesting to see which way he leans, money or the greater chance at winning. 49ers are meant to be hot favourites to land Nate Clements too.

**weather vane** · 03-02-2007, 02:40 PM

Jake the Snake retiring?

**SammyG** · 03-02-2007, 03:01 PM

Yup. Plummer retiring because he doesn't wanna be traded to Tampa Bay.

**FearedSanctity** · 03-02-2007, 03:06 PM

Incredibly weak. Just go so we can get our damn draft pick

**ClockShot** · 03-02-2007, 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spilchuk

Jake the Snake retiring?

Yup. They were gonna deal him out to the Bucs for one of their draft picks. He didn't want to be traded off the team, so he decided to retire instead.

Here's the scoop. http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2785459

So, I assume we are gonna go QB shopping this offseason. And now we got Dre Bly to replace Darrent Williams (R.I.P.

) However, I'm still edgy on Cutler starting.

**ClockShot** · 03-02-2007, 03:24 PM

Also, Patriots cut RB Corey Dillion.

**SammyG** · 03-02-2007, 03:25 PM

Niners, Pats going after Thomas.

**MTH15** · 03-02-2007, 05:48 PM

Lets see I say so many things on NFL Network today where do I start...
Patrick Kerney, a TE and another guy visiting the Broncos Friday. I THINK the Falcons released Justin Griffith (STUPID) I know they released Ed Hartwell and Ike Reese.(Now we could put Keith Brooking back at Mike and try to get Joey Porter), Some FB is visiting us Friday. Jeff Garcia is visiting the Raiders And about that comment.

I think we should trade Warrick Dunn because it would be useless to have 2 good backs and 1 big one.We need 1 starter and 1 power. Yes he is slowing down now. I was gonna say its the line but nope. Jerious Norwood busted so many good runs with the same line. Dont be afraid to release anybody. This is a business and btw I'm 15 my birthday is today. So yea that makes my points

More news
Najeh Davenpot resigned a 2 year contract with steelers
Fred Smoot Visits redskins
Fred Taylor signed extension with Jacksonville
Damon Huard signs 3 year extension
Just a few signings and shit

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 03-02-2007, 06:04 PM

Heard Dominic Rhodes is planning on visiting with the Giants, makes a lot of sense..I think he would be a good fit there.

Colts cut Brandon Stokley, can't say I'm surprised. They don't really need him

03-02-2007, 06:04 PM

DILLON

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 03-02-2007, 06:08 PM

Doesn't make a lot of sense to me why he asked to be cut, splitting time with Maroney seemed like a pretty good fit and I am pretty decent he was owed a decent amount of money in the up coming season. That's why I think he is gonna end up retiring, maybe not tho

**SammyG** · 03-02-2007, 07:33 PM

rofl @ THE ATL FALCONS giving that fullback 18 million. Also, Rams sign Hall, pretty good signing.

**MTH15** · 03-02-2007, 08:02 PM

Seriously 18 million to a fullback who is a no name to me. They could save some money and get Moss. They should've just kept Justin Griffith. And I'm waiting on Bobby to sign someone good. Theres 5 good people out there now and hes only managed to cut 3 players and give a no name a fat paycheck.

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 03-02-2007, 08:05 PM

Just saw Patriots had TE Kyle Brady and RB Sammy Morris in Foxboro today...I don't really get bringing in Brady, taking a look at Morris makes a lot more sense to me tho

BTW A lot of fullbacks are "no-name" but Ovie Mughelli is a real good fullback. You talk about how they have a weak redzone offense, adding a good blocking fullback helps a lot

**MTH15** · 03-02-2007, 08:54 PM

I see what your saying. I went to the website and they said a lot about him. He plugs up gaps and s a power runner is what it says. I still think 18 million with a 5 million dollar signing bonus is a lot.

**VonErichLives** · 03-02-2007, 10:39 PM

taylor is the best DE today, freeny is in the 2nd group and there are a lot of good DE's in the league. Taylor is the most complete DE in the league.

