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Old 11-11-2007, 04:19 PM   #201
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Fuck Arod, Reyes is 10 years younger and a better fit for their team, they lose him and who beats lead off and scores runs? Steal bases? That would be stupid, so they wil probably do it.
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Some news.

Yankees have made it clear they aren't trading Johnny Damon. However, the White Sox and the Braves had some interest in him.

Expect the Yankees to finally dump Carl Pavano during the winter.

Dragon already covered the Santana/Cano whispers.

In some interesting news, Carl Crawford is being brought up. Tampa Bay has zero interest in trading him but something big might change their minds. The Brewers wanna set something up with the Yankees to make a 3 team trade. Brewers getting Crawford, while Yanks get either Ben Sheets and or Chris Capuano.
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Ben Sheets for Crawford? I don't like that for Milwaukee. Sheets got hurt last year but he is so underrated and dominant when he is healthy. Bad bad bad,
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Old 11-11-2007, 07:08 PM   #205
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Fuck Arod, Reyes is 10 years younger and a better fit for their team, they lose him and who beats lead off and scores runs? Steal bases? That would be stupid, so they wil probably do it.
You trade Santana for Reyes. That is a good deal.
You pick up Arod for free agent. If you got a team would you want Reyes? or would you want Sanatana and Arod?
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Old 11-11-2007, 08:18 PM   #206
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You trade Santana for Reyes. That is a good deal.
You pick up Arod for free agent. If you got a team would you want Reyes? or would you want Sanatana and Arod?

See, I guess it depends on what kind of owner you are.

I would want reyes and Santana. I know thats not the scenario, but Reyes is not even in his prime, and he is arguably the best leadoff hitter in baseball, as well as best SS. he has 15 years of top notch play left. A rod does not even have the 10 he wants on a contract. Yes getting him now = big splash, but what he brings more than Reyes, minus what you lose in reyes, is not worth the replacement. never trade your best everyday player for a pitcher. I would keep reyes, and try and work for Santana some other way.

What happens if you trade Reyes and A Rod doesnt sign.

I dunno, maybe Im just stupid.
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If the Yankees trade Cano I will stop watching baseball.
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Old 11-12-2007, 10:10 AM   #208
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Reports that it would take a package around Cano to get Santana for the Yanks.

nope. fuck off with that.
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Yeah I agree, Cano is the only young everyday player we have that could be a star right now. Melky is a solid player but not even in Cano's league.
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I'm liking the Ben Sheets thing. depends on for who. Unfortunately though, I can see him as another tragedy to flounder on the Yankees.
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Not really sure on Sheets. Seems injured every single year and if we are giving up one of the big three pitchers (hopefully Kennedy, but that probably wouldn't even be enough) you'd want someone you can depend on.
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You know, I don't see the Yankees being big spenders or dealers this year. I see them resigning most of their free agents and then making maybe one move, but I see them going with what they got. I see them giving some of their younger guys a chance to prove their worth.
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Torii Hunter to the Royals or to the White Sox?

That seems to be what I'm reading as the top two contenders at least at the moment.
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Yeah, I kind of agree with you. A lot of people seem to think the Yankees will make a huge splash this offseason but I don't see it. They get mentioned in a ton of trades because they do have some holes to fill and have the prospects and money to do it if they wanted to.

A-Rod probably won't be back, I don't see them getting Cabrera and I don't see them getting Santana or any pitcher near his quality. They would probably get a 3rd baseman but not a big star or anything. As much as I'd like to have Santana or Cabrera it will cost some of Joba, Hughes and Cano and I don't want that to happen or do I see it happening.

They pretty much need Posada, Rivera and Pettitte back and then go from there. I think Pettitte is huge because if he doesn't come back you're looking at Wang, Joba, Hughes, Mussina and Kennedy. Which means needing to sign another pitcher or making a trade.
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I don't want Sheets. Always hurt. Plus he's an NL pitcher, meaning he won't pitch as well in the AL... especially in New York.

We might as well deal for Mark Prior.
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I hope the Yankees get both

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Pedroia and Ryan Braun are your rookie of the years. Tulowitzki should have won in the NL because Braun's horrible defense almost negates what he did with the bat, but whatever. He was the most productive hitter in MLB besides A-Rod which is pretty deserving.

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Dustin Pedroia received 24 of the 28 first-place votes on his way to being named AL Rookie of the Year on Monday.

He was listed second on the remaining ballots to total 132 points. Delmon Young finished in second place with three first-place votes and 56 points total. Eight of the 28 voters declined to place him on the ballots. We hope that was because he was a below average regular all year long and not because of his late-season attitude issues. Claiming the remaining first-place vote was Brian Bannister, who finished third with 36 points. Also receiving votes were Daisuke Matsuzaka (12 points), Reggie Willits (11), Hideki Okajima (3), Josh Fields (1) and Joakim Soria (1).

Ryan Braun edged Troy Tulowitzki 128 points to 126 to claim NL Rookie of the Year honors on Monday.

