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Old 12-10-2008, 10:45 PM   #1
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Now its a 12 man deal

Under terms of the deal, the Mets would get Putz, outfielder Jeremy Reed and reliever Sean Green from Seattle. The Mariners would receive reliever Aaron Heilman, outfielder Endy Chavez and first baseman Mike Carp from the Mets. They'd also get Franklin Gutierrez from the Indians and minor leaguers. The Indians would get reliever Joe Smith from the Mets and infielder Luis Valbuena from Seattle.
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The problem with Smith is that he really can only get righties out. Manuel has said he wants more transition guys in his bullpen who can get both lefties and righties out....hence why I feel that one of Feliciano or Schoeneweis will still be dealt.
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Done deal.

Welcome to Citi JJ Putz, Jeremy Reed and Sean Green
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Royals reach an agreement with Kyle Farnsworth. 2-years, $9.25 mil.

Yankees are talking with the Brewers about a trade for Mike Cameron.

Marlins release Catcher Matt Treanor.

Tigers aquire Edwin Jackson from the Rays for Matt Joyce

Current offers to Mark Teixeira:
Nationals: 8-years, $160 mil.
Orioles: 7-years, $140-$150 mil.
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Keith Law called Jeremy Reed a “a defensive specialist who makes a lot of contact but lacks power or patience” and then called Sean Green a “right-handed ground-ball machine”.

So it seems Omar traded Aaron Heilman, Endy Chavez, and Joe Smith for JJ Putz, Endy Chavez, and Joe Smith

Heilman for Putz 4tw
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Sean Green is the Gem in that deal guys. I'm totally floored that Seattle gave him up. You guys who didn't get to see much Mariner ball or Green, are in for a nice surprise. And Putz? Wow. one bad injury plagued season and they let him go. I expect a big bounce back from him. Not sure though about him as a set up man, he's a real deal closer still. Trade KRod!
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Sean Green is the Gem in that deal guys. I'm totally floored that Seattle gave him up. You guys who didn't get to see much Mariner ball or Green, are in for a nice surprise. And Putz? Wow. one bad injury plagued season and they let him go. I expect a big bounce back from him. Not sure though about him as a set up man, he's a real deal closer still. Trade KRod!
Shawn Green is still a yamaka wearing douchebag who sucks at life and baseball. Whoever let him pitch should probably be shot.

I know it's not the same guy.
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PPutz has been public about wanting to remain as a closer. Just read that the Meta talked to him about his new role as a set up man and that Putz was excited to go to New York. Chance to win it all seems to soothed his desires.
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Update.

Yankees get Mike Cameron and MAYBE Bill Hall
Brewers get Melky Cabrera.

Still getting worked on, but damn. I'd rather send Ian Kennedy over instead. Gonna miss the Melk Man if this does go through.
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Gonna miss Melky, but getting him away from Cano will get Cano focused again
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The Padres have had enough. According to yahoosports.com, the Padres told the Cubs they got until the end of the day to make this this Jake Peavy trade go through. All the other teams are set, but the Cubs don't wanna give up Jason Marquis. It's the only hiccup halting this trade.
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I want to see the Mets trade one of Feliciano/Schoeneweis, both of whom were great against lefties but got toasted beyond belief by righties...sign Everyday Eddie to provide a lefty serviceable against both sides of the plate...and sign Chad Cordero as a low risk/high reward.

K-Rod
Putz
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Feliciano/Schoeneweis
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Brian Stokes

Not only is that a much better bullpen then last year...if guys like Cordero and Sanchez regain their old form...christ. That bullpen could keep the Mets in the game.
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It's a day of dying deals.

The Yankee-Brewers Cameron for Cabrera trade is waning as the Yanks tried to get Milwaukee to take Igawa.

The Peavy to the Cubs deal is officially dead, Kevin Towers told reporters. Makes sense. The Cubs rotation would have been too dominant. Can't give those Cubs fans too much hope now, can we?
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Endy Chavez and Mike Carp was supposed to be our future 1B
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He was, but that was like 2 or 3 years ago. He's fallen off tremendously. And he was so horrid at 1B that they've had him learning the outfield despite there already being a logjam of OFs.

And I love Endy...but his playing time was decreasing to almost nothing. He didn't even play much at all last year with Alou and Church out. Jeremy Reed is supposed to be similar.
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Everybody is flying home, a few odds and ends going on right now.

Cameron/Cabrera deal is back on right now. They got past the speedbump T.N. mentioned a few couple post above.

