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It's gonna be one of the 3. MAYBE Jon Lester could be in the mix. I think he's the K king this season.
Everybody probably threw Greinke's, Sabathia's, and Halladay's name in a hat and picked one out and voted. All were stellar. NL........Think Cliff Lee will go 2 in a row for about 3 months work? |
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If CC couldn't then Cliff won't. It will be a Cardinal; Wainwright or Carpenter.
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Most likely Greinke is going to win based on how bad the Royals are and how he had something like 25% of the team's wins and for a while almost no run support so he had to pitch knowing a mistake could cost him the win or decision.
Halladay basically declined near the end of the season while Sabathia probably gets ignored due to how powerful the Yankees pitching staff/bullpen and bats were during the season. |
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Chris is AWESOME
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I've been wanting to post my ideas for a Met offseason for a while, but with having zero idea as to what this teams managment is actually going to do I figured what the hell I'm going to go nuts. If they wanted to go for the throat I think this offseason is doable, but in reality its a pipe dream.
My 2009/2010 Mets Offseason that will no chance in hell happen, but I'm going to post it anyway.... Offseason Attack 1. Sign John Lackey to a 5 year $90 million contract 2. Trade Ike Davis, F-Mart, Jenry Meija, Kirk Nieuwenhuis, and Jon Niese for Adrian Gonzalez 3. Trade Luis Castillo to the Dodgers for Juan Pierre 4. Sign Orlando Hudson to a 2 year 18 mil deal 5. Sign Jason Marquis to a 3 year 25 mil deal 6. Sign Rod Barajas to a 1 year deal 2 mil 2010 Starting Lineup 1. Jose Reyes SS 2. Juan Pierre LF 3. Carlos Beltran CF 4. Adrian Gonzalez 1B 5. David Wright 3B 6. Jeff Francouer RF 7. Orlando Hudson 2B 8. Barajas/Santos/Thole 9. Pitcher Starting Rotation 1. Johan Santana 2. John Lackey 3. Jason Marquis 4. Mike Pelfry 5. Oliver Perez The money figures are probably a lil off for Hudson, Marquis, and Barajas, but you get the picture. |
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Chris is AWESOME
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Thank you for the insight
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I don't know why, but I just can't see Adrian Gonzalez on the Mets. I think Delgado is going to be at first base next season.
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If Delgado is back, its the biggest mistake IMO. He is a 38 year old coming off hip surgery, its time for him to look to sign with an AL Club to be a DH because thats where it best suits him at this time.
Some Met fans are split on him, but for me, if you can't make a deal for a Gonzalez type to play first, then I say you go with Murphy at first, who I am a huge supporter of, and sign Holliday for left and get your power there. |
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http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4663979
Greinke is 2009 A.L. Cy Young winner, won by 54 points. |
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The first-place votes for Hernandez came from Chris Assenheimer of The Chronicle-Telegram in Elyria, Ohio, and Mark Feinsand of the Daily News In New York. Verlander's first-place vote was cast by Steve Kornacki of Booth Newspapers in Michigan.
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Come to think, have they ALWAYS revealed votes like that? They really ought to do that for the HOF when Greg Maddux inevitably misses being the first unanimous HOFer by 1 or 2 bitter voters.
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ERA wins this year. Great. Now if Kansas City can spend some cash...
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You know that’s right
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Greinke seemed like a no-brainer. As for NL Cy Young, I have no clue. I think Lincecum probably wins his 2nd because Carpenter didn't top 200 innings.
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Lincecum will be too busy getting high to recieve the award
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Whats worse is when that does occur, usually its some crazy or non-related reason that makes people question why they let them vote to begin with. For Example, the 1-2 people who didn't vote for Ricky Henderson was because Babe Ruth didn't get perfection and not because something was bad about Henderson.
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Blue Jays say that they will allow a contract negotiation window for Halladay. Seriously it's become exactly like the Santana sweepstakes, including the same three teams as the only real possible landing spots: Yanks, Sox, Mets.