Both were very deserving. Braun posted historic numbers for a rookie after being recalled in late May, hitting .324/.370/.634 with 34 homers. Tulowitzki, on the other hand, was solid offensively from Opening Day on and played Gold Glove-quality defense at shortstop. The two finished with 128 and 126 points respectively. Braun was first on 17 ballots, second on 14 and third on one, while Tulo received the other 15 first-place votes and was listed second on the remaining ballots. Hunter Pence finished third with 15 points, topping Chris Young's 10. Kyle Kendrick, who received the lone top-two vote that didn't go to Braun or Tulo, totaled seven points.

Also the Tigers traded Omar Infante for Jacque Jones. Meh. The Cubs wanted to get rid of him for a while, I guess he's an okay bat and has a pretty good glove so he can help the Tigers. Infante is a decent enough backup, I guess.
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I read on my cell phone today that Posada is really close to resigining with the Yankees.

That's a plus. One down, two to go.

Mariners are on the prowl for starters.

Other than that and the Jaques Jones trade, it's a quiet day until something pops tonight.
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What the hell?

Tulo >>>>>>> Braun
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D-Backs are trying to resign Tony Clark. He's pretty much the only top 1st baseman out there right now. But negotiations are getting nowhere.

Asking price for Miguel Cabrera are 4 top prospects. Angels are the current frontrunners right now.

Tom Glavine is just about ready to get locked in with the Braves. They're gonna throw him a 1-year 8-9 mil. deal.
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Fuck that, legend. I love it how the pitcher has to bat too. That's real baseball.
That is correct, but it's a pretty big competitive advantage for the American league.

It doesn't make much sense anymore.
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Old 11-12-2007, 10:41 PM   #227
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I personally love the DH, I totally understand the argument against it, but I still really like it. Definitely not a 'baseball purist' or anything
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It's awsome.

Just for me personally the Phillies could have kept Jim Thome and Ryan Howard. Or we could get Barry Bonds this off season.

Sadly that can't happen.
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Old 11-12-2007, 10:52 PM   #229
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From mlb4u.com

Andy Pettitte, Al Reyes, Cesar Izturis, Jamey Wright, Jose Guillen, Jeff Conine and Craig Biggio filed for free agency on Monday.

Biggio and Conine have already announced their retirement and Pettitte is leaning toward retirement.

Reyes has a $1M option for 2008 on his contract that the Rays are expected to exercise before a Thursday deadline.

Izturis has a $5.85M option for 2008 that the Pirates are expected to decline by the end of the week.

According to our records, Tadahito Iguchi and Ramon Ortiz are the only players eligible for free agency that have yet to file official papers to become free agents.

Kenshin Kawakami and Naoyuki Shimizu are among Japanese players who may still file for free agency in Japan until Wednesday and become eligible to sign with MLB teams.

Starting at 9PM PST today, free agents may sign with any team.
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Old 11-12-2007, 11:15 PM   #230
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Looks like Posada has signed for 4 years/52 million

Definitely overpaying and giving one too many years but it had to be done. A couple years and he'll be a first-baseman/DH so not horrible. The upside of being in the AL I guess. The fact that we have a part-time pinch hitter in Giambi making 20 million next year really doesn't make 13M look too bad down the road

Now if Mariano gets signed soon it will restore some order to the Yankees.
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Old 11-13-2007, 02:34 AM   #231
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Great, great news.
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Old 11-13-2007, 07:45 AM   #232
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Yeah, really the only chance another team signs Posada is if they threw him like 5 years, $70 mil...which is obscene. Truth be told I'd prefer 2-3 years of Lo Duca over 5 years of Posada.

I just hope they get Lo Duca back now instead of going for fucking Torrealba or something
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Old 11-13-2007, 10:48 AM   #233
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great news. Going to be interesting in his 4th year. He'll be 40 by then. He'll go down with Dickey, Howard, Berra and Munson though...I dare even say as the best Yankee catcher ever.
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Old 11-13-2007, 10:56 AM   #234
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Posada is now the highest paid catcher in history
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Old 11-13-2007, 11:08 AM   #235
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The best thing he has going his way is that he didn't start catching full-time until he was in his later 20s so he hasn't even been catching for 10 years yet. Definitely saves some wear and tear compared to other catchers his age.
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Kinda wished Lowell would have signed with Boston before becoming a free agent. Hopefully this doesn't mean Cashman throws a bunch of money at him. Also, if they lose Lowell you know that means A-Rod would probably be their #1 choice. And I gotta be honest, a lineup with Ortiz-ARod-Manny in the middle of it is not something I want to see.
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Old 11-13-2007, 11:50 AM   #237
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I'm still uneasy about getting A-Rod. Only because of the negative attention he brings with him, and of course his inevitably enormous contract. If the Sox actually sign him I'll probably embrace it, though I prefer signing Lowell 100%.
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CC wins the Cy Young, wish Beckett would have won it but whatever. Would rather have a guy show up in the post season and not win the Cy Young then win it and no show the most important time of the year.
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Old 11-13-2007, 04:38 PM   #240
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Can not believe Beckett didn't win it, though.
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