Freeny, Smith, Seymore, Schobel are all in group 2 and could take over as #1 as Taylor gets older.

Stima - Kyle Brady I assume is a blocker and a vetran for depth. Dave Thomas will be in his 2nd year and didn't play much and Watson has had cases of the dropsies.

As for the other Thomas, the signing would be huge for the Pats, but I wont get excited until it happens.

**Evil Vito** · 03-02-2007, 11:24 PM

Holy shit. Clements to 49ers- 8 years, $80 mil

RP · 03-03-2007, 01:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gonzo

Here is a small article on ESPN.com of some of the meetings players have arranged with certain teams.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2785239

Says that Leonard Davis (OT, Arizona) is seeing interest from at least three NFC East teams. I would think that one is the Giants because we lost both our LT's already.

Dominic Rhodes is also apparently supposed to meet with the Giants. I don't know. I don't think that we need a big name signing at RB. Unless they go after someone with the intent of making them a change of pace back. I want to see Brandon Jacobs carry the load.

Though Rhodes is not nearly as good as Tiki, i think he fits the Tiki mold really nicely. I'd be excited about that possible pick up if i were you. He's pretty good. You might see. I hope it dont happen. I really want Dominic back. Even if he runs me off the highway at 3am in the morning.

Brandon Jacobs is a fucking beast. Definetly a sleeper pick for me next year in ff.

RP · 03-03-2007, 01:21 AM

Thomas to the Pats. Nice pick up.

I dunno what the hell the 49ers were thinking paying that much for Nate Clements, he must have had a gun during negotiations. Though he is a top 5 cornerback.

03-02-2007, 01:33 PM	#219
MTH15 WHO DAT? NIGGA WE DAT! Posts: 2,867	My question is who will Joey Porter go to..The falcons need another solid OLB. We need an experienced receiver like Joe Horn.My predictions for a succesful season. Draft LaRon Landry, sign Joe Horn, Release Patrick Kerney, We need a powerback, thats why our redzone % sucked horribly,Release Allen Rossum,trade Warrick Dunn and Matt Schaub for high draft picks, Draft Tedd Ginn Jr. and put him at Kick Returner. And draft some Lineman 2nd-4th. Sign some in Free Agency. Last edited by MTH15; 03-02-2007 at 01:35 PM.

03-02-2007, 05:48 PM	#229
MTH15 WHO DAT? NIGGA WE DAT! Posts: 2,867	Lets see I say so many things on NFL Network today where do I start... Patrick Kerney, a TE and another guy visiting the Broncos Friday. I THINK the Falcons released Justin Griffith (STUPID) I know they released Ed Hartwell and Ike Reese.(Now we could put Keith Brooking back at Mike and try to get Joey Porter), Some FB is visiting us Friday. Jeff Garcia is visiting the Raiders And about that comment. I think we should trade Warrick Dunn because it would be useless to have 2 good backs and 1 big one.We need 1 starter and 1 power. Yes he is slowing down now. I was gonna say its the line but nope. Jerious Norwood busted so many good runs with the same line. Dont be afraid to release anybody. This is a business and btw I'm 15 my birthday is today. So yea that makes my points More news Najeh Davenpot resigned a 2 year contract with steelers Fred Smoot Visits redskins Fred Taylor signed extension with Jacksonville Damon Huard signs 3 year extension Just a few signings and shit Last edited by MTH15; 03-02-2007 at 05:52 PM.

03-02-2007, 08:05 PM	#235
Jesus Shuttlesworth Posts: 42,765	Just saw Patriots had TE Kyle Brady and RB Sammy Morris in Foxboro today...I don't really get bringing in Brady, taking a look at Morris makes a lot more sense to me tho BTW A lot of fullbacks are "no-name" but Ovie Mughelli is a real good fullback. You talk about how they have a weak redzone offense, adding a good blocking fullback helps a lot Last edited by Jesus Shuttlesworth; 03-02-2007 at 08:08 PM.