Brian Cashman is en route or is already in Texas to talk to Andy Pettitte. The mission is simple: He'll offer Pettitte what could be the last rotation spot for $10 million. Take it, or leave it.
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HOLY SHIT Ramirez agrees to terms with the Royals

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Phillies agree to terms with OF Raul Ibanez on a 3-year deal. I've always like Ibanez, but he is 36 years old and will be 39 when his contract is up. I'm interested to see how the Phils' lineup will look at full strength with their 3-4-5 hitters all lefties.
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Burnett agrees to the Yanks' contract offer - 5 years, $82.5 million

My pick to be Carl Pavano revisited.
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Happy about getting CC. Contract is ridiculous but whatever, Yankees needed him badly. The opt out thing doesn't really bother me. Worst case scenario is he leaves after 3 years and the Yankees get him for his prime pitching years. Unless he completely bombs and the Yanks have him for 7 years, I guess that is the worst case scenario. Anyway, happy no matter what about that deal.

Not a fan of giving Burnett such a ridiculous offer though. Doubt it works out well but what can you do. Although a rotation of Sabathia-Wang-Burnett-Pettitte-Joba does look pretty great. Hopefully they get Pettitte back for this next season. That way Hughes starts in the minors and comes up when Burnett gets hurt. Then next year he can slide into the rotation when Pettitte's gone.
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I'm with both of ya. I too seeing Burnett being Carl Pavano 2.0, and we gave him way too much. Should have let Atlanta take him and work on Lowe and Sheets.

Mike Cameron talks have been put on the back burner at the moment.
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Burnett at 16.5 million a season ?
People thought the Jays were crazy when they gave him 10 million a season.
Not to sound bitter, but I do hope he's injury plagued.
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Burnett is going to make Carl Pavano look like a bargain in a couple years. But Ben Sheets isn't much of a better option. He has been more injury plagued than Burnett. I also think Sabathia is not going to like NY as much as he thinks he will and will opt out after 3 years.
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Mets trade Scott Shoeneweis to the D-Backs for Conor Robertson and cash considerations.
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Kerry Wood to the Indians - 2 years $20 million

I thought the K Rod deal was steep but holy shit. $10 mil a year for a closer with Wood's injury history? Yikes.
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Angels offer 8 years, $160 million for Tex. They are hoping he takes their offer, which is less than what the Nationals are offering, for the chance to compete.
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The Yankees are likely out of the Lowe sweepstakes, says Crasnick, considering the $243 million they've already committed to the rotation. By process of elimination, Crasnick names the Mets as frontrunners for Lowe's services.

I do like me some Derek Lowe, as long as the price comes down.
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Really like the Raul Ibanez deal the Phillies got done. Raul puts up quiet good numbers. He's going to be another big weapon for the Phillies.
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Yeah I would love to see what Ibanez can do on a good team. It's amazing that this guy didn't get a full season in as an every day player until he was 30.

But yeah great move the Phillies. They get a better, cheaper replacement for Burrell and the only sacrifice is a 4 year age difference.
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K Rod's already talking shit to the NL East:

"Of course, we're going to try to win the division. Of course, we're going to be the front-runner. Of course, we're going to be the team to beat."

This worked when Rollins said it a couple of years ago but then Rollins went and backed it up with an MVP award. Mets-Phillies is slowly becoming the 2nd best rivalry in baseball and you gotta love adding fuel to the fire this early.
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Yeah, I normally HATE it when players talk shit early on even after they blew it the previous year, but it seemed to fire the Phillies up when Rollins did it so we'll see.

K-Rod will probably wind up blowing his first save chance of the year against the Phillies Much like how Rollins caused the error to give the Mets the win in the first Mets/Phillies meeting of 07 after his comments.

2 more months until pitchers and catchers
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Phillies loading up on arms.

They re-sign Jamie Moyer, and sign Chan-Ho Park.

Yankees/Brewers talks for Mike Cameron resume today. They're still arguing about who's gonna pay who.

Brewers are close to re-signing Chris Capuano to a minor league deal.

Orioles and Cesar Izturis reach an agreement.

Rafael Furcal and A's are back in talks.
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According to Ken Rosenthal, the Braves and Rafael Furcal are closing in on a deal
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Crasnick says the preliminary agreement is done.

Welcome home, Rafey. Now we just have to figure out where to put you.
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Jamie Moyer, eh? Guess I have to post the mandatory pic:
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Fuckin Furcal. Hope you choke just like you did in the playoffs last year.
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Manny to the Angels...?
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Cubbies sign Joey Gathright.
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Yankees are reportedly about to go hard after Manny Ramirez and are willing to give him 3 years. It just never ends.
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