Sox are focusing on Adrian Gonzalez, so that leaves the NY teams. And sources say the Yanks would be willing to part with Hughes. Him being the key piece to the deal already trumps anything the Mets can offer. |
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Unless the Mets offer to take on the dreadful Vernon Wells contract. But that wouldn't accomplish anything on the Met side because having that contract then having to pay upwards of 140 mil for Halladay it leaves no room for improvement elsewhere.
So yeah looks pretty bleak at the moment. |
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Holliday is still the big target. His power numbers will most likely trail off playing 81 games in Citi, but he's still a damn good hitter, plus his power will be useful everywhere else.
I doubt they'll get Lackey, so I really hope they can get Pineiro and possibly Marquis. I'm not big on Marquis, I think he was definitely a contract year guy...but he's better than what they have already. That frees up the ability to trade Perez for a bag of balls, or package Maine in a deal to improve elsewhere. Santana, Pineiro, Marquis, Pelfrey, Perez/Maine isn't a rotation that will set the world on fire, but it will certainly be more reliable than 2009. So glad FA signing starts Friday. |
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Formerly Fausto Carmona
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I'm thinking Joe Girardi and Jim Tracy will be managers of the year this afternoon.
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I'm pulling for Gardenhire, he's the one who really deserves it.
And I think Tracy takes it for the NL. |
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Gardenhire is definitely the most underrated manager in baseball. He's won the Central division 5 times in 8 years.
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Not to mention he has been the runner up for the manager of the year 4 times! MLB GIVE THE MAN HIS DUE!
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No Mauer for a month, losing pitchers, and losing Justin Morneau in the middle of your push towards a division title and the playoffs, and STILL managed to make it! I feel he got hosed. Jim tracy in the NL seemed like a no brainer. Taking over a team who looked to be heading no where and turning it around the way he did warrants the award. |
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Yeah Gardenhire got screwed. Nothing against Scioscia but there was little chance the Angels WEREN'T winning their division...I kinda feel they gave it to him because of Adenhart.
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Vito what you think about Wally getting the job in Brooklyn?
You think its a way of them saying we wanna see what you can do as a manager so we'll start off simple? Ultimately leading him to one day taking the Met job? Do you think it would have been smarter to have a guy with his fire and passion on the staff in some vein right now to light a fire under this teams ass,which we all have seen could be a good thing for this group of players. |
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I love Scioscia and I think he is the best manager in the game today, but I think Gardenhire should have gotten it. He faced a lot of adversity this year and still managed to make the playoffs. Not taking anything away from Scioscia, though.
Tracy was a given, I think. |
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I wish the Rockies would finish up the contract negotiations with Jim Tracy
I love that man |
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WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoo
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Apparently Bug Selig thought this year's playoffs went too slow so next year he's pushing for fewer days off in between series. Him and the current tv contracts (since 2007) are the main reason MLB playoffs started to inch more into November than usual.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4668918 |
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Playoffs definitely went too slow this year. Its pretty insane to have like 3 off days a month during the regular season then during the postseason having games only every other day.
Although that schedule helped the Yankees a great deal in winning the WS by only having to use 3 starters. |
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Free agency begins at midnight
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I just read that the Cardinals think Holliday is only an average defender and may look to upgrade starting pitching this offseason.
I think their #1 priority should be to sign Holliday to protect Pujols in the lineup. He is really not bad in the outfield, and I think their view of him is skewed because of the pop up he dropped in the playoffs. |
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Adam Wainwright should win the Cy Young this year. I think he was the best pitcher in the NL this year. Lincecum a close second and Carpenter a close 3rd.
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![]() Nice, they are gonna be wearing these cream-colored throwbacks pretty regularly next year. I like it. Unfortunately though, they are gonna do away with the current white with blue pinstriped jersey they have, which is a shame. Good to know that now though before I ordered one. Would prefer to have chucked out the black uniforms instead. I don't hate them as much as most Mets fans but I'd much sooner see those go than the white and blue pinstripes. |
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I guess Jason Bay said no to a 4 year 60 million dollar deal with Boston and will test free agency
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Back to Back Cy Young awards for Mr. Tim Lincecum
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