03-01-2007, 03:59 PM	#201
Jesus Shuttlesworth Posts: 42,765	lol you are such a homer like really really extreme Freeney is real good, but best DE in the NFL? I dunno about all that...5 sacks..Do you think he is the only D-End to ever draw a lot attention to himself? A 30 million dollar signing bonus is fucking ridiculous, and just saying its "debatable" makes me almost not even wanna read the rest of your posts in this thread.

03-01-2007, 04:30 PM	#202
Supreme Olajuwon You know that�s right Posts: 52,760	Dre Bly went to the Broncos

03-01-2007, 04:35 PM	#203
Supreme Olajuwon You know that�s right Posts: 52,760	Jamal Lewis and Joey Porter both got released. Lewis is supposed to resign I think.

03-01-2007, 04:37 PM	#204
Jesus Shuttlesworth Posts: 42,765	Porter got released too? Wow

03-01-2007, 04:38 PM	#205
Supreme Olajuwon You know that�s right Posts: 52,760	Steelers probably got tired of him being a bitch. That would be understandable since Porter is a huge bitch.

03-01-2007, 04:43 PM	#206
Supreme Olajuwon You know that�s right Posts: 52,760	If you're gonna make a case for someone being the best defensive end in the NFL, it'd probably help if that player was in, say, the top 50 in sacks this year. Freeney isn't btw

03-01-2007, 05:11 PM	#207
Jesus Shuttlesworth Posts: 42,765	Especially when you are a undersized pass rushing defensive end...

03-01-2007, 06:09 PM	#208
RP King of Love and Piss Posts: 62,992	your guy's ignorance towards football is amazing. You have no clue what the fuck you're talking about. You see 5 sacks and nothing else. You dont even take in consideration what happend all season long. More later..

03-01-2007, 06:44 PM	#209
Supreme Olajuwon You know that�s right Posts: 52,760	The best defensive end in the NFL is cleary Jonathan Fanene of the Cincinnati Bengals. I know what you're thinking. He didn't even play in 12 games this year but hear me out. What Fanene does that no one else in the NFL can do is he brings fear to the opposition from his position on the sideline. An opponent's offensive tackles see him on the sideline pacing like a tiger waiting to attack and they say to themselves "Oh shit! I don't wanna make the starting DE's look bad and make them get benched so Fanene comes in and gets 57 sacks. I better let the guys in beat me a couple times so they look like they're really good and they keep playing. Few! Glad that's over." You can't judge a player by stupid shit like statistics or games played. Anyone who knows anything about football knows that real skill is how well you can psyche out the other team's offensive line. If you don't agree with this flawless logic then it's clearly an indication of your ignorance.

03-01-2007, 08:18 PM	#211
Jesus Shuttlesworth Posts: 42,765	Joe Horn got cut too WHO DAT?!!!?!?!?!??!

03-01-2007, 11:39 PM	#212
Crimson Posts: 6,108	Cowboys should get Mike Doss. ANYONE to help out back there. And yea Jason Taylor > Freeney

03-01-2007, 11:54 PM	#213
MTH15 WHO DAT? NIGGA WE DAT! Posts: 2,867	OMFG, Petrino better sign Joe Horn or I'll cut him...JK but I dont know if we should...hes getting older and IDK how much he'll cost. Petrino says that Mike Vick will pass a lot more this year...We'll see. And is Bly a Safety or Corner

03-02-2007, 12:18 AM	#214
Jesus Shuttlesworth Posts: 42,765	Bly is a corner I also heard the samething about Vick having a limited number of carries this up coming season. I don't know, who the hell is Vick gonna throw to other then Crumpler?

03-02-2007, 12:37 AM	#215
MTH15 WHO DAT? NIGGA WE DAT! Posts: 2,867	Thats why we should trade like 50 people for the Lions pick and get Calvin Johnson. If we stay at 10th we can get Laron Landry though. They had a nice picture or him doing his vertical. I just hope Bobby doesn't waste a pick. Hmm I wish our salary cap was huge . I'd trade Matt Schaub, Warrick Dunn, 1st rounder, and IDK for the Lions pick. I really want Laron Landry though. O Well

03-02-2007, 12:43 AM	#216
Nervous Ferret love yourself Posts: 47,788	COME ONNNNNNNNNNNNNN Adalius Thomas

03-02-2007, 10:07 AM	#217
Gonzo feel the madness Posts: 11,360	Haha Freeney is not the best DE in the NFL. The guy is a great player but c'mon. I think Osi Umenyiora and Mike Strahan are good DE's, they both draw double teams all the time (when they're not injured.) Michael Strahan has been drawing double teams his whole career more or less, but I don't consider him the best in the league.

03-02-2007, 10:12 AM	#218
Gonzo feel the madness Posts: 11,360	Here is a small article on ESPN.com of some of the meetings players have arranged with certain teams. http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2785239 Says that Leonard Davis (OT, Arizona) is seeing interest from at least three NFC East teams. I would think that one is the Giants because we lost both our LT's already. Dominic Rhodes is also apparently supposed to meet with the Giants. I don't know. I don't think that we need a big name signing at RB. Unless they go after someone with the intent of making them a change of pace back. I want to see Brandon Jacobs carry the load.

03-02-2007, 02:19 PM	#220
Nervous Ferret love yourself Posts: 47,788	I realize you are 14 and are adament about your "ATL Falcons" but why on earth would they release Warrick Dunn?

03-02-2007, 02:25 PM	#221
McLegend Temporary Posts: 15,611	Because you are a raging homosexual

03-02-2007, 02:40 PM	#223
weather vane quesque fuck? Posts: 23,557	Jake the Snake retiring?

03-02-2007, 03:01 PM	#224
SammyG LAKE SHOW HOES Posts: 25,764	Yup. Plummer retiring because he doesn't wanna be traded to Tampa Bay.

03-02-2007, 03:06 PM	#225
FearedSanctity Von Killer Posts: 4,471	Incredibly weak. Just go so we can get our damn draft pick

03-02-2007, 03:24 PM	#227
ClockShot TPWW Fire Pro Champ Posts: 34,001	Also, Patriots cut RB Corey Dillion.

03-02-2007, 03:25 PM	#228
SammyG LAKE SHOW HOES Posts: 25,764	Niners, Pats going after Thomas.

03-02-2007, 06:04 PM	#230
Jesus Shuttlesworth Posts: 42,765	Heard Dominic Rhodes is planning on visiting with the Giants, makes a lot of sense..I think he would be a good fit there. Colts cut Brandon Stokley, can't say I'm surprised. They don't really need him

03-02-2007, 06:04 PM	#231
King Steve Guest Posts: n/a	DILLON

03-02-2007, 06:08 PM	#232
Jesus Shuttlesworth Posts: 42,765	Doesn't make a lot of sense to me why he asked to be cut, splitting time with Maroney seemed like a pretty good fit and I am pretty decent he was owed a decent amount of money in the up coming season. That's why I think he is gonna end up retiring, maybe not tho

03-02-2007, 07:33 PM	#233
SammyG LAKE SHOW HOES Posts: 25,764	rofl @ THE ATL FALCONS giving that fullback 18 million. Also, Rams sign Hall, pretty good signing.

03-02-2007, 08:02 PM	#234
MTH15 WHO DAT? NIGGA WE DAT! Posts: 2,867	Seriously 18 million to a fullback who is a no name to me. They could save some money and get Moss. They should've just kept Justin Griffith. And I'm waiting on Bobby to sign someone good. Theres 5 good people out there now and hes only managed to cut 3 players and give a no name a fat paycheck.

03-02-2007, 08:54 PM	#236
MTH15 WHO DAT? NIGGA WE DAT! Posts: 2,867	I see what your saying. I went to the website and they said a lot about him. He plugs up gaps and s a power runner is what it says. I still think 18 million with a 5 million dollar signing bonus is a lot.